2021 FIA Series Race Discussion

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Slot 1: Started 11th after messing up my one slipstream qualifying lap by messing up the hairpin with a small slide. Finished 15th after getting dived every single lap.

Slot 2: Qualified 14th after again messing up the hairpin on every attempt, then getting divebombed by a certain top driver known for being a 🤬 on the one lap I got the hairpin right. Managed to claw my way up to 11th after initially losing a few spots at the hairpin on the opening couple of laps.

Slot 3: Qualified 14th again after I couldn't find a slipstream partner and had to just set a solo lap before time ran out. This time I ran BB -3 when the previous races I was at 0 and -1, and I found that unless I got braking perfect, I would slide the rear and kill my momentum at the hairpin. With BB at -3 I got what felt like as good of a lap as i could get without slipstream. This time the lead pack on the last lap was 11 cars after the front 6 initially broke away, but I guess they fought too much and brought most of the rest of the field back together. I worked my way up to 7th on the final lap and thought I was safe from a dive going into the hairpin, so I was focusing on trying to get a good exit out of the hairpin and potentially pick up a couple more spots as those in front fought. I still got divebombed as 9th took it 3 wide from a long way back and shoved 8th into me, knocking me wide and allowing both of them to get by me. I finished 9th, less than 3s from the winner, with 213 points. I would've liked 7th, but this makes 3 scores of over 200 points for me in Nation's, so I'm content. I wasn't going to go again anyway considering how much of this race relied on good luck.
 
While the lag issues have been a thing in the Manufacturers Series this season, I had a really bad issue with frame rate during the Nations Cup Mini race at Miyabi this last weekend. I don't recall ever having frame rate drop in an online race before...

The connection indicator was good... 4 green bars for this race, but the frame rate drop during the first few laps was really off-putting.

Does that happen to others? I'm running a PS4 Pro, on a HD copy of the game, with a hybrid SSD/HD that is only 30% full and I'm on an ethernet connection with 150 MBps speed. After a year and a half of playing the game, have not seen that before.
 
KosmoKazi
While the lag issues have been a thing in the Manufacturers Series this season, I had a really bad issue with frame rate during the Nations Cup Mini race at Miyabi this last weekend. I don't recall ever having frame rate drop in an online race before...

The connection indicator was good... 4 green bars for this race, but the frame rate drop during the first few laps was really off-putting.

Does that happen to others? I'm running a PS4 Pro, on a HD copy of the game, with a hybrid SSD/HD that is only 30% full and I'm on an ethernet connection with 150 MBps speed. After a year and a half of playing the game, have not seen that before.
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I noticed Saturday doing daily B several times frame drop that I very very rarely if ever have seen.
I experienced it in several lobbies with large amounts of players from Argentina.
I also noticed my ping on the network test varied a bit on Saturday as well, when I looked early in the day opposed to late in the day.
Monday evening again on B race racing in lobbies with top NA players at the front the frame rate was excellent and tbh the ffb was very lively, indeed.
I only play in sport mode. I haven’t raced in a lobby or offline in a looooong time.
To me sport mode always feels better.
I definitely have noticed some weird things in sport mode lately though.
On Panorama, the car in sixth at the start didnt throttle and fell to about eleventh before turn one, then all of a sudden was behind me in second.
I have it on video it triggered blue flags for everyone the first lap...Bizarre.

Also I was disconnected twice in the last couple weeks, that’s never happened to me before.
 
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SpeedStarGTS
I don't really remember what happen in Race 1 and 2, don't care i wont bother check because Race 3 was awesome

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You happen to have captured the race (which was my 2nd) where an incident took place and had my experience ruined. I got myself a penalty for not keeping my wheels on the kerb on the final turn, but after beginning Lap 4, after the first turn, you can see said nasty player run me off (3:50 in the video), but thankfully karma paid him a visit by the end of Lap 9 (8:54 in the video). Apparently they were causing trouble throughout all five slots of this Nations Cup race.
 
Had a good practice race for Weds. I think the Slophy is a solid choice. I was able to set times within a few tenths of @LVS_1986 which would not normally be possible. Kept up with him in the race too until the tyres started to go off and my times dropped. Though snuck past when he went to the beach.
 
elston87
You happen to have captured the race (which was my 2nd) where an incident took place and had my experience ruined. I got myself a penalty for not keeping my wheels on the kerb on the final turn, but after beginning Lap 4, after the first turn, you can see said nasty player run me off (3:50 in the video), but thankfully karma paid him a visit by the end of Lap 9 (8:54 in the video). Apparently they were causing trouble throughout all five slots of this Nations Cup race.
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Yeah that guy was a menace, Late blocking, diving and bump ppl out of their racing. i encounter him many time before things never really end well for him, you would think that would have change the way he race -_-
 
KosmoKazi
While the lag issues have been a thing in the Manufacturers Series this season, I had a really bad issue with frame rate during the Nations Cup Mini race at Miyabi this last weekend. I don't recall ever having frame rate drop in an online race before...

The connection indicator was good... 4 green bars for this race, but the frame rate drop during the first few laps was really off-putting.

Does that happen to others? I'm running a PS4 Pro, on a HD copy of the game, with a hybrid SSD/HD that is only 30% full and I'm on an ethernet connection with 150 MBps speed. After a year and a half of playing the game, have not seen that before.
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Yes noticed it coming out of the pits in warm up and qualifying. And it was bad at the start of the race too. Weird - first time I have noticed it too. And also on PS4 Pro, wired and stable connection (70mbps I think, pretty good for semi-rural UK).

In contrast the Yaris race the next day was completely fine and was also a 20 car grid start.
 
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D_Dragline
Done a few test races. I’ll likely run the Slophy. The Scirocco has better single lap pace but the Slophy’s tyre wear advantage and speed off the line should see it more than hold its own. All the cars I’ve tested are within 2 seconds of each other in total race time.
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OJBrit
Had a good practice race for Weds. I think the Slophy is a solid choice. I was able to set times within a few tenths of @LVS_1986 which would not normally be possible. Kept up with him in the race too until the tyres started to go off and my times dropped. Though snuck past when he went to the beach.
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I was gonna go VW but after watching @Mistah_MCA 's video, Gonna go Slophy. Tire management is night and day different against everything else i've tested. Yeah, I'm a half-second quicker in the Scirocco but not for all 12 laps. I'm not a fan of FF cars but I need a strong result after my last couple of races.
 
Photodave219
I was gonna go VW but after watching @Mistah_MCA 's video, Gonna go Slophy. Tire management is night and day different against everything else i've tested. Yeah, I'm a half-second quicker in the Scirocco but not for all 12 laps. I'm not a fan of FF cars but I need a strong result after my last couple of races.
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Yeah. I was on pace for a race 10 second quicker until lap 9. Those last 4 laps I was losing so much time with the VW that it immediately made that a no go.

The Renault is a good car for this race. Very neutral handling means good tire wear. Just it’s not the fastest. Though, I hope being a Nations race, people don’t test as much, and I can snag a solid finish due to those picking the FF car.
 
Photodave219
I was gonna go VW but after watching @Mistah_MCA 's video, Gonna go Slophy. Tire management is night and day different against everything else i've tested. Yeah, I'm a half-second quicker in the Scirocco but not for all 12 laps. I'm not a fan of FF cars but I need a strong result after my last couple of races.
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I might be wavering on this choice. I'm starting to lean toward the Vantage. I drive it in Manu and I'm currently doing better race time in it than the Slophy. I'll do some more Slophy practice tonight to see if it's just familiarity with the car.

I will definitely NOT be driving the VW. The understeer combined with the tyre wear just make it a wholly unenjoyable experience.
 
KosmoKazi
While the lag issues have been a thing in the Manufacturers Series this season, I had a really bad issue with frame rate during the Nations Cup Mini race at Miyabi this last weekend. I don't recall ever having frame rate drop in an online race before...

The connection indicator was good... 4 green bars for this race, but the frame rate drop during the first few laps was really off-putting.

Does that happen to others? I'm running a PS4 Pro, on a HD copy of the game, with a hybrid SSD/HD that is only 30% full and I'm on an ethernet connection with 150 MBps speed. After a year and a half of playing the game, have not seen that before.
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Yeah I also felt as though I had frame issues in the Mini race, though I just assumed it was my PS4 as it does tend to stutter for me sometimes
 
watto79
I'm completely lost about what the Manufacturers Series is all about now. I have so many questions!
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Basically the same as Nations at this point. It's going to be:

WS1 - 2020 World Final Manufacturers, 2020WF drivers, one driver per team [don't know if this is just the best driver or if it will change]
WS2 - 2020 World Final Manufacturers, 2020WF drivers, one driver per team
WSS - 12 best 2021 FIA Season 1 Manufacturers & drivers, three drivers per team (one per region)
WS3 - WSS Manufacturers, WSS drivers, one driver per team
WS4 - WSS Manufacturers, WSS drivers, one driver per team
WF - 12 best 2021 FIA Season 2 Manufacturers & drivers, three drivers per team (one per region)

The five WS events give Manufacturer points to carry to WF.
 
watto79
How did the Citroën driver, BFR_Mind, qualify? They weren't a 2020 World Final driver.

I may have missed something. I'm still confused :lol:
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I mentioned it in the article, but I'm really not 100% sure.

In essence, the guys supposed to be there are the 2020 WF drivers - Brooks, Regalado, Mizuno - but it depends on them picking Citroen again this year. Two of the three haven't (Brooks is at Jaguar, Regalado with Aston Martin), so they can't represent Citroen here.

That leaves Mizuno, who has re-signed for Citroen but seems to be missing for some reason. Maybe he can't/couldn't make the date?

I'd assume then that they'd look at the current season to get the next driver in line. That's BFR_Mind but only if the cutoff date for the invitation was either round one or round two. After that, there's a couple of drivers ahead of him.


So my best guess is that.
 
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Pigems
So why is there even an official season if all the WT entrants are already decided on?
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Season 1 decides which drivers go to the World Series Showdown alongside the WS1/WS2 drivers. That then decides which drivers go to WS3/WS4.

Season 2 decides which drivers go to the World Final, alongside the WS3/WS4 drivers.
 

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