2013 NASCAR Thread

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I already planned too one Gordon lost and then make a signature to inform all of GTPlanet that he lost his bet and is sore loser.
Which means you're still giving him the attention he craves.

All of you, drop it, ignore him and move on already.
 
After 2 Chase races, where are all of the controversial Chasers (39, 24, 15, 22) at in the standings? Where is Truex at? I'm really curious how Truex will continue to match up if the Chasers didn't get a huge point boost.
 
DaveTheStalker
After 2 Chase races, where are all of the controversial Chasers (39, 24, 15, 22) at in the standings? Where is Truex at? I'm really curious how Truex will continue to match up if the Chasers didn't get a huge point boost.

It's going to be pretty much as we expected all year anyway. They will be a non factor in general.
 
You mean when Kasey Kahne sprays the contents of a Fire Extinguisher on someone else (because they misunderstood the word firesuit)

Oh whatever. I thought Kasey was the one getting sprayed at, because I recall the guy spraying the extinguisher calling him by name as soon as he arrived. :dopey:
 
Oh whatever. I thought Kasey was the one getting sprayed at, because I recall the guy spraying the extinguisher calling him by name as soon as he arrived. :dopey:




Anyhow, came across this interesting article. Why is it relevant to this thread? Because of this interesting part:

Senior figures inside NASCAR have indicated that it too may consider a DTM style car for the Generation Sprint Cup car, as exclusively revealed in Stockcar Engineering magazine.
 
Why the heck do we need a DTM style car? If we are going to take a look at ANY other series to base the next car off or upgrade, look at the cousins from AU with V8 Supercar. Cars are similar in build quality, design ideas and few others without live telemetry which eh isn't needed either.

I never ever fully understand why they keep going in wrong directions, maybe they need to talk to Kurt Busch, Marcos Ambrose, Owen Kelly about building a new car!

Sorry it just hit a nerve. I really really need to buy the V8 for iracing to test it since it's the older build with solid axle. I just think the front grills will keep engines in right temps but doesn't allow the 2 car tango with how they line up, the wing works fine but even a spoiler can be used. Maybe I'm completely wrong but am I only one that thinks that's what they should have looked at for Gen 6?
 
Got oil?

Valvoline returns to Hendrick after finalizing a multi-year sponsorship agreement that will kick off next season.

Smith's #7 for Dover.
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Larson's #32 for Dover.
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Why the heck do we need a DTM style car? If we are going to take a look at ANY other series to base the next car off or upgrade, look at the cousins from AU with V8 Supercar. Cars are similar in build quality, design ideas and few others without live telemetry which eh isn't needed either.

I never ever fully understand why they keep going in wrong directions, maybe they need to talk to Kurt Busch, Marcos Ambrose, Owen Kelly about building a new car!

Sorry it just hit a nerve. I really really need to buy the V8 for iracing to test it since it's the older build with solid axle. I just think the front grills will keep engines in right temps but doesn't allow the 2 car tango with how they line up, the wing works fine but even a spoiler can be used. Maybe I'm completely wrong but am I only one that thinks that's what they should have looked at for Gen 6?

Because watching a pack of high-tech, ultra expensive German/Japanese cars with fancy but fragile carbon-fibre aero bits going around Talladega would be hilariously awesome.
 
I think someone got their information crossed up.

The France family is working on the deal for the 2015 US based DTM series. I'm pretty sure that's what the DTM style car would be for...
 
What happens to Quaker State?

It's pretty obvious that QS will not return to HMS. This ends a "partnership" of 18 years!


Marty Smith ‏@MartySmithESPN
SHR announces Jimmy John's to sponsor Harv's No. 4 Chevy in 12 races beginning in 2014, including Brickyard 400.

Not surprised by that one.

On Monday night it was reported by Jim Utter with The Charlotte Observer that Kurt Busch will be driving the #41 for Stewart-Haas Racing in 2014.

Kurt Busch made a lot of noise off the track recently when rumors first broke that he would be heading to Stewart-Haas Racing in 2014. After Stewart-Haas Racing confirmed that Kurt Busch indeed would be racing a 4th car for the team, the main question remained; what number will Kurt drive in 2014?

Monday evening a number of sources confirmed to The Charlotte Observer that Kurt Busch will be driving the #41 next year for Stewart-Haas Racing.

As for a sponsor, last month it was announced that Haas Automation (owned by SHR co-owner Gene Haas) would sponsor Kurt Busch in 2014.

With the addition of the #41, Stewart-Haas Racing’s 2014 car/driver lineup includes the #4 of Kevin Harvick, #10 of Danica Patrick, #14 of Tony Stewart and #41 of Kurt Busch.
 
Because kids want bodykits, yo.

Let's give DTM the respect it deserves.

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Which means you're still giving him the attention he craves.

All of you, drop it, ignore him and move on already.

Ironic since you were just as big of a proponent against him. I understand where you are coming from but others do the same as me, they just aren't going to vast lengths to get rid of a troll. Like I said I'll ignore him a a few weeks times.
 
"There is nothing More American then Wonderbread and NASCAR"


:lol:
 

Where's Ricky Bobby? :lol: :lol:
From Jayski:
Wonder bread returns; to sponsor a NASCAR team? Wonder, Merita, Home Pride and Butternut will return to the fresh bread aisle via Flowers Foods, Inc.s direct-store delivery footprint beginning in late September and into October, Allen Shiver, president and chief executive officer of the Thomasville, Ga.-based baking company told participants at the Barclays Back-to-School Conference held Sept. 3 in Boston. Flowers completed the acquisition of the bread brands from the former Hostess Brands, Inc. in late July, and since that time Mr. Shiver said Flowers has discussed its roll-out plans with trade customers, who have been supportive of Flowers strategy. Mr. Shiver said Flowers plans to tie the relaunch of Wonder to a NASCAR event. In addition to having a car compete in the races, Flowers plans to use creative marketing to connect the Wonder brand to NASCAR fans, Mr. Shiver said. Flowers also plans to use the Wonder brand to partner with the Childrens Miracle Network to help children's hospitals. Under the theme Wonders back and Wonder gives back, Flowers has committed to give 5c for every loaf of Wonder Classic and Wonder Whole Grain White that is sold from Oct. 1 through the end of 2013 to the cause.(Food Business News) AND On Sept. 23, Wonder breads and buns began returning to store shelves within Flowers Foods' fresh delivery territory in the East, South, Southwest, and California.(Wonderbread Facebook)(9-25-2013)

A few schemes for Dover:
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And speaking about NASCAR "Movies"....
Far from the roar of a race track, one can hear a pin drop in the spacious 30th floor Century City office of NASCAR Vice President Zane Stoddard, which has a spectacular high-rise view of nearby Hollywood.

On this day Stoddard has a conference with Hollywood producer Neal Edelstein, whose films have included dramas ("Mulholland Drive"), mysteries ("The Ring") and horror movies ("Haunting Melissa").

Edelstein wants to make a movie centered on a NASCAR driver, an idea pitched to him by Stoddard. And they're meeting to discuss how Universal Pictures, which agreed to finance the movie's early development, views the initial script.

Why a NASCAR-related film? There's been an "explosion of action sports in this country," Edelstein says during a break. "Well, the original action sport is NASCAR. It has great texture for movies."

The film is one of several projects being pursued by Stoddard and his nine-person NASCAR Entertainment Marketing staff to infiltrate pop culture with everything NASCAR in order to boost stock-car racing's sagging popularity. They also arrange driver cameos on television shows, develop new NASCAR-themed programs for TV and online outlets and bring celebrities to NASCAR races.

"We're creating entry points to our sport for new fans who may not necessarily … go looking for a race," said Stoddard, 44, who joined NASCAR in 2010 after several years in a similar post with the NBA.

Stoddard's efforts are needed because NASCAR's popularity, though still among the highest in U.S. sports, has dropped from its peak in 2004-08. Tracks aren't filling every seat for the sport's premier 36-race Sprint Cup Series as they once did. And while 4 million to 8 million people still watch Cup races each weekend, NASCAR TV ratings are down 8% to 18% from five years ago, depending on the race and the TV carrier (NASCAR races are divided among Fox, ESPN and TNT).

That has required NASCAR Entertainment to, well, shift gears. The local office, opened in 2000, initially focused mostly on movies and simply exploited the huge attention then paid to the sport. One big score was the film "Talladega Nights" in 2006, which supposedly got the green light with no more of a premise than "Will Ferrell as a NASCAR driver."

But NASCAR knows that to now reignite its growth, it needs to widen its fan base and do so via the different ways entertainment is now consumed.

Currently, 83% of the sport's fans are over age 29 and 78% are white, according to Scarborough Research in New York. So Stoddard's office is pushing to get NASCAR in front of younger and multicultural audiences.

NASCAR Entertainment spearheaded a reality show about a teen-age NASCAR driver, called "Flat Out," that debuted last week on AOL's On Network website. A NASCAR-themed telenovela, "Arranque de Pasion," aired on Spanish-language Univision and is available on Univision's website as part of NASCAR's bid to gain a larger Latino following.

At the Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards in Los Angeles this year, the award for favorite female athlete went to NASCAR driver Danica Patrick, and she didn't win by chance. NASCAR Entertainment pitched her to Nickelodeon as a nominee. Earlier this year NASCAR driver Joey Logano appeared on Cartoon Network's Hall of Games Awards show and driver Trevor Bayne was a presenter on the Radio Disney Music Awards.

At the same time, NASCAR is adapting to new ways programs are viewed on computers, smartphones and other digital devices, programs that often are shorter than the conventional one hour- or 30-minute TV shows.

Case in point: "Flat Out," a reality show that follows driver Dylan Kwasniewski, 18, who has excelled in NASCAR's minor leagues.

NASCAR teamed with Vuguru, a studio founded by former Walt Disney Co. chief Michael Eisner, to develop "Flat Out" as an online program and sold it to AOL Inc. Tentative plans call for 10 to 15 episodes of about five minutes each.

"The younger audience is very used to watching short-form video whenever they want, wherever they are," Vuguru Chief Executive Larry Tanz said.

But NASCAR isn't selling just racing with "Flat Out." It's mainly selling Kwasniewski's story, which tracks how he's handling his life and fledgling career after his father, a Las Vegas hotel executive, committed suicide in 2010.

Gabriel Lewis, head of AOL Studios, said that while NASCAR "as a brand carries weight," ultimately "Dylan's story is really what sold us."

Stoddard said that's often true of all of NASCAR's pitches. "You've got to have great stories" to get programs made in Hollywood, he said. "It's not enough to just show up and say, 'We're NASCAR, we've got tens of millions of fans.'"

The NASCAR-themed "Arranque de Pasion" stars acclaimed Mexican actress Kate del Castillo. To help promote the show, NASCAR arranged for Del Castillo to be the honorary starter at NASCAR's Sprint Cup Series race at Auto Club Speedway in Fontana last March.

Such efforts are critical to drawing more Latinos to NASCAR, said Auto Club Speedway President Gillian Zucker, who has aggressively pursued her own diversity initiatives.

While Latinos make up 9% of NASCAR's overall fan base, they're 38% of those attending Zucker's races. Programs such as the telenovela are "all about piquing [Latino fans'] interest" in NASCAR, she said.

The bottom line, of course, is whether the entertainment push helps lift NASCAR's national attendance and TV ratings, and Stoddard said it's too early to tell.

NASCAR Entertainment's strategy is part of a five-year plan NASCAR announced in 2011 to grow the sport. "When we get to the end of that five years," Stoddard said, "we will have a very clear measurement of where we are."

And we can't forget about Newman :lol:
@JeffGluck on Twitter:
Quicken Loans is going with Newman to the #31 for 12 races next season.
 
Remove the wing for a spoiler, and I want something like this for 2015 or w/e the rumors are for.

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Why is everything getting a (usually crap) movie? Is Hollywood really that desperate?

That Camaro...The roll-cage looks a bit small for the body, or vise-versa. Still, I'd go to watch it run.
 
Why is everything getting a (usually crap) movie? Is Hollywood really that desperate?

If you've noticed the last five years, they've been desperate.
 
If NASCAR is expecting these clowns to do a Ron Howard film except cheaper, it's gong to end up making NASCAR look worse than it already does. Days Of Thunder, Stroker Ace err Six Pack, Ricky Bobby, this next one, ugh. Maybe Ben Aflac can ruin NASCAR too!

It doesn't matter how much hype NASCAR builds up for a race, once that green flag drops, you're camping on your couch for 3-4 or even 5 hours of going around in circles. Cup races are too long to grab mass appeal like they hope to. I'm sorry, kids who have games in various forms at their fingertips and 24 hours of cartoons, plus DVR'd episodes of Spongebob don't want to watch 3 hours of a camera focused on a couple of cars at a time that aren't really doing much. Yes, crashes are exciting, unfortunately, people get hurt in crashes. Are we "aren't supposed to" like them. Compared to short track Saturday night, a 600 mile race at Charlotte is monotonous to put it mildly. Even Enduro Night at the local short track got boring after the field stretched out and drivers are OBVIOUSLY logging laps.

That's it, THAT is the problem in Cup races, logging laps!!! And the inconsistent enforcement of rules, and the boring and irrelevant qualifying ritual. NASCAR should adopt F1's qualifying method. It has a PURPOSE! "But what if they wreck in qualifying?" Too bad, stop having unskilled labor in your sport, Jack! Or take up crocheting doilies.
 
NASCAR won't make any big changes for 10 years. The France Family has been doing things for 65 years and all they see is a loyal fan base. In 10 years when the ratings are dead and it's time to make a new contract with sports networks probably under new leadership and without a desperate need of programming, and with a depleted fan base due to old age primarily, maybe they'll do something then.
 
If NASCAR is expecting these clowns to do a Ron Howard film except cheaper, it's gong to end up making NASCAR look worse than it already does. Days Of Thunder, Stroker Ace err Six Pack, Ricky Bobby, this next one, ugh. Maybe Ben Aflac can ruin NASCAR too!

It doesn't matter how much hype NASCAR builds up for a race, once that green flag drops, you're camping on your couch for 3-4 or even 5 hours of going around in circles. Cup races are too long to grab mass appeal like they hope to. I'm sorry, kids who have games in various forms at their fingertips and 24 hours of cartoons, plus DVR'd episodes of Spongebob don't want to watch 3 hours of a camera focused on a couple of cars at a time that aren't really doing much. Yes, crashes are exciting, unfortunately, people get hurt in crashes. Are we "aren't supposed to" like them. Compared to short track Saturday night, a 600 mile race at Charlotte is monotonous to put it mildly. Even Enduro Night at the local short track got boring after the field stretched out and drivers are OBVIOUSLY logging laps.

That's it, THAT is the problem in Cup races, logging laps!!! And the inconsistent enforcement of rules, and the boring and irrelevant qualifying ritual. NASCAR should adopt F1's qualifying method. It has a PURPOSE! "But what if they wreck in qualifying?" Too bad, stop having unskilled labor in your sport, Jack! Or take up crocheting doilies.

I really wish Nascar would limit cars to ONE per weekend. If you mess it up, better know how to fix it before the race not bring in a backup because it got into the wall and messed up the sponsors.

Qualifying means very little for these drivers on most levels as you have 5 pit stops to change everything you can, most other series might have 2-3 at most but no huge swings. It's you make do with what you got, and better either qualify well or know how to move people to make gains.

I can't remember the last time I watched a Cup race from flag to flag that I didn't end up doing other stuff while it was on from sim racing to just taking a nap for little bit. NO WAY a major racing series outside of enduro based events like LeMans, Rolex, etc should a nap ever be an option. Bathurst is around 6 hours or so, I can watch that flag to flag because it's never just logging laps, it's 100% the whole race for most part and you pay for a mistake. I still think Nascar needs to take a big look at the cars and how they are built (no real way to take a body panel off at the track and replace with a new one with just few bolts or welds).

Most of the world laughs at Nascar because of how behind the times they are, I understand the no telemetry but it's said it took til recent years to get EFI or we can't make turn a basic street car into a race car while other series sure can do it pretty well!


NASCAR won't make any big changes for 10 years. The France Family has been doing things for 65 years and all they see is a loyal fan base. In 10 years when the ratings are dead and it's time to make a new contract with sports networks probably under new leadership and without a desperate need of programming, and with a depleted fan base due to old age primarily, maybe they'll do something then.

They are too blind to see how bad things have gotten to be honest because people keep thinking it will be different, they still go to races, watch on tv or just buy things. I don't hate on the series as a whole but overall I think they do need to try some different ideas to bring the fans back. Cheaper tickets or more deals, food at the track could stand to not be $5 for soda or burger either since this is a blue collar sport itself, I could go on and on.

If I had to price tickets on average for top 3 series. Here is how I would price it along with food.

Trucks - General seating $15 bucks, Premium seating (like middle or up a little higher, etc) $25.
Nationwide - $25/$35
Cup - General Admission or cheap seats is either turn 2/3/backstretch or way up high in the turns) $30-35 and goes up from there to about $90 for best seats at any track.

The Cup is the least one I'm worried about and would be played with because people come to that alot more often.

Food since most tracks offers the same crap.

Soda/Water - $2-3 bucks for 20 oz
Burger- $3 bucks
Hotdog - $2
Fries - $2
Beer - $5
Nachos - $4 for basic $5 for loaded
Corndog - $3
Peanuts - $3

You get my drift on food prices. I went to RallyCross this weekend at the Dirt Track at Charlotte by myself. I spent $33 bucks just on ticket/parking/drink which was $25/$5/$3 but even that was a little much, I didn't complain though either as I had a great time and was there from about 1pm-7pm
 
I don't see anything wrong with qualifying as it is now.

However I think it would be more interesting to do away with qualifying and set the field (and pit selections) by inverting the points positions.

(Points leader starts dead last and gets last pit stall available, and so on.)
 
When we have high level drivers coming from last to first, that's a clear indicator qualifying is useless. I agree, get rid of it.
 
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