2014 Nurburgring 24 hour, VLN series 7/12 teams signed up

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Looks like GORE got some negatives and some positives out of that.. mostly positive though. Second podium woo! :) (If it's final this time.. )
 
Phouchg
Looks like GORE got some negatives and some positives out of that.. mostly positive though. Second podium woo! :) (If it's final this time.. )
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For room one the deciding factor for the whole race was that contact on lap 36 between the Lexus and the Subaru, was such a shame coz play was having such a good race and came so close to winning the whole thing on the road
 
Don't know how I finished within 20secs since I was struggling at the start, with Lout on my gearbox and flashing his lights endlessly, I found pace as the race went on, but sadly I couldn't catch you guys ahead, but it's good to get a 2nd place, I think that puts us with 14points, shame that we got only 1 car to finish line in both races thanks to connection issues, we hope to take the flag at the Nurburgring in the top 5.
 
Sorry about the lights, my light button is R3 so as I'm accelerating/braking I'm also accidentally flashing the lights :lol: i really need to change that!
 
Felt a bit bad for Play, he did real good in that race. But it shows how little it was between first and last in room one when he went from first to last by 20 seconds with that penalty.
 
R0ssingt0n
Sorry about the lights, my light button is R3 so as I'm accelerating/braking I'm also accidentally flashing the lights :lol: i really need to change that!
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Lol that's explains a lot, I thought you were trying my trick of intimidating people by flashing the lights
 
I got a real taste of that yesterday in testing ^^ lights flashing are more noticable in the night..
 
that's the main reason I haven't bothered changing it, I only use standard cars in the 2 championships in in full time.
 
N24 CSS table updated in my OP. With 60 points available for the winning team in the Grand Finale on 9th November, it's still all to play for, and the 8 day forecast for Nurburgring is currently looking very wet and changable so it could turn into a real lottery for that all important team result.

This is going to be VERY interesting :)
 
You get 60 points for winning on the nürb right? then even our team can win ^^ We "just" need to win the race and everyone in ccr to dc. Probably need things to happen to the other teams as well but thought this was improbable enough. Especially since it will be one of attrapps first real online races ever.. winning is maybe too much to ask. :P
 
Do we know the lap count for the nurb 3 hours? I calculate 21 laps at 8.30 per lap, but it depends on how much allowance you make for wet weather. In a wet race 21 laps is going to go well over.
 
I think a 9 min lap is more realistic for calculations.. Expecting rain.

Edit: that would mean 20 laps though.. so just one less.
 
Yes we were discussing making it an 19 lap race to allow for dark, pitstops and weather.

There would not be a pace lap. The rolling start would go green somewhere on the GP loop
 
We are on final countdown to the series finale at 'The Green Hell' that is the Nurburgring. Despite CCR being clear favourites, the fact that the fastest team time will result in 60 points, means that everything is still to play for, especially with a wet race and 2 teams fielding 4WD cars.

Will the Lotus be able to maintain it's peerless speed in very tricky conditions?

N24 CSS Round 5 (20 laps - 3 hours) - 9th November - Nurb 24hr Change Weather / Change Time

PS - Teams that can only field 2 drivers will get a 'laps completed' team score as opposed to a 'Total Race Time' score as it will require 3 drivers to cover all 60 laps by each team.

Full details will be in the Drivers Briefing

Driver / Room Round up

Room 1
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Room 3
1. Gadget334 - TMB (Yellow #34)
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N24 CSS Round 5 (19 laps - 3 hours) - 9th November - Nurb 24hr Change Weather / Change Time

Driver / Room Round up

Room 1
1. PluxtheDuck - TMB (Yellow #39)
2. xNikodemusx - GORE (Green #19)
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Room 2
1. i-was-ere - TMB (Yellow #38)
2. the_proffs - GORE (Green #14)
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Room 3
1. Gadget334 - TMB (Yellow #34)
2. attrapp - GORE (Green #18)
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N24 CSS Round 5 (19 laps - 3 hours) - 9th November - Nurb 24hr Change Weather / Change Time
Driver / Room Round up

Room 1
1. PluxtheDuck - TMB (Yellow #39)
2. xNikodemusx - GORE (Green #19)
3. jonnyb1990 - CCR (grey #12)
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Room 2
1. i-was-ere - TMB (Yellow #38)
2. the_proffs - GORE (Green #14)
3. memto89 - CCR (grey #1)
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Room 3
1. Gadget334 - TMB (Yellow #34)
2. attrapp - GORE (Green #18)
3. jammyozzy - CCR (grey #13)
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Drivers Brief



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Track: Nurburgring N24

Laps: 21 No pace Lap

Weather: Variable

Race time: 3 Hours

Lobbies: 3

Room 1 host: Jonnyb1990
Room 2 host: memto89
Room 3 host: Gadget334


Weather:

This is the first change weather race of the CSS, The settings will be.

Weather: 50%

Changeability: 10

Surface Water: 50%


Qualifying:

Qualifying will be the same as normal with only 20 mins to completed time. This means that you will only get 1 lap so make sure it is clean as there is only a 3 mins window between completing your out and flying lap and the session ending.


Formation Lap:

The formation lap will not be a full lap as per normal CSS races, it will be to the start of sector 3 on the GP circuit.





Race:

The race is a 3 hour race, one hour longer than normal. Races like these are not won on the first corner of the first lap, Please make you are clean and consistent as it is a long way round if you get damage.


Race End:

The race will end on Lap 20 for the leader not 21. When you have finished your lap please make your way round to the run off section at turn 11 of the GP track, Please remain behind the leader when you park and leave your car there until the last person has arrived at turn 11 and parked. At that point the race will end.


Once the screen message announces 'the Leader has crossed the line with one lap to go' the rest of the pack completes the lap they are on at racing speed and then fall in line with no overtaking once they cross the finishing line at the end of that lap.


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The reason for this is to ensure fair stewarding at the end as it is possible to be more than 3 mins behind the leader on such a big track.

The race time for any cars that are a lap or more behind the winner will be given a race time equal to their race time at the point they cross the line on their last racing lap + the time the winner took to complete the last lap or number of laps that driver was behind the winner.



Disconnections:

As this race is run in 3 lobbies and requires 3 drivers we understand that some teams may only be able to get 2 drivers in for the race. Instead of the regular 70% race distance completed rule we are moving it to 58% race distances, which allows for a disconnection in one lobby of 3 drivers and also allows a 2 driver team.


A team will have to log 33 laps (as a team) in order to be scored)


If a driver DC's on Lap 1 the race will be red flagged and restarted as an 19 (20) lap race in the order the cars are in at the time the red flag is called.


The driver that caused the DC will start from the back of the grid.


Any DC's after Lap 1 will be treated as a mechanical failure and that car will record a 'laps completed' time only to be added to his/her teammates lap scores.


Any teams that cannot provide a driver in each race room will also only score a result as 'laps completed' for the drivers that do show.



Any questions Please ask.
 
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Have question about all procedure before race start.
For example:
1. Spec check
2. Weather set
3. Tyres set
4. Quali
5. Tyres set
6. Race start

If I'm wrong just correct me, please.
Thanks
 
GTL_Lucas
Have question about all procedure before race start.
For example:
1. Spec check
2. Weather set
3. Tyres set
4. Quali
5. Tyres set
6. Race start

If I'm wrong just correct me, please.
Thanks
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Room open: 22:00 GMT (including weather settings)
Spec Check: 22:30 GMT
Qualifying: 22:35 GMT
5 Min rest and tyre selection: 22:55 GMT
Race Start: 23:00
 
memto89
Weather:

This is the first change weather race of the CSS, The settings will be.

Weather: 50%

Changeability: 10

Surface Water: 50%


Qualifying:

Qualifying will be the same as normal with only 20 mins to completed time. This means that you will only get 1 lap so make sure it is clean as there is only a 3 mins window between completing your out and flying lap and the session ending.
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Will qualifying be in wet?
 
the_proffs
Will qualifying be in wet?
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All depends on the weather mate. could go any way just like in real life.. it also may be different depending on the room as well, but again it would be the difference between day quli and night quli at lemans
 
Proffs - I believe the intention is to use the settings Memto quoted earlier for the start of qually after spec check and they will not be changed again.

So qually will certainly start with 50% weather, 50% Surface water, but by the end of qually and the start of the race the track could have got wetter or completely dried out.

Tyre choice is likely to be very important
 
N24 CSS Round 5 (19 laps(20) - 3 hours) - 9th November - Nurb 24hr Change Weather / Change Time

Driver / Room Round up

Host: jonnyb1990
Room 1
1. PluxtheDuck - TMB (Yellow #39)
2. xNikodemusx - GORE (Green #19)
3. jonnyb1990 - CCR (Grey #12)
4. duke_adam46 - THAR (White #88)
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Host: memto89
Room 2
1. i-was-ere - TMB (Yellow #38)
2. the_proffs - GORE (Green #14)
3. memto89 - CCR (Grey #1)
4. Nin-Chin - THAR (White #88)
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Host: Gadget334
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1. Gadget334 - TMB (Yellow #34)
2. attrapp - GORE (Green #18)
3. Jammyozzy - CCR (Grey #13)
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I will ask lout if he is available to race, then I will add him to the list.
 
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Didn't fully grasp the rules for DC's and teams with only 2 drivers.. Did I understand correctly that a team of only two drivers will be disadvantaged by a third of the race distance? Or could you give an example how it works? Can a team with only two starters win if another team finishes with three drivers?
 
Phouchg
Didn't fully grasp the rules for DC's and teams with only 2 drivers.. Did I understand correctly that a team of only two drivers will be disadvantaged by a third of the race distance? Or could you give an example how it works? Can a team with only two starters win if another team finishes with three drivers?
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This is correct, a team of only 2 drivers will only be scored as completing 40 of 60 laps, so a team of two cannot win against any team of 3 where all drivers complete race distance.
 
Phouchg - in short, no a 2 driver team would be very unlikely to win unless all other teams have an early disconnect or also show up with a driver less.

Example of Teams entering only 2 drivers.
The full race distance is 60 laps (3 drivers doing 20 laps in each of the three rooms). If a team only enters in 2 rooms their maximum race distance they could achieve would be 40 laps, and therefore they would not complete full race distance and their team result would be '40 laps completed in xhours, xminutes, xseconds'. As long as at least 33 laps is completed BY EACH TEAM they will record a race result. Anything under 33 laps by a team will be classed as a DNF and will not be rewarded by any points.

Example of a team suffering a Disconnect (after Lap 1)
For an example of a DC, lets say a team has two drivers complete race distance (20 laps each) in Room 1 and Room 2, but in Room 3 their driver DC's after 11 laps. In that example their Team Result would be 20+20+11 = 51 laps in xhours, xminutes, xseconds.

Example of a team having a driver finish a lap or more behind the winner in their room
The final example is a team that wins their races in Room 1 and Room 2 (full distance of 20 laps each) but in Room 3 their driver has a bad race and is lapped twice by the winner.....but......is still running at the end of the race. In this example the driver in room 3 will be given a race time = to his total race time time as he completes his last racing lap (lap 18 in this instance) and then we would ADD the winning drivers last two lap times to give our example driver his estimated race time for the full 20 laps.

So lets say the winner in Room 3 completes his 20th lap in 3.00.00 hrs exactly, and the example driver (lapped twice) completes his 18th lap in 3:02:00. We then look at the Room 3 winners final 2 laps (laps 19 and 20) and lets say both were completed in 8:30secs each, making 17 mins total. Therefore, our example drivers time would be recorded as 3:02:00 + 17:00 = 3:19:00 total. This would be added to his teams Room 1 and 2 times for his teams total race time.

I hope this is clear and covers off all of your questions. Sorry if it sounds complicated but apart from waiting for every driver to complete the full 20 laps (by parking cars off track on the added lap), this is the fairest and simplest way, and avoids adding maybe 30 mins to the race time while tail enders trundle around on their own catching up to the lead lap.
 
That cleared up my questions thanks! :) Oh just one reassurance.. because I wouldn't wan't to do it wrong. The race is over as I cross the finish-line for the first time after I've seen the "jonny leads with one lap to go"-message right? And then I'll just drive to turn 11 and park in line.
 
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