2025 Touring Car Thread - BTCC, TCR, and more.Touring Cars 

Three 2nds for Ingram is good for the championship but must sting a bit. Early days but looking like a return to the Ford/Hyundai battles of previous years. The offseason technical changes really haven't helped the BMWs, hopefully they can figure things out fast and get back to the front.

Good to see decent results for Restart & Un-Limited, and very good pace if no luck for One.
 
Are the Ford and Hyundai teams running the TOCA spec engine or are they building their own? I havent followed the series close enough to know who is doing what and why.
 
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Are the Ford and Hyundai teams running the TOCA spec engine or are they building their own? I havent followed the series close enough to know who is doing what and why.
Ford are still using Mountune and Hyundai will keep using Swindon. They're the best engines on the grid so why change currently.

The TOCA M-Sport engines are in One, Unlimited and Power Maxed this season.
 
Sutton will be running a special centenary livery at Brands Indy next time out, and it looks 🔥.


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Great to see a new winner, and nice teamwork by the BMWs to block the road and give him an initial gap off the restart.

He picked well for the reverse grid as well, got Hill on the front row and back on the softs. Really good shot at a BMW lockout for the wins.
 
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Epic race 2, fair play to DeLeon, he played that SC restart to perfection. Really feel for Cammish, he can't catch any luck so far. Also shout out to Rainford, highest places finisher on the hards and he's looked really composed all weekend so far.

Sutton with a great drive to the podium and he'll be fired up for race 3 on the softs.
 
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What was Moffat doing to Sutton? Jeez, I remember the Flak Moffat fans were giving Turk after one little tap in paddock hill a few years ago.

Anyway, good result for the Bimmers this weekend. Can't say I like Moffat or Rainfords aggression, but I'm pleased WSR have found some pace.
 
What was Moffat doing to Sutton? Jeez, I remember the Flak Moffat fans were giving Turk after one little tap in paddock hill a few years ago.

Anyway, good result for the Bimmers this weekend. Can't say I like Moffat or Rainfords aggression, but I'm pleased WSR have found some pace.

It's touring cars, need a bit of aggression otherwise it gets dull very quickly. Not as if Sutton has clean hands anyway, Moffat just racing him like he races others.
 
YouTube today recommended FULL RACES: BTCC Round 4, 5 and 6 @ Brands Hatch 2025 from ITV Sport to my great surprise. I have seen that they carry the quali live on YouTube and all 6 races so far are available now in full here:



Apparently, we can watch it here in the US somewhere live, as well but I'm less concerned about it when it's available like this. I watched race 1 from Donington... man, just like I remember the BTCC from the '90 Supertouring era when I watched it on Eurosport (cars thundering down through the Craner Curves is particularly etched into my mind), great battles, constant action, some body-to-body contact... yes, this is touring car racing. I do have some issues, mainly I don't necessarily recognize the cars or the drivers :) I haven't followed BTCC for decades now, so name recognition is part of that. Cars not recognized comes from the fact that we live in the US and barely visit Europe. OK. I've been to Spain 3 times in the last 13 months but seeing a car on the highway in a normal color vs. on a screen in a wild livery battling with a bunch of other cars is a bit different :D

I have some trouble recognizing the Focus (I loved the Mk1 and Mk2, had a Mk2 ST in Germany for ~2 years) but the current one isn't in the US, same with the Astra and the Cupra. The Corolla and the Civic are easy though, just like the Hyundai - honestly, I think the i30 Fastback N looks better than the Elantra N we have here, both as a street car and as a race car. I preferred the Veloster TCR over the Elantra TCR but that's maybe just me. As a long time BMW fan I'm happy that at least in the BTCC we still have RWD presence, although from the front the blacked-out grill isn't really helpful to figure out what I'm looking at. Not a fan of the G20, it's become waaaaay to big and I've seen them raced only in NLS (like the #150 in NLS 2023) and in the BTCC - pretty sure there are other places I'm just not aware. I still with BMW would have made a proper RWD 4-door based in the F22, would have bought one instead of the A3 Sedan... (for me BMW represents peak touring car racing, and the right size of cars were the 2002, E21, and E30 - the E36 is borderline, the E46 and the E90 are still somewhat OK but I'd stop at the E36). So yeah, awesome racing, it's super that it's now available on YouTube, I guess I just need to work on recognizing cars and drivers (in TCR the cars a bit easier but sadly there's no RWD there due to regulations).
 
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Only racers I heard of are Sutton, Hamilton and Moffat. I’ve been out of the loop for so long I just don’t know the latest drivers.
The cars do look better than the Super 2000(?) era- The Vauxhall Astras and MGs that had the over fenders. It was fun to race those cars in the ToCA games, but the designs weren’t the best.

This is peak modern BMW(before and after E46) touring sedan to me. Though it is long, the proportions, stance and fore & aft lighting details are perfect.
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What series is this F30 from?
A South African Production car series. It was a small field of BMWs and Audi A4s with a lower class of Golfs and MINIs.


I think the only other series, outside of Europe, that ran the F30 was in IMSA. Loved the bimmerworld 328s.
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