2013 Mustang GT500: Twin Turbo or Intercooled S/C?

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http://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/09/ford-shelby-gt600-gets-some-intercooler-love/

Our army of spy photographers managed to snap a few photos of a Ford Shelby GT500 strutting a new intercooler. If you take a close look, you can see piping through the upper and lower grille as well as the vehicle's mocked-up fog light openings. Chances are the new equipment is merely part of a scheme to make the vehicle's supercharger a little more efficient, though it's entirely possible that the big bad snake is rocking something exciting under its hood. Something like a twin turbocharged V8.
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Don't believe so. They have the aluminum 5.4 in there now, I see no reason to switch.

Also note the Boss 302 style Recaro seats and roll cage. (cage could just be for high-speed testing)
 
R1600Turbo
Don't believe so. They have the aluminum 5.4 in there now, I see no reason to switch.
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Because the 5.0 is better in every measurable way, and because Ford has already started dumping the 5.4 anyways.


Its not a question of "are they" so much as a question of "are they doing it for 2013," because that would easily explain the plumbing differences seen in the photo.
 
As long as the GT500 doesn't weigh as much as a house in the front and actually has a Roush-like suspension setup it should be a monster. The 5.0 in twin turbo form would be ungodly fast on a track.
 
Why would they do all of this for the last model year? I'm guessing it's not for the GT500, but for some other performance Mustang and they are using the GT500's chassis w/SVTpp. Possibly a Boss light?
 
A twin turbo engine would be cool, but they'd have to go through a weight reduction regimen because of it. They tend to add a few pounds to the front end.
 
Keef
A twin turbo engine would be cool, but they'd have to go through a weight reduction regimen because of it. They tend to add a few pounds to the front end.
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No more than a supercharger, heat exchanger, water tank, and intercooler, as seen on the current models. My bet is two turbos (sized well on the small side seeing the EcoBoost V6 turbo sizing) and a fairly large air-to-air intercooler would be no heavier than the current setup .
 
A twin turbo system won't add much (if any) weight if it were to replace the current roots style blower. With a TT setup the weight is also a bit lower than with the roots blower.
 
Rotary Junkie
No more than a supercharger, heat exchanger, water tank, and intercooler, as seen on the current models. My bet is two turbos (sized well on the small side seeing the EcoBoost V6 turbo sizing) and a fairly large air-to-air intercooler would be no heavier than the current setup .
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Well that's a bit more complex than I thought it was. Apparently a blower with some coolant passages isn't good enough. :p
 
Yes, as i said before, more and more manufactors put turbo on their motors, thats good because i like boost.
 
There's some photos out there with Ford engineers posing with a 5.8L aluminum "BOSS" block like a father taking his 1st pic w/a baby.

Chances are; it's either a crate engine (unlikely) or it's a bigger/badder 5.0L. I don't see a reason why they'd 'turbocharge' that engine. They have great reliability & a long history with supercharging. The packaging & cost would likely be lower too with a S/C.
 
Tack on a few changes from previous model and bam! it's now a model not for the upcoming year, but the year after that.
 
AOS-
Tack on a few changes from previous model and bam! it's now a model not for the upcoming year, but the year after that.
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This reads like it's supposed to be an insult to Ford. I could be wrong. But in the event that I'm not, it is highly unfounded because what you described is a practice of all manufacturers. Most models have what, a 6 year lifespan? Most are refreshed often and have new features added all the time.
 
Yes, everyone does it, therefore ford does it to, therefore what he said is true.
 
I just don't quite understand why manufacturers can't just tack on a bigger list of improvements, and not list it off as a model 4 decades later from today.

The year thing I'm not really bugged about tbh, it's just that I personally feel there can generally be more improvements made to a car until you can officially declare it to be a "new and improved" product.
 
Better is better.

Externally very little changed from '10 to '11. Mechanically they're very different beasts. It's an improved version of the current vehicle, I don't see your issue.
 
AOS-
I just don't quite understand why manufacturers can't just tack on a bigger list of improvements, and not list it off as a model 4 decades later from today.
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Research and development cost money. Before you can roll out a new product, you have to make a return on your original investment. Sometimes the market takes a while to voice their desired improvements, and sometimes companies (in any industry) delay proposed improvements so they can ride the wave to decent sales for that little bit of extra income, before they phase out a product. The longer you can go without changing anything, the better. Only problem is that the market constantly demands more, and as competitors begin to respond, you have to follow suit or risk getting left behind and losing your market share.

Your question has nothing to do with cars, but everything to do with understanding how business works.
 
No. They put the beam in the back of the current Mustangs because people were complaining about axle hop in Terminator Cobras. It would be counterproductive to put an IRS in the Shelby when a lot of the owners would just take it back out (and the rest of them wouldn't care either way).
 
mPWRD
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/10/2014-ford-mustang-to-get-irs-be-smaller-lighter-in-preparation/

Apparently, they're introducing independent suspension for the 2014 Mustang (about time). Reckon it'll make it into the Shelby?
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They have been saying IRS in mustangs for years now and hasn't happened.
I remember reading that about the previous generations. They always make up a lie about the IRS costing more or this or that. If it finally happens, great, but if it's just another rumormill wish list, tsk tsk.
 
Hmm RHD Mustang coming up (according to that link), they say:

"That means that the muscle car will boast a right-hand drive interpretation for the first time in its history"

Thats not exactly true, for a couple years we (Australia) got official Ford sold Mustangs RHD right out of the dealer, however they were not built RHD in the factory but IIRC converted by a Ford contractor afterwards then sold in select dealers.
 
Considering that they're trying to make it a "world car", IRS is necessary in order to steal market share from Nissan Z's and the like. Which makes me wonder why they don't do a sort of trial run on the relatively low-volume GT500. Roush already has a setup for this-generation Mustang, so why don't they just adapt it?
 

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