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I'd rather watch from the sidelines.I'd much rather wear old timey clothes than Lycra.![]()
On another note, at least some are racing V8 touring cars. Any way to get Toyota to change their minds about participating in VASC?
I'd rather watch from the sidelines.I'd much rather wear old timey clothes than Lycra.![]()
^ This but.....I'd much rather wear old timey clothes than Lycra.![]()
^ This is the safer option considering I haven't ridden a pushie in 30 odd years.I'd rather watch from the sidelines.
That's fine. With Davies there, they'll continue to have their own little inter-team BTCC. Need quality drivers at MWM.
See, I'm a Lowndes fan & I reckon the crap with the wigs makes them look like dickheads.Not a fan of 888 but their promo work is always great.
A lot of white for a Red Bull car it seems.
I'm pretty sure that's the whole point of these clips... to have a laugh at how bad the acting and costumes are as well as poke fun at stereotypes (ala sheep-shagging).See, I'm a Lowndes fan & I reckon the crap with the wigs makes them look like dickheads.
There 'scriptwriter'/'director' ain't gunna trouble Hollywood either.
It just looks incredibly amateur from a professional organisation.
Yeah look, I get it & to be perfectly honest, I think it's coming from a Red Bull marketing angle.I'm pretty sure that's the whole point of these clips... to have a laugh at how bad the acting and costumes are as well as poke fun at stereotypes (ala sheep-shagging).
“We have had lots of conversations [with Ford], but I see nothing on the drawing board right now that we will be running a Mustang in 2019,” Penske told Supercars.com.
“It would almost be impossible.
“I think we have to look at what manufacturer we go to, because we have had other manufacturers talk to us.
“If we can’t get the support we need from Ford in Australia – they have been very sensitive to their situation there and to me we have to manage through that – we will look at what other manufacturers might have interest with us.”
I'm not happy eitherDJRTP is on the lookout for another manufacturer next season.
Seems like the captain isn't too happy with the lack of progress with the Mustang.
Good! If Nissan want to switch teams, or Chrysler, Audi, Lexus, AMG, BMW, Jaguar, Infiniti, Hyundai- I'd imagine Kia raised eyebrows during last year's performance, want to join, I'm all for a change.DJRTP is on the lookout for another manufacturer next season.
Seems like the captain isn't too happy with the lack of progress with the Mustang.
Sorry to read that, but I had my XR8 as well and switched to several brands since then. Good to know brands approached him. The series needs this. BTCC/TCR/GT4/GT3, they all have their fill of brands. Andretti knew a change was in order, out of necessity.I'm not happy either. It's bad enough that I drive an HSV now, so if Ford goes, I go.
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Ford are so stupid, it beggars belief.DJRTP is on the lookout for another manufacturer next season.
Seems like the captain isn't too happy with the lack of progress with the Mustang.
Ford are so stupid, it beggars belief.
Ford >
Me, Roger Penske, DJRTP, Ford fans,.................>![]()
From what I've seen and heard from some fans, it's the rules. I'd say Production Car racing is the equivalent of Group Aand that's growing massively, even with owners spending big dollars in development. GT4 would be akin to Group C. Super Touring(wasn't received well here) would be TCR. The series would have been the same without Penske. Some of best racing, before Penske, was with the change to COTF.Ford can't be that stupid. While I originally complained about them last year, it seems they're not as foolish or tight with money as I thought. They proved me wrong with WRC and have seemingly put in more money other places too and show interest after the GTE program is done. So to me this is more of an issue with yet again VASC than it is Ford or any one manufacture
It was easy for me to say Ford was the problem prior and what not, but I was wrong I think to say that. There isn't a reason for Ford to come back to such a regional series and make a factory effort out of it where the series is expensive. No one else seems to interested in playing the game and those involved with manufacture efforts are few and far between. It was great for DJTRP to win the manufacture championship against factory efforts, but we're talking about a Motorsport Titan playing a game of ball with those not on his level.
I would say though that the least ford could have done is give some help on a replacement for the Falcon. As for the locals, I get it you guys don't want to be told a series or continuation of what you grew up with is struggling to stay alive, but it is and that's the reality of it all. You could have all the American giants of Motorsports come over and have fun with it but you have to wonder if the extra sponsors and potential to set up shop are the reason because the more important factor is still not coming around. Roger is probably always going to have a someone wanting to join and become successful due to his leadership and know how, but what about the rest of the field and what happens when Roger leaves?
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...e/news-story/71313a6a372d2deb5ef95a83332683faDaily Telegraph posted another sneak peek of the new 888 livery showing more of the rest of the car, looks great so far, reminds me of the WRC VWs.
From what I've seen and heard from some fans, it's the rules. I'd say Production Car racing is the equivalent of Group Aand that's growing massively, even with owners spending big dollars in development. GT4 would be akin to Group C. Super Touring(wasn't received well here) would be TCR. The series would have been the same without Penske. Some of best racing, before Penske, was with the change to COTF.
COTF rules were too inconsistent. DOHC engines, drive by wire, etc, but Ford and Holden didn't want to change. Had they led by example, I believe it would have been easier for manufacturers to want to come in(regardless of budget). The restriction on the amount of manufacturers was dumb. Why set a maximum of 5 or 6? Clearly that shuts most out. Making an excuse because it would be tough to manage, requires a smart team to manage it.
Manufacturers saying, "it's not for us", means the series isn't open to listen, let alone willing to change. Now the series is here. People that can see the racing say it's a tough series. Close racing. Management try to court manufacturers by waving multiple doors and engines. That's desperation from the show promoters.
Ford being so off and on in Australian racing, is a mystery. To have multiple Touring car & loyal (V8)Supercars teams, win championships with the blue oval/Ford body and Ford to throw those relationships in the bin, is the thing that bites. Again, from what I've seen/see.
Probably because their future after this season is up in the air and they didn't want to switch engines for a single season if they quit.It's confusing to me that Nissan wouldn't shift over to a formula they're more use to winning with, and would instead opt to stick with V8s, while Holden actually does the V6 tt thing.
Probably because their future after this season is up in the air and they didn't want to switch engines for a single season if they quit.
We just have to wait and see what their plan is. I don't have a lot of hope that they will stay considering how they're not doing much this year outside of SuperGT and/or Blancpain, and especially if this season starts out bad.It wouldn't have been a single season if they had prepared the engine before hand which many thought they might have been preparing for. Though two seasons dont make it any better too so I see your point.
it goes on and on over the years, to the dumbest ass decision of dumping T8 for being too red at the end of 2009.
reminds me of the WRC VWs.
I believe in the Commodore/Camaro thread, there is mention of the ZB being discontinued, because of the Opel/Peugeot thing.Interesting that the article refers to it (although maybe not terribly surprising) as the "last Commodore".