2013 NASCAR Thread

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Doth1s
You shouldn't laugh at her. She is single-handedly keeping poorer teams in the mix week in and week out.
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Maybe so but she also is taking away from women and racer. If nascar needed help being laughing stock of motorsports or non fans, she sure hasn't helped anything other than proving Daytona is a joke and she has no talent in upper level Motorsports.

If I were here I'd find an exit to something atleast where she could hide and Ricky had to be embarassed.
 
It's sad how Daytona has gone from being arguably the crown jewel of American racing to being worth so little a back marker can stay up front all day and a 20 year old who couldn't find a full time Nationwide ride for two years afterwards can win it all.
 
Watching a reair of qualifying, Jeff Gordon's got some grey scruff going on :lol:
 
Ganon83
It's sad how Daytona has gone from being arguably the crown jewel of American racing to being worth so little a back marker can stay up front all day and a 20 year old who couldn't find a full time Nationwide ride for two years afterwards can win it all.
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Well Roush dicked over a few guys and Trevor was one of them. Funny how he couldn't fund ride for him but did for Pastrana. I call completely crap and he will string him along til same deal with Ragan.
 
Wilbur
Well Roush dicked over a few guys and Trevor was one of them. Funny how he couldn't fund ride for him but did for Pastrana. I call completely crap and he will string him along til same deal with Ragan.
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I thought the funding for the 60 car was out of Pastrana's pocket. While I do agree that he screwed over Trevor, He actually did manage to land a full time ride (though part of me keeps thinking if Ricky hadn't of stepped out, he wouldn't have had it).
 
RACECAR
I thought the funding for the 60 car was out of Pastrana's pocket. While I do agree that he screwed over Trevor, He actually did manage to land a full time ride (though part of me keeps thinking if Ricky hadn't of stepped out, he wouldn't have had it).
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He might have funded his own ride but the point is Roush can fund a car more than he claims.

The other thing that have kind of bothered me is how do you lose both Mark and Matt who we all though were career guys for Roush? If anything Mark would have been part time there if things were all that great!

There are few guys over years who also been given raw deals like Colin Braun, Ryan Truex/Bayne with MWR.
 
Truex is kind of understandable, with Pastrana buying Waltrip out of NWide and closing the team like a year later.
 
Wilbur
There are few guys over years who also been given raw deals like Colin Braun, Ryan Truex/Bayne with MWR.
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I think the MWR deal in Nationwide was really a sponsorship issue (outside of Pastrana, who didn't even get to be in the car after his X-games accident.) NAPA might have ended up being like Dollar General in that they wanted ONLY cup drivers in the car. Notice that outside of Montreal (which ironically is off the schedule this year), they want nothing to do with Nationwide. Yes they were a sponsor for Waltrip's K&N Pro Series with Truex but even then, they've up and left that too.

As for Colin Braun, that was just plain being screwed around. He's the main one keeping the car from crashing while Ricky couldn't go one race without hitting someone or something yet Braun gets dumped while Ricky just gets a sit down and gets his ride back. Its why, along with the BS he pulled in the ARCA Finale, I still don't like Stenhouse. Did I mention he was also a douche several times to his own teammate?
 
Well Truex and Bayne both had same sponsor wjth Petcare or something (don't remember exactly)

I always thought those 3 never got a fair chance whole some kept getting chances. I don't mind Ricky learning and having some screw ups but it sucks that folks who can do ok while learning seem to get the boot. Truex even has a personal sponsor now and still has limited runs after solid results. I'm curious how the whole Aaron's sponsorship will work with Chase when he moves up more?

Sponsors are weird sometimes and they pick guys for whatever reason. If I had money to blow, I know where I'd spend it because of what they offer and do with limited funds.
 
Watching the Nationwide race. It has to be said, this is the most racey I've seen Sadler in quite some time.


Travis Pastrana isn't doing too bad either, though he could use some work on his throttle input.
 
Just on the NNS race. Kyle won ( :yawn: ) but what a great recovery by Regan Smith and the #7 team to finish 3rd after suffering a flat tyre early on.
 
NASCAR should make the rule where a driver can only move up (ex: Trucks to Nationwide) in the sport, not go back down just to fill holes in their massive egos because they can't win in the top tier. No other sanctioning body allows this, but apparently NASCAR is run backwards.
 
RVDNuT374
NASCAR should make the rule where a driver can only move up (ex: Trucks to Nationwide) in the sport, not go back down just to fill holes in their massive egos because they can't win in the top tier. No other sanctioning body allows this, but apparently NASCAR is run backwards.
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NASCAR's argument for ages is that no one will come to the Busch/Nationwide races, unless they have a few big names in the field. Wouldn't affect me since the times I do watch a race live, I buy a weekend package, so I'll be going to both races anyways.
 
If you have read DW's book (It was actually somewhat better then expected, then again I went in expecting ****), he gave the best explanation as to why Cup drivers such as himself (He won a lot of Busch races as well) ran in Busch.
He wrote, basically, that it isn't for pride, honor, getting to know the track, fun, ego, etc. It could help all of those things, but the main reason why is quite simple: money.
 
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Sadly, it's true. Athletes in major sports tell you that they love the sport and have a passion for it, but in the end all they are doing it for is money.
 
RVDNuT374
NASCAR should make the rule where a driver can only move up (ex: Trucks to Nationwide) in the sport, not go back down just to fill holes in their massive egos because they can't win in the top tier. No other sanctioning body allows this, but apparently NASCAR is run backwards.
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Actually they do, not as often but it does happen.

Also, I can name three reasons why that will never happen:

1. Money (for both NASCAR AND the drivers)
2. Ticket Sales
3. Sponsors. You know the real reason why Doller General left Turner Motorsports? No Cup drivers.
 
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RVDNuT374
No other sanctioning body allows this, but apparently NASCAR is run backwards.
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Except for all of them...

Even F1(FIA) allows it, Romain Grosjean raced for Renault F1 in 2009 only to go back to GP2 for 2010. I think the only drivers who can't go back to GP2 are F1 champions.

I think you are trying to hard to dislike NASCAR, which isn't really needed as they make it rather easy(excessive fines, "debris" cautions, 1.5 mile tracks flooding the schedule etc...).
 
Justin
Except for all of them...

Even F1(FIA) allows it, Romain Grosjean raced for Renault F1 in 2009 only to go back to GP2 for 2010. I think the only drivers who can't go back to GP2 are F1 champions.

I think you are trying to hard to dislike NASCAR, which isn't really needed as they make it rather easy(excessive fines, "debris" cautions, 1.5 mile tracks flooding the schedule etc...).
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While true, they aren't allowed to race both at the same time, which is the point here.
 
This has been going on since NASCAR started to a degree, to be honest NASCAR isn't always like others in how drivers are in general.

Overall it is a catch 22 in last 10 years because we have sponsors who aren't willing to spend money on just anyone without results but without that money younger guys coming up don't get the chances to show what they got in better cars either. Granted I think you can compete regardless of any funding but it can change how things are run.

Do I care that those guys run races, no not in the least because you know as a sim racer, I want to race as much as I can. Why aren't they allowed to and we saw how Kyle didn't do hot last year while this year the change shows old him. It's fun for them, less pressure and a learning tool.
 
Justin
Except for all of them...

Even F1(FIA) allows it, Romain Grosjean raced for Renault F1 in 2009 only to go back to GP2 for 2010. I think the only drivers who can't go back to GP2 are F1 champions.

I think you are trying to hard to dislike NASCAR, which isn't really needed as they make it rather easy(excessive fines, "debris" cautions, 1.5 mile tracks flooding the schedule etc...).
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New to NASCAR so bear with, but whats wrong with 1.5 mile tracks?
 
MildAshers
New to NASCAR so bear with, but whats wrong with 1.5 mile tracks?
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They are all very similar, and take up a very large portion of the schedule, especially among the final ten races where the championship is decided.
 
I remember back in the day when the pre-race shows were short and sweet. Then they started dragging them out to an hour, then longer, and longer..... I don't bother watching them anymore. Plus they are pretty boring to me now, too. So I just look on Jayski to see the approximate green flag time and turn it on a couple of minutes beforehand. 👍
 

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