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http://www.wftv.com/news/3469590/detail.html

Go read that, then come back here. I myself think all those criminal charges are complete and total BS, the boy agreed to have sex when asked, I personally don't see any form of rape there. This is just one of the reasons I hate the USA with all my humanly power, the government and parents are too overprotective. Everyone is so shocked when a 14 year old and an "Adult" have sex, but when that same 14 year old is 2 years older no one thinks anything of it. I'm really sick and tired of everyone treating teenagers like infants just because of the stereotype irresonsible teen, I myself am 15 and am much more mature(usualy) then most 17 year olds I here about. I'm really thinking of moving to Euorope now, America is just the worst place to be nowadays, but I'm not ruleing Japan out either, both are countries that place trust and responsiblility in young people, something that the US should do as well.
 
So what do you suggest the age to legally have sex should be? 11? 12? 10? If 14 is a good age, then why can't someone who is only 2 years younger have sex with a 23 year old? There has to be an age limit in place. You can't have 9 year olds having sex with 29 year olds.

Forget about the ages in this story for a moment. It is completely unacceptable for a teacher to have sex with her student. Especially in a moving car with a 15 year old driving.
 
Klostrophobic
So what do you suggest the age to legally have sex should be? 11? 12? 10? If 14 is a good age, then why can't someone who is only 2 years younger have sex with a 23 year old? There has to be an age limit in place. You can't have 9 year olds having sex with 29 year olds.

Forget about the ages in this story for a moment. It is completely unacceptable for a teacher to have sex with her student. Especially in a moving car with a 15 year old driving.
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I would think sexual maturity would have something to do with this limit, and that it should be left up to the person to make the choice. And as far as the people involved, the 15 year old probably had a permit and the teacher was not at work, to top it all off the student agreed to have sex with the teacher, I see absolutly no problem with any of this except for a christian country.
 
So if a 5 year old declares himself sexually mature, he can have sex with a 23 year old?

If I go up to a newborn and ask it if it would like to have sex, and it smiles back at me and nods, is that cool?

I only ask these ridiculous questions to show you that your argument is ridiculous.
 
The thing in that case is that I have a hard time trying to believe this will have any bad effect on the teenager... What, he felt like he was forced into this? Yeah right, I bet he found her quite attractive, enjoyed it a lot and was 100% willing to do it, and either decided to get something in return for not reporting it, wich he didn't get, or he got caught because of bragging about it to everyone around. I know strict enforcement of such laws are to prevent cases of abuse, but I don't see how the poor little guy has been abused there. There's no question on the illegality of her actions, but I don't think the law was created to adress cases like that.
 
Klostrophobic
So if a 5 year old declares himself sexually mature, he can have sex with a 23 year old?

If I go up to a newborn and ask it if it would like to have sex, and it smiles back at me and nods, is that cool?

I only ask these ridiculous questions to show you that your argument is ridiculous.
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It's not up to the individual to declare themselves sexualy mature, it's up to scientific fact. that is also the answer to your second question. And I totaly agree with JPM here, hell the kid probably did most of the work.
 
So you want every single person to be declared sexually mature by science?

Please define sexual maturity.

Let's just assume that a 10 year old is sexual mature. Is it OK for him to boink a 72 year old guy?
 
Klostrophobic
So you want every single person to be declared sexually mature by science?

Please define sexual maturity.

Let's just assume that a 10 year old is sexual mature. Is it OK for him to boink a 72 year old guy?
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The state or quality of being mature.

And please answer this, why is it that if a woman has sex with ten men in one night she is a slut but when a man does the same to ten women he is a sex god?
 
It's not up to the individual to declare themselves sexualy mature, it's up to scientific fact.
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I wouldn't go as far as this though, I think recently a 9 or 10 year old russian girl had a baby after sleeping with a neighbor (which suddenly disappeared from the map, I wonder why...), and I wouldn't see this is as acceptable in any way. But at 14, many of my friends were already having an active sexual life, so I don't see a big deal with a 14 year old guy sleeping with a 23 year old girl, if he was willing to do it.
 
I meant it as more of a puberty thing, a 9 year old can have a baby, but a 14 year old will have the instincts to care for that baby. But in reality a line can never be drawn, as all people reach maturity at different ages. many people will tell you that child rape applies to all people under 18, but the fact is child rape means just that, rape against a child. 14 year olds are children no more than 30 year olds are, it all comes down to the fact that almost everything is determined by religion, which is also completely wrong. My religion is that whoever made us made us with free will, and that we should use that free will in a good way.
 
heero 12
The state or quality of being mature.

And please answer this, why is it that if a woman has sex with ten men in one night she is a slut but when a man does the same to ten women he is a sex god?
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So sexual maturity is the state or quality of being mature.

That's like saying stupidity is the state or quality of being stupid.
 
heero 12
The state or quality of being mature.

And please answer this, why is it that if a woman has sex with ten men in one night she is a slut but when a man does the same to ten women he is a sex god?
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It's easier for a woman to get laid, duh?
 
heero 12
it all comes down to the fact that almost everything is determined by religion, which is also completely wrong. My religion is that whoever made us made us with free will, and that we should use that free will in a good way.
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It's a question of morals, not of religion. If it were of religion, divorce would be illegal... :dunce:
 
heero 12
I meant it as more of a puberty thing, a 9 year old can have a baby, but a 14 year old will have the instincts to care for that baby. But in reality a line can never be drawn, as all people reach maturity at different ages. many people will tell you that child rape applies to all people under 18, but the fact is child rape means just that, rape against a child. 14 year olds are children no more than 30 year olds are, it all comes down to the fact that almost everything is determined by religion, which is also completely wrong. My religion is that whoever made us made us with free will, and that we should use that free will in a good way.
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A 14 year old isn't a child? Is a 13 year old? A 12 year old? 11? 10? 9? 8?

You HAVE to draw a line somewhere.
 
I see your point Klos, but I what I don't see is the harm done here. At 14, thanks to some hormones bursts, I was dreaming about a night with Claudia Schiffer... and she was 22.
 
OK, turn it around. Do you find it a bit weird for a 22 yeard old man to have sex with a 14 year old teenage girl?

Hell, when I was 14 I would have loved to play hide the salami with a hot 22 year old.
 
The problem isn't the kid dreaming of the older women, its of the older woman dreaming of the young kid.

And just because you had dreams of Claudia doesn't make you sexually mature.
 
Yeah, there's definitely something wrong with having sex with a 14 year old when you're 23.

Hell, I'm 18 and can't imagine having sex with anyone under 17. It would just seem weird. My little sister is 14.
 
:lol: Wow, I didn't read the article but judging from some or most of the comments said here those comments are a good reason why they have the law the way it is. BTW, I know it's harsh and there's not an easy way to prevent population growth but have you looked around lately at how many freakin people there are?
 
Well I myself can't imagine anyone who would draw a line at 18, it just seems weird to me. But then again I'd do a 13 year old if she asked me too. And more on topic, I'd rather do it with a 23 year old teacher than be driven by sexual frusturation to rape a 14 year old.
 
:scared: I know it's more of a stereotype but comments like that I have a hard time with. I'm really not sure about kids these days and I fear for them what they are learning especially the internet and t.v. I'm glad I'm not one now because some of the stuff I hear about at those ages I wouldn't even thought of now.
 
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:scared: I know it's more of a stereotype but comments like that I have a hard time with. I'm really not sure about kids these days and I fear for them what they are learning especially the internet and t.v. I'm glad I'm not one now because some of the stuff I hear about at those ages I wouldn't even thought of now.
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Don't be scared of me not living a sheltered life, be scared that there are actually adults that think swearing is bad. What people should do is stop being so shocked when something happens that goes against their morals and start living, because just plain existing is something I never want to do. Hell, I'm 15 and I've seen more porn than Ron Jeremy, but the fact is that now I don't even really like it, whereas I've heard pleanty of stories about young men being obsessed with it.
 
Klostrophobic
OK, turn it around. Do you find it a bit weird for a 22 yeard old man to have sex with a 14 year old teenage girl?

Hell, when I was 14 I would have loved to play hide the salami with a hot 22 year old.
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That's not easy to answer, because of how society sees it, and because of stereotypes. I've seen a case of this a few years ago, where a 15 years old girl was dating a 22 year old teacher, for quite a while (I think they're still together) The girl acts and looks like she was 16-18 years old, and in fact, looking at them and speaking with them, you don't notice the age difference if you don't know it, and it was her who pushed things to happen after she had a crush on him. She managed (don't ask me how) to convince her extremely reluctant parents to accept it instead of bringing the guy to justice. I'm not sure what difference, in that case, that makes if she's playing with his sausage instead of a 15 year old boy sausage? Exactly what harm (apart from judgement of peers) is done to her that way?

this is indeed an exception, and there are laws to protect manipulating sexual predators and avoid the case of adults abusing the innocence of a child or a teenager, but for borderline cases such as this, It's hard to judge where it's wrong and when it's not, and each case is relative.
 
heero 12
Well I myself can't imagine anyone who would draw a line at 18, it just seems weird to me. But then again I'd do a 13 year old if she asked me too. And more on topic, I'd rather do it with a 23 year old teacher than be driven by sexual frusturation to rape a 14 year old.
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Did you not just say a few posts ago that it depends on people's sexual maturity? What the hell makes you think every 13 is sexually mature? Scratch that, what makes you think ANY 13 year old is sexually mature mentally?

Even you sure as hell don't sound sexually mature mentally if you could say the above statement.

And who brought up raping 14 year olds?
 
heero 12
Don't be scared of me not living a sheltered life, be scared that there are actually adults that think swearing is bad. What people should do is stop being so shocked when something happens that goes against their morals and start living, because just plain existing is something I never want to do. Hell, I'm 15 and I've seen more porn than Ron Jeremy, but the fact is that now I don't even really like it, whereas I've heard pleanty of stories about young men being obsessed with it.
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Jesus... :ouch:

Guess what cochise... NOT EVERYONE SHARES YOUR MORALS, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO EITHER. They have the right to believe what they want to believe, and you have no room to try and force your moral values upon everyone.

The age limit set by law is a consensus that the majority (see: 99%) can agree on as to what is the line between right and wrong.

Just because you think you're mature for your age doesn't mean the rules should be changed just for you.
 
Alright, I can see where this is going and closing it before a mod does. But may I just say this, if no physical or emotional harm is done to either of the two parties involved how is it a bad thing?
 
Because there's no way of predicting that there will be no emotional or physical scaring beforehand.

Speeding leaves no emotional or physical scars, but its still illegal.

And you can't lock a thread, genius... :dunce:
 
I won't post it here but if you search a bit the official report(which is far too much detailed for these forums) tells exactly what I thougt about how it happened, and he simply got caught by his mother because of his friend bragging about it. He indeed enjoyed it, and was willing to do it. But I guess all the fuss around this made life worst for him than what they did togheter.

Apart from enraging his mother, could somene describe me what harm has she done to this guy? Also what's so different from him sleeping with a 14 year old girl, bearing in mind that it never was anything related to a love story?
 

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