2013 NASCAR Thread

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Didn't he win at Indy and kill a bird on the track while doing his burnout? Or was that Burton?

He won Indy two or three years ago when he won Daytona (same year I think) and I think he won the race we are watching right now that same year as well.

2010 was his last flash in the pan. The bird I don't know about though.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

He won Indy two or three years ago when he won Daytona (same year I think) and I think he won the race we are watching right now that same year as well. 2010 was his last flash in the pan. The bird I don't know about though.

I remember birds being on the track and me Facebooking the picture (TV shot) with a comment about PETA would be showing up and protesting NASCAR races.

 

[The Bman]

Larson is down a cylinder and he's still ahead of many Cup regulars.

...and the engine blew up. Why does this stuff always happen to lesser drivers whenever they have great runs? 👎

EDIT: Jimmie Johnson is so good he even laps himself.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

Larson is down a cylinder and he's still ahead of many Cup regulars. ...and the engine blew up. Why does this stuff always happen to lesser drivers whenever they have great runs? 👎 EDIT: Jimmie Johnson is so good he even laps himself.

The 15 is about to blow up too.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Look! An actual battle for the lead!

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Looks like Brad got it

 

[ICEYOU]

Good for BK!

 

[TheDabbinDave]

No change in the top 5, this race was meaningless.

Qualifying? "I didn't qualify well", Brad.

We had a cookout over at our Pastor's house tonight. He asked me, "who's gonna win The Chase?" My simple honest answer was Jimmie. Sure Kenseth has a chance. Of course I'm rooting for Kyle. 5 consecutive championships in the last 7 years is a BIG DEAL. Jimmie & Chad are a proven winning team.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

No change in the top 5, this race was meaningless.

Qualifying? "I didn't qualify well", Brad.

We had a cookout over at our Pastor's house tonight. He asked me, "who's gonna win The Chase?" My simple honest answer was Jimmie. Sure Kenseth has a chance. Of course I'm rooting for Kyle. 5 consecutive championships in the last 7 years is a BIG DEAL. Jimmie & Chad are a proven winning team.

I wouldn't say JJ, in those years of the five consecutive championships never did Jimmie have a team as strong against his. Matt and the 20 crew are incredibly fast and well put, Kyle's issue is that his team isn't and if they were he wouldn't have to push to move up the pack from a bad pit stop.

Let's be clear next week will truly set the pecking order, of course the other races have importance, but not nearly as much as Talladega. I also wouldn't call this race meaningless, it kept a tight battle going. Not sure why you'd think major changes would happen?

Glad to see that P1 position was oh so helpful for Gordon.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

No change in the top 5, this race was meaningless.

This whole Chase is meaningless. We all know it's down to Kenseth and Johnson anyways.

 

[Müle]

those years of the five consecutive championships never did Jimmie have a team as strong against his.

Want to think about that and answer again?

2007? 2010?

 

[ICEYOU]

Want to think about that and answer again?

2007? 2010?

Gordon and Hamlin

 

[Jahgee]

'07 Gordon was definitely Johnson's toughest competition, I mean finishing in the top 10 95% of the time is a feat that no one has done before or since.

 

[ICEYOU]

'07 Gordon was definitely Johnson's toughest competition, I mean finishing in the top 10 95% of the time is a feat that no one has done before or since.

Petty never did so?

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Want to think about that and answer again?

2007? 2010?

I really don't think Hamlin ever had it and as for Gordon that one I think I might agree with but there is an argument to be made still. I would say that Kenseth is still the strongest one at this point, I mean with Denny he only rose to the moment when JJ had an issues. Denny had an issue finishing in the top 5 and fully optimizing JJ's rare bad luck.

Gordon on the other hand actually looked on par for the first half and then just fell off the map. It also didn't help that JJ made everyone look silly by winning the last 4 of 5 races and finishing well in the first five close to Gordon. I still think Gordon had the better chance cause he seemed to have similar speed, which I'd say is what Kenseth has. He can have a bad looking race (like last week and tonight) and then finish ahead of JJ to keep the lead, even though JJ was much faster most of the race. That right there shows a more key feature that people forget and that is a team that can do well and fight on par with the "great" Lowe's team.

Petty never did so?

I think he is talking about the chase.

Also Gordon would have actually won that year if there wasn't a stupid chase.

 

[ICEYOU]

Why do people hate the chase so much, it's more entertaining than seeing 1 driver that did good all year win it, afterall.

Edit: I think other forms of motorsports could use a playoff model too. Especially in F1 so they can stop Sebastian Vettel.

 

[Furinkazen]

Because ICE. Without the chase we would have had more champions.

 

[LancerEvo7]

Without the Chase, Gordon would be 6-time.

I think.

And a Chase in Formula 1 would do nothing. Usually one team is dominating by that point in the season. Resetting points would almost certainly do nothing.

 

[Furinkazen]

Play offs are over complicating and stupid.

 

[GTPorsche]

Playoffs in racing is just the worst idea ever.

 

[Blitz24]

The only racing series that a Playoff makes sense for is the NHRA. Otherwise, just no.

 

[MustangRyan]

Spotted on the way home this morning.

 

[Shoe67]

Are you driving the mustang that is your avatar?

 

[MustangRyan]

Are you driving the mustang that is your avatar?

Did the hood give it away?

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Yeah I have to say I'm more interested in your awesome car, rather than the transporter of the driver that finished 7th.

Why do people hate the chase so much, it's more entertaining than seeing 1 driver that did good all year win it, afterall.

Edit: I think other forms of motorsports could use a playoff model too. Especially in F1 so they can stop Sebastian Vettel.

A playoff system is a gimmick it doesn't truly show the best driver over the year but rather over just 10 races. F1 most definitely does not need such a joke system, Vettel and RBR are winning just like other groups that won many years in a row, because they have the best equipment and are a better team. Real racing is what is needed not a gimmick to boost ratings and profit.

It works fine for non-motorsports sports, and that is because only the best teams make it in and even a wildcard team had to have pretty good standing to make it in. Motorsports have more variables and the playoffs don't truly crown the best driver. This year I may disagree and say the chase did pick the best driver and virtually worked since Kenseth and JJ were doing great before the chase. For the most part the chase does nothing, but give fans hope that their driver that theoretically didn't deserve to be hashing it out for a championship is there. If this were football, Gordon wouldn't even be a wildcard team he'd be out and have to hope for better next season.

 

[Northstar]

Especially in F1 so they can stop Sebastian Vettel.

F1(and 99% of motorsports) doesn't need gimmicks to have exciting championship battles, in 2010 Vettel wasn't even leading going into the final race and last year went down to the final race as well.

There will always be years when a driver just dominates the whole year, it's boring, but usually there are more years where the battle is at least somewhat close. There is no need to try and manufacture the close battles as it usually backfires(see Johnson's five titles) and even when it does end up being a down to the wire battle, it still doesn't feel right like 2011 didn't feel right to me.

 

[MustangRyan]

Yeah I have to say I'm more interested in your awesome car, rather than the transporter of the driver that finished 7th.

Thanks. It's just another one of the thousands of Mustang GTs with forced induction and more money spent than common sense should allow.

 

[ICEYOU]

And a Chase in Formula 1 would do nothing. Usually one team is dominating by that point in the season. Resetting points would almost certainly do nothing.

But it would allow teams to catch up with Vettel

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Thanks. It's just another one of the thousands of Mustang GTs with forced induction and more money spent than common sense should allow.

Yeah but your car is actually nice, I'm a massive hater of that gen so it says something when I like it. And most of the guys that do what you've done that I meet are usually on the second engine due to blowing the first.

Back to NASCAR, Justin hit the nail on the head with the chase comment.

 

[Wilbur]

F1(and 99% of motorsports) doesn't need gimmicks to have exciting championship battles, in 2010 Vettel wasn't even leading going into the final race and last year went down to the final race as well.

There will always be years when a driver just dominates the whole year, it's boring, but usually there are more years where the battle is at least somewhat close. There is no need to try and manufacture the close battles as it usually backfires(see Johnson's five titles) and even when it does end up being a down to the wire battle, it still doesn't feel right like 2011 didn't feel right to me.

2011 was a weird year, as Stewart barely made the chase then took off. Kahne also had super strong run in the chase races with nothing to really show.

Edward's should have won the title for actually being the best over all the races period.

I really think Nascar isn't sure how to get rid of it now that they have it. It's one of those things that unless someone just says forget it all together, they will keep messing with it because they don't want someones ego being bruised over a dumb idea.