Reventón;3393328I'd really like to hear Warren Mosler's thoughts on this guy claiming the car he built can be taken even much further. Warren already stated that he lives for lightweight racing, and spends thousands of dollars finding areas to save weight & increase performance.
So, where on earth did this company find a way to drop 500 lbs. AND boost the power up an astonishing 1,900 horsepower?! I mean, I know it's a LS7 engine, but c'mon.
The body is a carbon fibre chassis to begin with, and Warren has already done as much as possible to achieve the weight.Replacing anything an everything they can with either Carbon fiber or Titanium parts. How there getting 1900HP from a LS7 is beside me, probably has 2 turbos the size of civics.
Here's where the story gets a little suspicious, and no offense to Gocha is meant by this. After all, Gocha has to realize that there will be skeptics when a relative unknown claims to have put something like this together. We all know that the GTR XX uses the GM LS7 engine which powers the Corvette. Gocha says his car utilizes an engine with a 381 cubic inch plant generating an unbelievable 2,500 horsepower, in part thanks to the twin turbos. We instantly thought that the engine he was using was the LSX from GM Performance Parts, which is capable of handling that kind of horsepower. However, the spec sheet says the block is from billet aluminum while the LSX is made of cast iron. He says his engine uses a 3.000" stroke and 4.500" bore, which would actually be a 382 cu. inch plant. His billet aluminum engine block and cylinder head has four injectors of varying sizes per cylinder, combined with racing fuel pumps capable of delivering six gallons (22.7 liters) per minute. Apparently, you can go really really fast in this car, just not for long. The engine also makes generous use of ceramic, titanium, and carbon to keep the weight down.
Intense Automotive Design also claims to have developed an all-wheel-drive system of titanium and carbon fiber, matching the all-titanium suspension system. Carbon fiber Dymag wheels have a magnesium center, and uses titanium lug nuts to attach to the car. Front wheels measure 11.5x19", with bigger 14x20" rear wheels. With all that effort going in to weight savings, you wonder why an Alpine 7.1 Dolby Digital DVD system would be included. The In-Car PC and GPS also adds weight.
2009 MOSLER MT900
ENGINE SPECS:
381 CUBIC INCHES
2,500+ HP 10,000 RPM TWIN TURBOCHARGED TERROR
MULTI-FUEL SYSTEM: GASOLINE/METHANOL/HYDROGEN/ETHANOL
3.000" STROKE WITH 4.500" BORE
2-MOTEC M880 DIGITAL ENGINE MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS
IAD BILLET CNC BILLET ALUMINUM BLOCK
IAD CERAMIC ROLLER-BEARING CRANKSHAFT AND CAMSHAFT BEARINGS
IAD/BRYANT/KEITH BLACK 4330 KNIFE EDGED, ULTRA-LIGHT ROLLER-BEARING CRANKSHAFT
IAD CNC BILLET TITANIUM CONNECTING RODS
IAD/COSWORTH CERAMIC COATED FORGED PISTONS
IAD 4340 1.000" DIAMETER .300" WALL THICKNESS PISTON PINS
1/16-INCH CHILD'S & ALBERT CHROMOLY RINGS
IAD 4-VALVE BILLET CNC ALUMINUM/CERAMIC CYLINDER HEADS
IAD CERAMIC COMBUSTION CHAMBERS & EXHAUST PORTS; BERYLLIUM SEATS
IAD CUSTOM LASER CUT HEAD GASKETS, O-RINGED CYLINDER HEADS
IAD CUSTOM O-RINGED INTAKE MANIFOLD AND CYLINDER HEAD INTAKE SURFACES
IAD/JESEL TITANIUM ROLLER ROCKERS WITH SOLID TITANIUM GIRDLE
IAD/JESEL 3-PIECE .160" WALL TAPERED 9/16 "-1/2" MODULAR PUSH RODS
IAD/CROWER PINNED 1.000" DIAMETER ROLLER LIFTERS
IAD CERAMIC COATED 2.00" TITANIUM INTAKE VALVES, 1.75" INCONEL® EXHAUST VALVES
JESEL TRIPLE VALVE SPRINGS, TITANIUM RETAINERS, 4340 LOCKS
IAD BILLET CNC TITANIUM/CARBON VALVE COVERS, POLISHED
IAD TITANIUM ROLLER CAMSHAFT WITH CERAMIC ROLLER CAM BEARINGS
IAD/JESEL BELT DRIVE CAMSHAFT TO CRANK TIMING, WITH TITANIUM GEARS
IAD CNC BILLET TITANIUM/CARBON MACHINED TIMING COVER
IAD HARMONIC DAMPENER WITH INTEGRAL CRANK TRIGGER PICKUP
IAD BILLET TITANIUM/CARBON DUAL ELECTRIC WATER PUMPS
ALL TITANIUM ENGINE HARDWARE
INDUCTION SYSTEM:
IAD CNC CARBON FIBER/TITANIUM INTER-COOLED INTAKE MANIFOLD
4-INJECTORS PER CYLINDER (2) 150 LB., (1) 90LB., AND (1) 60LB.
2-WELDON 34706 6+ GPM MECHANICAL RACING FUEL PUMPS
2-AEROMOTIVE 16302 BILLET FUEL PUMP SPEED CONTROLLERS
4-WELDON A2047 SERIES, HIGH FLOW 10+ GPM BYPASS REGULATORS
2-OCTANE ON DEMAND SYSTEMS
2-IAD DIGITALLY CONTROLLED INTEGRAL FUEL PRESSURE REGULATORS, 2500 CFM
RUSSELL'S BRAIDED STEEL FUEL LINES WITH AN FITTINGS
2-88MM IAD/AEROTECH WATER COOLED CERAMIC BALL BEARING TURBO CHARGERS
2-IAD/MOTEC 65MM PROTOTYPE ELECTRONICALLY CONTROLLED WASTE GATES
IAD TITANIUM EXHAUST HEADERS, FLANGES, V-BANDS
IAD TITANIUM EXHAUST SYSTEM
IAD TITANIUM HI-FLOW CATALYTIC CONVERTERS, MUFFLERS, MOUNTS, HARDWARE
LUBRICATION SYSTEM:
IAD CNC TITANIUM DRY SUMP OIL SYSTEM CAPACITY = 20 LITERS
IAD/MOROSO 5-STAGE DRY SUMP OILING SYSTEM
IAD/MOROSO TITANIUM BILLET OIL PUMP DRIVE
RUSSELL'S BRAIDED STEEL OIL LINES WITH AN FITTINGS
2-IAD CUSTOM HI-VOLUME OIL COOLERS
IGNITION/ELECTRONICS SYSTEM:
IAD/MOTEC FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM
IAD/MOTEC M880 ENGINE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM (DUAL M880 UNITS)
IAD/MOTEC CRANK FIRED IGNITION SYSTEM
MOTEC ON-STEERING-WHEEL MOUNTED HORSEPOWER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM
IAD/MOTEC POWER CONTROL SYSTEM, VARIABLE FROM 800 TO 2,500+ HORSEPOWER
MOTEC ON-STEERING-WHEEL DIGITAL BRAKE BIAS CONTROL
MOTEC ON-STEERING-WHEEL ACTIVE SUSPENSION CONTROL
MOTEC ON -STEERING-WHEEL 12-STAGE DIGITAL FUEL INJECTION CONTROL
IAD/MOTEC CARBON FIBER DIGITAL STEERING WHEEL WITH INTEGRAL DIGITAL CONTROLS
IAD PROTOTYPE 8-SPEED PADDLE SHIFTERS, WITH QUICK-RELEASE
MOTEC PIT-LANE SPEED CONTROL BUTTON
CUSTOM ALPINE 7.1 DOLBY DIGITAL A/V/DVD/MOTEC EMS DISPLAY
LOWRANCE GPS WITH FRONT, REAR, SIDE, 360 DEGREE SKYTM RADAR TRACKING SYSTEM
IN-CAR PCTM MOBILE INTEL CORE 2 DUO 2.33 GHZ
3.5G MOBILE INTERNET 7.2 MBPS
TRANSMISSION SYSTEM:
IAD PROTOTYPE TITANIUM/CARBON FIBER ALL-WHEEL-DRIVE SYSTEM
TRACTION CONTROL BY MOTEC
IAD CNC BILLET TITANIUM 8-SPEED TRANS-AXLE
QUICK-CHANGE GEAR-BOX, 30 SETS OF TRACK GEARS
WELDON K9200-A HIGH TEMP TRANS & AWD OIL PUMP
RUSSELL'S BRAIDED STEEL OIL LINES
IAD TRANSMISSION AND FRONT DIFFERENTIAL COOLERS
SUSPENSION/BRAKING SYSTEM:
ALL TITANIUM SUSPENSION COMPONENTS
PENSKE 3-WAY ADJUSTABLE RACING SHOCKS
FULLY ADJUSTABLE FRONT AND REAR AND SWAY BARS
CNC MACHINED SOLID DELRINTM SUSPENSION BUSHINGS
CARBON FIBER/CERAMIC 400MM DIAMETER BRAKE ROTORS
8-PISTON, LIQUID COOLED, CNC BILLET CALIPERS
AERODYNAMICS:
FRONT SPLITTER FOR MAXIMUM DOWN-FORCE
FRONT LEFT AND RIGHT DUAL DIVE PLANES
LEFT AND RIGHT SIDE POD AIR INTAKES AND OUTLETS FOR OPTIMAL COOLING
ROOF CANOPY AIR-INTAKE WITH SCOOP
MID UPPER BODY SECTION LEFT AND RIGHT AIR INTAKES
FLAT BELLY PAN WITH FULL LENGTH AIR DUCTING CHANNEL FOR MAXIMUM DOWN FORCE
REAR DECK LID SIDE VENTS
REAR FULLY ADJUSTABLE CARBON FIBER REAR WING
WHEELS:
DYMAG CARBON FIBER, MAGNESIUM CENTER, TITANIUM LUG NUTS
FRONT 11.5" X 19"
REAR 14" X 20"
TIRES:
MICHELIN PILOT SPORT 2
FRONT 285/35R19 PS2
REAR 345/30R20 PS2
****PIT:
ALL INTERIOR SURFACES ARE POLISHED, CLEAR COATED, CARBON FIBER
CUSTOM PROTOTYPE DESIGN CARBON FIBER SEATS
SCHROTH TITANIUM 6-POINT SEAT BELTS
DUAL CARBON FIBER FUEL CELLS FOR FUEL/METHANOL
REGISTERED AS A "HYBRID" VEHICLE DUE TO THE MULTI-FUEL ENGINE....
I WILL GET TO DRIVE IN THE DIAMOND LANE..... HA! HA! HA!
FUEL CAPACITY, GASOLINE = 100 LITRES
FUEL CAPACITY, METHANOL= 40 LITRES
ALL VEHICLE COMPONENTS (EXCEPT A VERY FEW INTERNAL ENGINE PARTS) ARE CARBON FIBER, KEVLAR, AND TITANIUM
...... NO OTHER MATERIALS USED .......
THE TRENTEK CHASSIS IS THE WORLD'S STIFFEST, LIGHTEST AND MOST COST EFFICIENT CAR CHASSIS. MADE OF COMPOSITE CARBON FIBER/HONEYCOMB KEVLAR, THE TRENTEK CHASSIS FOR THE MT900 WEIGHS IN UNDER 90LBS, (LESS ENGINE, TRANS, WIRING, SUSPENSION, ETC.) AND COULD BE PUT TOGETHER, BY HAND, IN APPROXIMATELY 20 MINUTES, ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR AN EXPENSIVE ASSEMBLY LINE. THIS CHASSIS IS OFFERED EXCLUSIVELY THROUGH TRENNE TECHNOLOGIES, INC. AND TEKLAM CORPORATION. VEHICLE WEIGHS 777 KILOS (1,709 LBS.), WITHOUT FUEL
ACTUAL TOP SPEED = 305 MPH+
CFD/FEA CATIA V5R19, THEORETICAL PHYSICAL TOP SPEED = 375 MPH+
CFD/WIND TUNNEL WITH IAD AERODYNAMIC MODIFICATIONS
COMPUTATIONAL FLUID DYNAMICS VERIFIED AERODYNAMICALLY SOUND AT OVER 400 MPH (AFTER EXTENSIVE IAD AERODYNAMIC MODIFICATION)
(CFD/FEA CATIA V5R19 VERIFIED WITH IAD AERODYNAMIC MODIFICATIONS-AERODYNAMICALLY LIMITING VEHICLE TO 305 MPH, WITH REAR WING ATTACHED)
TOP SPEED = 375 MPH+ WITH 118 OCTANE RACING FUEL, WITH IAD AERODYNAMIC MODIFICATIONS
LIMITED TO 305 MPH, WITH REAR WING ATTACHED, GASOLINE/METHANOL FUEL MIX
0-60 MPH = 2.5 SECONDS
0-150 MPH = 6.7 SECONDS
0-250 MPH = 17.5 SECONDS
1/4 MILE = 9.0 SECONDS
1/4 MILE SPEED = 178 MPH
ZERO TO 150 MPH AND BACK TO ZERO = 8.7
BRAKING: 250 MPH TO ZERO IN 8.5 SECONDS
At least it looks good. And I said the only positive statement in the whole thread.![]()
Even if they could make such a car street legally, would they even have a dyno that could read that kind of power to prove it?
PS- 2,000hp is the current most powerful, fastest street legal car isn't it? That Vauxhall Victor?
While adding an AWD system!Reventón;3393328So, where on earth did this company find a way to drop 500 lbs.
Wait a minute...
Did this come out April 1st?
Damnit, we've been delayed-response April Fooled...Gocha = Gotcha
If that was so, then original published has failed. April Fool's only work on the 1st, not a quarter into May. 👎Wait a minute...
Did this come out April 1st?
Damnit, we've been delayed-response April Fooled...Gocha = Gotcha
Warren Mosler via E-MailSeen the sites as well.
All we know is that we did sell that car to a buyer in California.
It was a very, very nice car as delivered.
And I'd be very impressed if he actually did what he claims he did, particularly the weight reduction.
Warren
This vehicle is currently at Corvette Mike's for a warranty repair. The engine is still stock as delivered and no weight reductions appear to have been made other than changing out the steering wheel (that contained an airbag when delivered) and changing to drilled/slotted rotors.
Thank you,
Jill Wagner
GM and VP of Global Operations
I don't consider a new steering wheel & brakes as beginning to build a vehicle up b/c I don't see the sense in modifying things like that when they're already "planning" to put in a new chassis, AWD system, and so forth.So...apparently...the "Land Shark," at least, right now, is just brakes and a steering wheel, but at least we know that it does seem to be real in some sense, that there truly is a company who is trying to build the car up. How close they'll get to their goals, I do not know.
Maybe Pistonheads got it late, I dunno. All I know is that a stock LS7 block cannot make 2500 HP. Maybe the built-up Vortec 8100 they use in NHRA Pro-stock cars, with boost (or a IHRA Mountain Motor without) but not the LS7.
I'm gonna look for this company's site. See if there's anything more to this...
EDIT: Uh...no site. but plenty of coverage, even by M/T. Strangely, this ALSO seems to be their FIRST product. Also found specs..."Billet Aluminum block." Okay, so you're gonna machine water passages in there? and there's gonna be a helluva lot of boost with around...what was it, 360 CI? I'd go 500, at least...
You'd think they have their own site..........
No it's a simple question of science, what's being talked about regarding commercial space travel is scientifically possible providing the right desings and materials are used. Do you understand the importance of using the right materials and using them in the right way? A stock LS7 block will not handle this much power nor was it built to.I heard information, which was said to have come through a source at the Mosler Factory in Florida, that Warren Mosler, and Todd Wagner have been in negotiations with the company everyone has been talking about, regarding the possible sale of the Mosler car factory. Yes, the IAD company really does exists.
I also heard information about this guys soon to be hyper-Mosler, and how some editor twisted the entire story around, telling others that the car in question was already built, when in fact it was getting ready for the modifications. And yes, the car was known to be at a Mosler dealer, in so-cal, getting some repairs done. From the photos on the web, looks like the solid Wilwood rotors were replaced with the better performing drilled & slotted rotors. And it looks looks like the factory subaru steering wheel was replaced by an NRG prototype wheel, along with an NRG quik-release hub. Makes good sense to remove the wheel, to keep it from driving away on it's own.
It's amazing how few people actually know what's true or "edited".
It seems this car has really created quite a feeding frenzy.
Personally, I would like to see what becomes of the land shark project, as it would be very interesting to see it completed.
http://www.intenseautomotivedesign.com
......with all the technologly available today, it's surpising to see so many people taking about what can't be done. So I guess all the hype about commercial space travel, hydrgen cars and mag-lev technology is impossible too .... LOL !
......with all the technologly available today, it's surpising to see so many people taking about what can't be done. So I guess all the hype about commercial space travel, hydrgen cars and mag-lev technology is impossible too .... LOL !
Mosler had their car designed entirely in CAD, and many thought it to be impossible, to go from a computer program, directly to a production model, without clay modeling, wooden mock-ups etc.. What a great idea!
In which, said car also perfectly ties into your reasoning of cost, of which, said car again, is a non-profit product.There's a reason why there's only one "production" vehicle on the planet with 1000 hp. Making big power and big numbers is ridiculously easy from an engineering point of view. Getting such a package to run reliably from day-to-day and stay in one piece is another thing, altogether.
In the world of eco fuels, green tech, and make love to nature...
2500 HP in a car sounds perfectly reasonable.👍