2014 Nurburgring 24 hour, VLN series 7/12 teams signed up

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Another team with only one participant? lobby 1 is starting to look a bit empty. :p
 
I can't help but think that if there is only one driver they should probably go in lobby 1?
 
I was thinking that as well, you put your best driver there. If you only have one driver, that driver = the best?
 
I can't help but think that if there is only one driver they should probably go in lobby 1?

Either that, or the lobbies are evened up. I agree we can't have more than a difference of '1' between the numbers in the two lobbies.

Matt.....make the call :)
 
P24 haven't annouced a driver in room 1 yet hence why room 2 has 2 more people, Once they announce the driver, the difference will be 1, but if Tati moves to room 1 too, I think it will be equal. EDIT: Scratch that, it won't work, 7 - 2= 5, 5+ 2= 7 so its the same as before

Once P24 announce the lineup then it will be 6-7 which should be ok I think.
 
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N24 CSS Round 4 - 26th October Autumn Ring
[/SIZE]Driver / Room Round up

Room 1
1. PluxtheDuck - TMB (Yellow #39)
2. xNikodemusx - GORE (Green #19)
3. memto89 - CCR (Matte Grey, #1)
4. Nin-Chin - THAR (White #88)
5. TDZdave - GHH (Red #11)
6. revetion - P24 (#24)
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Room 2
1. i-was-ere - TMB (Yellow #38)
2. the_proffs - GORE (Green #14)
3. jonnyb1990 - CCR (Matte Grey, #12)
4. duke_adam46 - THAR (White #88)
5. WIDFO - - GHH (Red #11)
6. eDirtyTati - TG ( Orange #27)
7. Lucas - P24 (#24) (im guessing the number)
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Please note that Scott (i-was-ere) will be hosting ROOM 2 this for this Autumn Ring Race, so all drivers in Room 2 please ensure you have him added as a PSN Friend.

I am not about at all this weekend so can someone with a stable connection step up and host Room 1.

Matt....can you host Room 1?
 
Driver's Brief:
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Track: Autumn Ring Full
Laps: 95+Pace Lap
Weather: Sunny

+) After last round's somewhat disorganised stewarding, and the position changes that followed; a succinct list of rules and penalties have been published in post #3 of this thread. If you wish to appeal a result, please do so within 5 days of the Steward's Report being published.

+) Pit Lines: While they aren't really present on this track, it is expected that upon pit exit, you keep to the right until the apex of Turn 1 before adopting the racing line.
See post #3's rule on Rejoin Blocking.

+) Track Limits: Are defined entirely by the White Line/(in this case) Blue and White curbing. See post #3 for the rules regarding penalties

+) On a lighter note, WEC just had it's first ever penalty free round last weekend, so let's see if we can't match them. Racing quality has been impressively high from what I've seen so far, let's keep it up for the final two rounds.
 
After reading post #3, im somewhat confused by its articulation, is it 2 wheels must remain inside track limits or all 4 wheels must remain inside track limits, normally wouldn't be bothered by this rule at any other circuit, but turn 3 - turn 6 complex there is at least 8 tenths to be found by getting aggressive with the kerbing,
 
It's two wheels Dave. The rule states that "if all four wheels are no longer within the track limits" you can get a penalty. Thus if you have two wheels within the outside edge of the curbing or white line at all times you will be immune from this rule.
 
As I hinted at last time I think None Shall pass shall not be passed this week as they aren't on (or not early enough). Sorry guys and girls. So far it's looking unlikely for the Nurburgring race too.
 
Regarding t3 -t6, does that include kerbing, or strictly white lines?
 
From what they said i guess it includes curbing? I have one of my exams today. After that I'll finally have some time to practise for this.. before I start studying for the next exam ^^
 
Yes it mentions both john, but my confusion comes from my understanding of it controdicts itself, just my interpretation, hence my conclusion and asking for clarity on the subject,
 
Well yes, in that case you're right, it is the widest point from the centre of the track defined by those two limits. So if there is curbing, you can use that, if there is not you have to obey the white line.
Forgive me for being short, it's just that; a) given the fact that it mentions the curbing rather then simply stating the white line, I'd have thought the implication was quite obvious and b) I've been racing with you for just over a year now and every series we've run in together has used this rule, including ones you've stewarded. I kinda inferred from these two facts that you have quite a good grasp on it.
 
I'll more than likely be able to take part, I haven't really read up on whats the deal is here but If I could run a nissan that would be cool. #35 too
 
Well yes, in that case you're right, it is the widest point from the centre of the track defined by those two limits. So if there is curbing, you can use that, if there is not you have to obey the white line.
Forgive me for being short, it's just that; a) given the fact that it mentions the curbing rather then simply stating the white line, I'd have thought the implication was quite obvious and b) I've been racing with you for just over a year now and every series we've run in together has used this rule, including ones you've stewarded. I kinda inferred from these two facts that you have quite a good grasp on it.

I agree john, but other corner complexes like the one in question, ascari curves etc, we elaborate more in depth due to the amount of time gained by doing the wrong thing,

I shall ask again in different articulation,

Is it A) zero wheels, B) 2 wheels or C) all 4 wheels, that is an absolute observation of the corner being cut, thus gaining one strike against your name regarding the penalty?
 
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I'll more than likely be able to take part, I haven't really read up on whats the deal is here but If I could run a nissan that would be cool. #35 too

Hi Lout

It's actually a team championship but perhaps you could sub in for MicAntony in the Team Georgia Team. That would mean using the same Corvette as eDirtyTati is and you'd be in Room 1.

I'll leave you to sort it with Matt or Jonny as I'm about to go catch a train
 
The question about curbs/whiteline is not over IMHO.

If there's BOTH curbs AND a white line.
Which one is used for the rule?
 
I can only assume this is part of an elaborate ruse to defeat CCR by getting it's drivers banned from GTP for double posting but;

Well yes, in that case you're right, it is the widest point from the centre of the track defined by those two limits. So if there is curbing, you can use that, if there is not you have to obey the white line.

States it quite clearly.

I agree john, but other corner complexes like the one in question, ascari curves etc, we elaborate more in depth due to the amount of time gained by doing the wrong thing,

I shall ask again in different articulation,

Is it A) zero wheels, B) 2 wheels or C) all 4 wheels, that is an absolute observation of the corner being cut, thus gaining one strike against your name regarding the penalty?

As per a previous reply;
track limits are defined by the outside edge of the white line on the circuit, however they also include the red and white curbing on apexes and exits;*1 exceptions to this rule will be included in the driver’s briefing. A car must keep two wheels within the track limits at all times. If all four wheels are no longer within the track limits on three incidences within three laps, a penalty will be incurred.*2

Since the driver's brief not only failed to mention exceptions, but instead explicitly stated that the limits were defined entirely by point 1, which has now been clarified twice as well, I cannot see any potential for ambiguity. Nor can I see any ambiguity in point 2 which has also been quoted previously.

If you are still uncertain about this rule, I would invite you to simply mimic the lines taken by other cars. Since all I am doing now is recycling information that is stated elsewhere, I consider the matter settled.
 
In other words. cut the corner all you like, as long as two wheels are inside or on the curbing. Correct?
 
Anyone else want to ask stupid questions about the track limits? no? I think we're done now Jonny ;)

Looking forward to tomorrow. Hoping to be as close to the top as last time, but seems improbable with so little practise.
 
In other words. cut the corner all you like, as long as two wheels are inside or on the curbing. Correct?

This i can comprehend, why didn't you just say this john? Im a truck driver for good reason,
 
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