2500 BHP Mosler 'Land Shark'

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I think this may be the only car costing more than $20,000 where I wouldn't say "I'd drive that." :scared:
 
I'd really like to hear Warren Mosler's thoughts on this guy claiming the car he built can be taken even much further. Warren already stated that he lives for lightweight racing, and spends thousands of dollars finding areas to save weight & increase performance.

So, where on earth did this company find a way to drop 500 lbs. AND boost the power up an astonishing 1,900 horsepower?! I mean, I know it's a LS7 engine, but c'mon.
 
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I'd really like to hear Warren Mosler's thoughts on this guy claiming the car he built can be taken even much further. Warren already stated that he lives for lightweight racing, and spends thousands of dollars finding areas to save weight & increase performance.

So, where on earth did this company find a way to drop 500 lbs. AND boost the power up an astonishing 1,900 horsepower?! I mean, I know it's a LS7 engine, but c'mon.

Replacing anything an everything they can with either Carbon fiber or Titanium parts. How there getting 1900HP from a LS7 is beside me, probably has 2 turbos the size of civics.
 
Replacing anything an everything they can with either Carbon fiber or Titanium parts. How there getting 1900HP from a LS7 is beside me, probably has 2 turbos the size of civics.
The body is a carbon fibre chassis to begin with, and Warren has already done as much as possible to achieve the weight.

He even built a Photon package that causes the MT900S to become 1,980lbs.
The MT900S is already 2,200lbs. itself. I can't imagine the XX model to weigh that much more.

BTW, interesting things from a bigger article.
Here's where the story gets a little suspicious, and no offense to Gocha is meant by this. After all, Gocha has to realize that there will be skeptics when a relative unknown claims to have put something like this together. We all know that the GTR XX uses the GM LS7 engine which powers the Corvette. Gocha says his car utilizes an engine with a 381 cubic inch plant generating an unbelievable 2,500 horsepower, in part thanks to the twin turbos. We instantly thought that the engine he was using was the LSX from GM Performance Parts, which is capable of handling that kind of horsepower. However, the spec sheet says the block is from billet aluminum while the LSX is made of cast iron. He says his engine uses a 3.000" stroke and 4.500" bore, which would actually be a 382 cu. inch plant. His billet aluminum engine block and cylinder head has four injectors of varying sizes per cylinder, combined with racing fuel pumps capable of delivering six gallons (22.7 liters) per minute. Apparently, you can go really really fast in this car, just not for long. The engine also makes generous use of ceramic, titanium, and carbon to keep the weight down.
Intense Automotive Design also claims to have developed an all-wheel-drive system of titanium and carbon fiber, matching the all-titanium suspension system. Carbon fiber Dymag wheels have a magnesium center, and uses titanium lug nuts to attach to the car. Front wheels measure 11.5x19", with bigger 14x20" rear wheels. With all that effort going in to weight savings, you wonder why an Alpine 7.1 Dolby Digital DVD system would be included. The In-Car PC and GPS also adds weight.

1 more thing. If this car is drinking 6 gallons per minute (at what speed anyway?), I wonder if anyone can compare it to the Veyron's tank at 250Mph to see if the Land Shark is even capable of running 300Mph without running out of gas beforehand. Seriously, this thing must really have large fuel tanks if it can drink 6 gallons/minute & still run 300Mph.

And even more 1 last thing. The complete full specs. 140 liters combined & 22.7 liters/minute....
2009 MOSLER MT900

ENGINE SPECS:
381 CUBIC INCHES
2,500+ HP 10,000 RPM TWIN TURBOCHARGED TERROR
MULTI-FUEL SYSTEM: GASOLINE/METHANOL/HYDROGEN/ETHANOL
3.000" STROKE WITH 4.500" BORE
2-MOTEC M880 DIGITAL ENGINE MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS
IAD BILLET CNC BILLET ALUMINUM BLOCK
IAD CERAMIC ROLLER-BEARING CRANKSHAFT AND CAMSHAFT BEARINGS
IAD/BRYANT/KEITH BLACK 4330 KNIFE EDGED, ULTRA-LIGHT ROLLER-BEARING CRANKSHAFT
IAD CNC BILLET TITANIUM CONNECTING RODS
IAD/COSWORTH CERAMIC COATED FORGED PISTONS
IAD 4340 1.000" DIAMETER .300" WALL THICKNESS PISTON PINS
1/16-INCH CHILD'S & ALBERT CHROMOLY RINGS
IAD 4-VALVE BILLET CNC ALUMINUM/CERAMIC CYLINDER HEADS
IAD CERAMIC COMBUSTION CHAMBERS & EXHAUST PORTS; BERYLLIUM SEATS
IAD CUSTOM LASER CUT HEAD GASKETS, O-RINGED CYLINDER HEADS
IAD CUSTOM O-RINGED INTAKE MANIFOLD AND CYLINDER HEAD INTAKE SURFACES
IAD/JESEL TITANIUM ROLLER ROCKERS WITH SOLID TITANIUM GIRDLE
IAD/JESEL 3-PIECE .160" WALL TAPERED 9/16 "-1/2" MODULAR PUSH RODS
IAD/CROWER PINNED 1.000" DIAMETER ROLLER LIFTERS
IAD CERAMIC COATED 2.00" TITANIUM INTAKE VALVES, 1.75" INCONEL® EXHAUST VALVES
JESEL TRIPLE VALVE SPRINGS, TITANIUM RETAINERS, 4340 LOCKS
IAD BILLET CNC TITANIUM/CARBON VALVE COVERS, POLISHED
IAD TITANIUM ROLLER CAMSHAFT WITH CERAMIC ROLLER CAM BEARINGS
IAD/JESEL BELT DRIVE CAMSHAFT TO CRANK TIMING, WITH TITANIUM GEARS
IAD CNC BILLET TITANIUM/CARBON MACHINED TIMING COVER
IAD HARMONIC DAMPENER WITH INTEGRAL CRANK TRIGGER PICKUP
IAD BILLET TITANIUM/CARBON DUAL ELECTRIC WATER PUMPS
ALL TITANIUM ENGINE HARDWARE

INDUCTION SYSTEM:
IAD CNC CARBON FIBER/TITANIUM INTER-COOLED INTAKE MANIFOLD
4-INJECTORS PER CYLINDER (2) 150 LB., (1) 90LB., AND (1) 60LB.
2-WELDON 34706 6+ GPM MECHANICAL RACING FUEL PUMPS
2-AEROMOTIVE 16302 BILLET FUEL PUMP SPEED CONTROLLERS
4-WELDON A2047 SERIES, HIGH FLOW 10+ GPM BYPASS REGULATORS
2-OCTANE ON DEMAND SYSTEMS
2-IAD DIGITALLY CONTROLLED INTEGRAL FUEL PRESSURE REGULATORS, 2500 CFM
RUSSELL'S BRAIDED STEEL FUEL LINES WITH AN FITTINGS
2-88MM IAD/AEROTECH WATER COOLED CERAMIC BALL BEARING TURBO CHARGERS
2-IAD/MOTEC 65MM PROTOTYPE ELECTRONICALLY CONTROLLED WASTE GATES
IAD TITANIUM EXHAUST HEADERS, FLANGES, V-BANDS
IAD TITANIUM EXHAUST SYSTEM
IAD TITANIUM HI-FLOW CATALYTIC CONVERTERS, MUFFLERS, MOUNTS, HARDWARE

LUBRICATION SYSTEM:
IAD CNC TITANIUM DRY SUMP OIL SYSTEM CAPACITY = 20 LITERS
IAD/MOROSO 5-STAGE DRY SUMP OILING SYSTEM
IAD/MOROSO TITANIUM BILLET OIL PUMP DRIVE
RUSSELL'S BRAIDED STEEL OIL LINES WITH AN FITTINGS
2-IAD CUSTOM HI-VOLUME OIL COOLERS

IGNITION/ELECTRONICS SYSTEM:
IAD/MOTEC FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
IAD/MOTEC M880 ENGINE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM (DUAL M880 UNITS)
IAD/MOTEC CRANK FIRED IGNITION SYSTEM
MOTEC ON-STEERING-WHEEL MOUNTED HORSEPOWER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM
IAD/MOTEC POWER CONTROL SYSTEM, VARIABLE FROM 800 TO 2,500+ HORSEPOWER
MOTEC ON-STEERING-WHEEL DIGITAL BRAKE BIAS CONTROL
MOTEC ON-STEERING-WHEEL ACTIVE SUSPENSION CONTROL
MOTEC ON -STEERING-WHEEL 12-STAGE DIGITAL FUEL INJECTION CONTROL
IAD/MOTEC CARBON FIBER DIGITAL STEERING WHEEL WITH INTEGRAL DIGITAL CONTROLS
IAD PROTOTYPE 8-SPEED PADDLE SHIFTERS, WITH QUICK-RELEASE
MOTEC PIT-LANE SPEED CONTROL BUTTON
CUSTOM ALPINE 7.1 DOLBY DIGITAL A/V/DVD/MOTEC EMS DISPLAY
LOWRANCE GPS WITH FRONT, REAR, SIDE, 360 DEGREE SKYTM RADAR TRACKING SYSTEM
IN-CAR PCTM MOBILE INTEL CORE 2 DUO 2.33 GHZ
3.5G MOBILE INTERNET 7.2 MBPS

TRANSMISSION SYSTEM:
IAD PROTOTYPE TITANIUM/CARBON FIBER ALL-WHEEL-DRIVE SYSTEM
TRACTION CONTROL BY MOTEC
IAD CNC BILLET TITANIUM 8-SPEED TRANS-AXLE
QUICK-CHANGE GEAR-BOX, 30 SETS OF TRACK GEARS
WELDON K9200-A HIGH TEMP TRANS & AWD OIL PUMP
RUSSELL'S BRAIDED STEEL OIL LINES
IAD TRANSMISSION AND FRONT DIFFERENTIAL COOLERS

SUSPENSION/BRAKING SYSTEM:
ALL TITANIUM SUSPENSION COMPONENTS
PENSKE 3-WAY ADJUSTABLE RACING SHOCKS
FULLY ADJUSTABLE FRONT AND REAR AND SWAY BARS
CNC MACHINED SOLID DELRINTM SUSPENSION BUSHINGS
CARBON FIBER/CERAMIC 400MM DIAMETER BRAKE ROTORS
8-PISTON, LIQUID COOLED, CNC BILLET CALIPERS

AERODYNAMICS:
FRONT SPLITTER FOR MAXIMUM DOWN-FORCE
FRONT LEFT AND RIGHT DUAL DIVE PLANES
LEFT AND RIGHT SIDE POD AIR INTAKES AND OUTLETS FOR OPTIMAL COOLING
ROOF CANOPY AIR-INTAKE WITH SCOOP
MID UPPER BODY SECTION LEFT AND RIGHT AIR INTAKES
FLAT BELLY PAN WITH FULL LENGTH AIR DUCTING CHANNEL FOR MAXIMUM DOWN FORCE
REAR DECK LID SIDE VENTS
REAR FULLY ADJUSTABLE CARBON FIBER REAR WING

WHEELS:
DYMAG CARBON FIBER, MAGNESIUM CENTER, TITANIUM LUG NUTS
FRONT 11.5" X 19"
REAR 14" X 20"

TIRES:
MICHELIN PILOT SPORT 2
FRONT 285/35R19 PS2
REAR 345/30R20 PS2

****PIT:
ALL INTERIOR SURFACES ARE POLISHED, CLEAR COATED, CARBON FIBER
CUSTOM PROTOTYPE DESIGN CARBON FIBER SEATS
SCHROTH TITANIUM 6-POINT SEAT BELTS
DUAL CARBON FIBER FUEL CELLS FOR FUEL/METHANOL
REGISTERED AS A "HYBRID" VEHICLE DUE TO THE MULTI-FUEL ENGINE....
I WILL GET TO DRIVE IN THE DIAMOND LANE..... HA! HA! HA!
FUEL CAPACITY, GASOLINE = 100 LITRES
FUEL CAPACITY, METHANOL= 40 LITRES

ALL VEHICLE COMPONENTS (EXCEPT A VERY FEW INTERNAL ENGINE PARTS) ARE CARBON FIBER, KEVLAR, AND TITANIUM
...... NO OTHER MATERIALS USED .......

THE TRENTEK CHASSIS IS THE WORLD'S STIFFEST, LIGHTEST AND MOST COST EFFICIENT CAR CHASSIS. MADE OF COMPOSITE CARBON FIBER/HONEYCOMB KEVLAR, THE TRENTEK CHASSIS FOR THE MT900 WEIGHS IN UNDER 90LBS, (LESS ENGINE, TRANS, WIRING, SUSPENSION, ETC.) AND COULD BE PUT TOGETHER, BY HAND, IN APPROXIMATELY 20 MINUTES, ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR AN EXPENSIVE ASSEMBLY LINE. THIS CHASSIS IS OFFERED EXCLUSIVELY THROUGH TRENNE TECHNOLOGIES, INC. AND TEKLAM CORPORATION. VEHICLE WEIGHS 777 KILOS (1,709 LBS.), WITHOUT FUEL

ACTUAL TOP SPEED = 305 MPH+
CFD/FEA CATIA V5R19, THEORETICAL PHYSICAL TOP SPEED = 375 MPH+
CFD/WIND TUNNEL WITH IAD AERODYNAMIC MODIFICATIONS
COMPUTATIONAL FLUID DYNAMICS VERIFIED AERODYNAMICALLY SOUND AT OVER 400 MPH (AFTER EXTENSIVE IAD AERODYNAMIC MODIFICATION)
(CFD/FEA CATIA V5R19 VERIFIED WITH IAD AERODYNAMIC MODIFICATIONS-AERODYNAMICALLY LIMITING VEHICLE TO 305 MPH, WITH REAR WING ATTACHED)

TOP SPEED = 375 MPH+ WITH 118 OCTANE RACING FUEL, WITH IAD AERODYNAMIC MODIFICATIONS
LIMITED TO 305 MPH, WITH REAR WING ATTACHED, GASOLINE/METHANOL FUEL MIX
0-60 MPH = 2.5 SECONDS
0-150 MPH = 6.7 SECONDS
0-250 MPH = 17.5 SECONDS
1/4 MILE = 9.0 SECONDS
1/4 MILE SPEED = 178 MPH
ZERO TO 150 MPH AND BACK TO ZERO = 8.7
BRAKING: 250 MPH TO ZERO IN 8.5 SECONDS
 
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I'd love for these specs to be translated to real-life driving, but, alas, I doubt that very much.
 
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At least it looks good. And I said the only positive statement in the whole thread. :D

Because it's basically... a Mosler? :lol:

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That spec sheet reads like a 13-year old's wet dream. Wouldn't be surprised if that were all it was.
 
Even if they could make such a car street legally, would they even have a dyno that could read that kind of power to prove it?

PS- 2,000hp is the current most powerful, fastest street legal car isn't it? That Vauxhall Victor?
 
Even if they could make such a car street legally, would they even have a dyno that could read that kind of power to prove it?

PS- 2,000hp is the current most powerful, fastest street legal car isn't it? That Vauxhall Victor?

It has been dethroned by a Corvette Stingray :).... 2400 HP street legal 👍

http://www.autojunk.nl/clips/view/152292

http://www.autojunk.nl/clips/view/152409

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Everybody. Look at the guy's last name. It's clearly a joke.
 
Wait a minute...
Did this come out April 1st?

Damnit, we've been delayed-response April Fooled...Gocha = Gotcha
 
Wait a minute...
Did this come out April 1st?

Damnit, we've been delayed-response April Fooled...Gocha = Gotcha

I saw that name and thought the same for a second... but then dismissed it right away.. I dont know why?? Maybe I want to believe this thing is real... :lol:
 
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Wait a minute...
Did this come out April 1st?

Damnit, we've been delayed-response April Fooled...Gocha = Gotcha
If that was so, then original published has failed. April Fool's only work on the 1st, not a quarter into May. 👎
 
Maybe Pistonheads got it late, I dunno. All I know is that a stock LS7 block cannot make 2500 HP. Maybe the built-up Vortec 8100 they use in NHRA Pro-stock cars, with boost (or a IHRA Mountain Motor without) but not the LS7.

I'm gonna look for this company's site. See if there's anything more to this...

EDIT: Uh...no site. but plenty of coverage, even by M/T. Strangely, this ALSO seems to be their FIRST product. Also found specs..."Billet Aluminum block." Okay, so you're gonna machine water passages in there? and there's gonna be a helluva lot of boost with around...what was it, 360 CI? I'd go 500, at least...

You'd think they have their own site and have had a few products before this...either this is a severely misguided rich guy, or a joke...

EDIT2: apparently, there's a REAL John Gocha, and he works in Hollywood as a tech director or actor. on really small films....

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0323665/

For some reason, I doubt this guy has the money to build a pro-mod Mosler
 
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UPDATE:

Befuddled as I am, I decided to contact Mosler directly regarding this vehicle. surprisingly, I just got a pair of replies. The first was from Mr. Mosler himself.

Warren Mosler via E-Mail
Seen the sites as well.

All we know is that we did sell that car to a buyer in California.

It was a very, very nice car as delivered.

And I'd be very impressed if he actually did what he claims he did, particularly the weight reduction.

Warren

The second was from the GM and VP of Global Operations at Mosler...which sheds some light on the current state of the "Land Shark."

E-mail
This vehicle is currently at Corvette Mike's for a warranty repair. The engine is still stock as delivered and no weight reductions appear to have been made other than changing out the steering wheel (that contained an airbag when delivered) and changing to drilled/slotted rotors.


Thank you,
Jill Wagner
GM and VP of Global Operations

So...apparently...the "Land Shark," at least, right now, is just brakes and a steering wheel, but at least we know that it does seem to be real in some sense, that there truly is a company who is trying to build the car up. How close they'll get to their goals, I do not know.
 
Wait a sec...how much horsepower?! 2500?! Now THAT'S what I call power. Bet you Top Gear will get their hands on it and the Stig will probably get overkilled at least 6 times. Especially judging by those stats.
 
So...apparently...the "Land Shark," at least, right now, is just brakes and a steering wheel, but at least we know that it does seem to be real in some sense, that there truly is a company who is trying to build the car up. How close they'll get to their goals, I do not know.
I don't consider a new steering wheel & brakes as beginning to build a vehicle up b/c I don't see the sense in modifying things like that when they're already "planning" to put in a new chassis, AWD system, and so forth.
 
I heard information, which was said to have come through a source at the Mosler Factory in Florida, that Warren Mosler, and Todd Wagner have been in negotiations with the company everyone has been talking about, regarding the possible sale of the Mosler car factory. Yes, the IAD company really does exists.

I also heard information about this guys soon to be hyper-Mosler, and how some editor twisted the entire story around, telling others that the car in question was already built, when in fact it was getting ready for the modifications. And yes, the car was known to be at a Mosler dealer, in so-cal, getting some repairs done. From the photos on the web, looks like the solid Wilwood rotors were replaced with the better performing drilled & slotted rotors. And it looks looks like the factory subaru steering wheel was replaced by an NRG prototype wheel, along with an NRG quik-release hub. Makes good sense to remove the wheel, to keep it from driving away on it's own.

It's amazing how few people actually know what's true or "edited".
It seems this car has really created quite a feeding frenzy.

Personally, I would like to see what becomes of the land shark project, as it would be very interesting to see it completed.

Maybe Pistonheads got it late, I dunno. All I know is that a stock LS7 block cannot make 2500 HP. Maybe the built-up Vortec 8100 they use in NHRA Pro-stock cars, with boost (or a IHRA Mountain Motor without) but not the LS7.

I'm gonna look for this company's site. See if there's anything more to this...

EDIT: Uh...no site. but plenty of coverage, even by M/T. Strangely, this ALSO seems to be their FIRST product. Also found specs..."Billet Aluminum block." Okay, so you're gonna machine water passages in there? and there's gonna be a helluva lot of boost with around...what was it, 360 CI? I'd go 500, at least...

You'd think they have their own site..........


http://www.intenseautomotivedesign.com

......with all the technologly available today, it's surpising to see so many people taking about what can't be done. So I guess all the hype about commercial space travel, hydrgen cars and mag-lev technology is impossible too .... LOL !
 
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I heard information, which was said to have come through a source at the Mosler Factory in Florida, that Warren Mosler, and Todd Wagner have been in negotiations with the company everyone has been talking about, regarding the possible sale of the Mosler car factory. Yes, the IAD company really does exists.

I also heard information about this guys soon to be hyper-Mosler, and how some editor twisted the entire story around, telling others that the car in question was already built, when in fact it was getting ready for the modifications. And yes, the car was known to be at a Mosler dealer, in so-cal, getting some repairs done. From the photos on the web, looks like the solid Wilwood rotors were replaced with the better performing drilled & slotted rotors. And it looks looks like the factory subaru steering wheel was replaced by an NRG prototype wheel, along with an NRG quik-release hub. Makes good sense to remove the wheel, to keep it from driving away on it's own.

It's amazing how few people actually know what's true or "edited".
It seems this car has really created quite a feeding frenzy.

Personally, I would like to see what becomes of the land shark project, as it would be very interesting to see it completed.




http://www.intenseautomotivedesign.com

......with all the technologly available today, it's surpising to see so many people taking about what can't be done. So I guess all the hype about commercial space travel, hydrgen cars and mag-lev technology is impossible too .... LOL !
No it's a simple question of science, what's being talked about regarding commercial space travel is scientifically possible providing the right desings and materials are used. Do you understand the importance of using the right materials and using them in the right way? A stock LS7 block will not handle this much power nor was it built to.

Even ignoring that, the performance figures being claimed are ridiculous to point of insane for example 0-150mph and back to 0 takes apparently 8.7 seconds yet 0-150 takes 6.7 seconds. I'm sorry but it will take a lot more than 2 seconds to brake from 150mph to a full stop. A top speed of 300mph with 2500bhp may be possible but the weight is not. If anything this car will be heavier than the standard car. An all wheel drive system is not light and will a fair bit of weight to the car. Basically there is no way he can achieve these specs in the manner he is claiming to.
 
I believe the article stated the engine was a CNC Billet block, and not a standard LS7 block (which we all know would fail under very high pressure):crazy:.

Did anyone ever consider the CNC alloy block might use a thick titanium crank girdle like this thin metal one at http://dmperformance.org/new/newpage.html, and maybe something like the deck plate/sleeves (@ $10K to modify a stock LS alloy block) here at http://erlperformance.com/images/stories/techbriefs/ERLcatalogFINAL.pdf

What if an engine had a titanium cage, was placed in a mold, and pressure-cast with a super strong alloy? Think it's impossible? It's totally possible. http://www.tifab.com/raw-material-sales/plate-sheet-bar-billet.htmlThe possibilities are endless. All it takes is time and gobs of $$$

Very interesting hardware ideas.

If you read the IAD specs, you would have seen, that all of the hardware in question is currently obtainable, and all of the modifications can be done, regardless of difficulty and cost. Very expensive, to say the least. http://www.catalogds.com/db/service?domain=aviationmetals&command=locate&category=titanium

The article said the car can use several fuel types.

Factoid: It is totally possible to run on the fuels mentioned in the article, and their is no mystery there. Did you know it is also possible to run on Algae, Ammonia, Hydrogen Peroxide, and many other types of combustive and non-combustive fuels? Many fuels don't actually burn, they chemically react, causing pressure build, which is pressure-contained, and released.

The IAD article mentioned an AWD system, made of carbon fiber and titanium, which is totally realistic. Consider all the jets buzzing around the sky's of our earth. Every single one of them uses hydraulic powered components to keep them in the air. What is the big mystery? Nothing. Now suppose someone were to design an AWD system, comprising of a hydraulic pump, attached to the engine via a gear, shaft or belt drive unit, that pumped hydraulic fluid to the front of a vehicle, through hydraulic lines, which fed a front mounted hydraulic differential, into the front wheels. What if you had four internal wheel mounted hydraulic pump/motors? It would be super light weight, and very sophisticated, and costly. This stuff has already been done.

Mosler had their car designed entirely in CAD, and many thought it to be impossible, to go from a computer program, directly to a production model, without clay modeling, wooden mock-ups etc.. What a great idea!

Below, are some other mega-power engines, which lends one to think that giant horsepower numbers could be achieved, although not for very long, and would require a great deal of maintenance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaJ51RCXX4w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCOBW6Dv5bc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgbnOMFTF_s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyd9O4mHYfc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vzHrOk-PMo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HIx4p8ya0E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBEeo6l3a6s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc-wDqZlup0

Factoid: A Top Fueler may create 10,0000+ horsepower, but only for a few critical seconds, but it makes the numbers. Sure, the Bugatti Veyron is extremely fast, but only for a short while, as the tires begin to fail, and you run out of fuel, and gets hot. The IAD Mosler, when completed, would most undoubtedly fall into the same category, having major issues with tires, fuel and cooling. If a car does get up to such high speeds, special tires would have to be used, especially for running at Bonneville, as the salt is kind of mushy, and the super-wide tires described in the article, would create unwanted drag. Look at all the 300+ MPH open-top roadsters at Bonneville, with almost zero aerodynamic properties, yet they still achieve tremendous terminal velocities, with horsepower figures in a similar range as the IAD Mosler specs. Why can't the Mosler achieve similar speeds, with greatly advanced aerodynamics? It would almost certainly do much, much better.

How many 1000+ horse-powered hot-rods and exotics are driving around on the city streets Worldwide, and do you ever see them using all of their power? Of course not, but it is sure nice to know you have it on tap.

One last thing. What if all the metal and aluminum suspension parts, were replaced with pressure formed titanium or carbon fiber parts instead? You could drastically reduce the weight of the four aluminum uprights, as well as trim the weight way down, by using carbon fiber control arms. You could also drop a great deal of weight if the gear boxes and differential housings (AWD) were made of pressure-cast carbon fiber, instead of cast aluminum. You would still have the metal rotating internals, but perhaps you could replace the metal parts of the gear box and differentials with ceramic parts.

The Mosler is a vehicle way ahead of the times, but not the only one, and if IAD decides to take their car to an extreme level, that will be something to definitely see. It is so easy for many people to judge others, when they really should be paying more attention to what is going on with them, instead of speaking ill of people with incredible ideas. 💡 People said the Wright Bros. and Albert Einstein were nut cases.... People said a lot worse about Issac Asimov and Steven Hawking... People find it all too easy to cut down the visionaries of our times! 🤬

We all should give this project some time, and when IAD gets the car done, I think it will create some revolutionary ideas for future cars, and thats what we're all here for. CARS !

THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX 💡
 
......with all the technologly available today, it's surpising to see so many people taking about what can't be done. So I guess all the hype about commercial space travel, hydrgen cars and mag-lev technology is impossible too .... LOL !

Possible doesn't mean easy or cost-effective. Nobody is doing commercial space travel yet for the non-millionaire/billionaire public because of cost.

Hydrogen cars will likely never happen. The cost of development (and the insanely energy-inefficient nature of hydrogen production) keep pushing them back... other fuel infrastructures will likely mature far before hydrogen... and there's nothing really "wow" about hydrogen. It'll run in an ICE engine without much trouble.

Mag-Levs. Don't get me started on the cost-benefit ratio of Mag-Levs...

Mosler had their car designed entirely in CAD, and many thought it to be impossible, to go from a computer program, directly to a production model, without clay modeling, wooden mock-ups etc.. What a great idea!

Impossible? Everyone (well... almost) designs completely on computer. The clay model stage is only there for such unimportant things as... well... aesthetics and ergonomics. Seeing a design on the screen is quite different from seeing it in the flesh. The only benefit of skipping the mock-up stage at this point is cost-saving.

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I don't doubt you could build a 2500 hp, AWD supercar based on the Mosler with the specs they provided. But I'm not holding my breath waiting for this to come to fruitition.

There's a reason why there's only one "production" vehicle on the planet with 1000 hp. Making big power and big numbers is ridiculously easy from an engineering point of view. Getting such a package to run reliably from day-to-day and stay in one piece is another thing, altogether.

Impossible is not the right word... nothing is really impossible. The big problem is the level of BS in the initial claim. A lot of people have promised to build or have actually built supercars with the big numbers... very few have delivered.
 
There's a reason why there's only one "production" vehicle on the planet with 1000 hp. Making big power and big numbers is ridiculously easy from an engineering point of view. Getting such a package to run reliably from day-to-day and stay in one piece is another thing, altogether.
In which, said car also perfectly ties into your reasoning of cost, of which, said car again, is a non-profit product.

Excellent post. 👍
 
I'm not entirely sure what that video has to to with this landshark, which is quite clearly a load of nonsense and always was.
 
In the world of eco fuels, green tech, and make love to nature...

2500 HP in a car sounds perfectly reasonable.👍
 
In the world of eco fuels, green tech, and make love to nature...

2500 HP in a car sounds perfectly reasonable.👍

Making a 2500hp on a 'green' fuel I perfectly achievable with today technology, even a few decades ago. Suitably packaging such an engine into a road going vehicle capable of 375+ mph, and and making economic sense, is barely less ludicrous than it was 20years ago.

The car was only ever a pipe dream, and the fact it still doesn't exist confirms that.
 
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