I so desperately wanted a point from Kovalainen! I'm getting really sick of the lack of progress from the new teams, they're still over a second off the midfielders, even if Kovalainen did beat both the Saubers. Kobayashi and Buemi are getting really strong now, nice to see Alguersuari beating Rosberg, and of course, Vettel wins are always nice.![]()
I heard the announcers on speed TV talking about the constructors championship but didn't really catch what they meant it was.... Can someone explain to me what that is?
I think both McLaren and Red Bull made mistakes though. Hamilton was out a lap or two too long on those super softs. Then when Hamilton does pit, Webber comes in right with him. Maybe costed Webber 2nd place.
YellowG1Did we ever get an explanation as to why Webber pitted when he did? I'm assuming he must've had some issue (because otherwise it would've an inexplicable move), as he might've even been able to leapfrog Vettel at that point in time.
Also, kind of a listless race by Button. Most people here consider him the 2nd best driver on the grid so I'm wondering where his pace went on race day... Still, six podiums in a row is a great run.
Also, kind of a listless race by Button. Most people here consider him the 2nd best driver on the grid so I'm wondering where his pace went on race day... Still, six podiums in a row is a great run.
I don't think Alg was ever in trouble, he outperformed Buemi this year and last, good race by him.
I heard the announcers on speed TV talking about the constructors championship but didn't really catch what they meant it was.... Can someone explain to me what that is?
I think a lot of people will re-evaluate 2009 after Button's performances this year. It's become increasingly apparent that Button's lacklustre races in the second half of the season were a result of Brawn simply running out of money.I used to be a bit of a Button detractor after he won his WDC in 09' (in what I thought was a bit of underwhelming performance, particularly in the latter part of the season), but this year he has thoroughly proven to me just how good of a all around driver he has become, especially when he feels comfortable with the car.
First of all, let me just say that I personally rate Button very highly. I used to be a bit of a Button detractor after he won his WDC in 09' (in what I thought was a bit of underwhelming performance, particularly in the latter part of the season), but this year he has thoroughly proven to me just how good of a all around driver he has become, especially when he feels comfortable with the car. He's certainly a worthy and formidible WDC contender in my book now...even if he does lack a bit of that imgrassable pure pace that say Vettel/Hamilton have, which can make all the difference in the world if you're out at the very front ,in the very best car
Considering Button finished just behind the Hammy train in today's race, I think he did just fine really. Red Bull seemed to have the stronger car on race day, so asking much more from Button wasn't really all that realistic.
I feel that some people & the media tend to be too come and go on how they rate/praise drivers, and what they expect from them. When Hamilton is on his game and doesn't make mistakes, the general concesous is that he (still) is the slightly quicker driver on pure pace (particularly when tire deg. isn't an issue)....meaning he will generally finish ahead of Button (like today and on many other occasian in their ~ 2 year tenureship) as long as he keeps his neck out of trouble. With that said, Hamilton doesn't seem to be quite as strong as Button in other areas (particularly in staying out of trouble with cars around him and staying cool when under pressure) and certainly hasn't been as consistant as Button has in terms of extracting the maximum result possible in the last few races...which is something (just a few bad races) I feel has jaded many peoples perspective of what the two drivers are capable of.
It must be remembered that a lot of drivers have their ups and downs throughout their career, and at the moment Lewis is certainly at a very low point in terms of his on track driving, luck, and general content/happiness, while Button is certainly at the highest point of his career in terms of how well he is driving...so a lot people seem to get stuck in the moment and only notice both extremes. I certainly feel that there will come a point (likely quite soon) where Lewis will pick himself up off the ground (today was certainly a decent start), and we will be left with a wiser, more level headed individual, with all of the pace and talent that we know he has always had. Once that happens, and Hamilton can get some of his consistancy back and more, Button will certainly have his hands full.
FWIW, I just read on Autosport that both McLaren cars somehow lost 10% of their front downforce on race day, according to Whitmarsh. Would explain their relative lack of pace compared to qualifying.
No. Buemi has had the edge on Jaime most of the time.
Not really. Despite Buemi outscoring Alguersuari last season, a lot of people agreed Jaime had more noteworthy performances. Buemi had a better start to the season, but Jaime has turned that around.
I genuinely believe that if one of the Toro Rosso drivers has to make way for Ricciardo or Vergne next season, Buemi will be the one out of a job unless he can pull off something spectacular. Alguersuari's performance in Korea was excellent and was the kind of performance the likes of Franz Tost and Dietrich Mateschitz will remember when making a decision.
The fact that Ricciardo is now beating Liuzzi is a good sign. Are they really overrated, or are you just underrating them?
Yeah, i think Button did fine as he caught up with the Webber/Hamilton group. I think he just hadn't the tires left to do any more once he got there (the same as Alonso).