ok got it and saw it.... i drifted and late braked for my time... and i saw some weird stuff for the grip driving you did... it really hugged the corners like it wasnt supposed to... like it had df almost.... i saw that you have the same experience on thelil s turn im between the two big turns... like it woulndt turn if i just let off the gas like for a reg car... i had to break... i think that while pd may not have taken into account the true physics of what the vr4 adn the gtr and the 300zx do... they probably gave them a bit better handling characteristics to even it out... or they did infact account for the rear assisted steering... very fast kideng... looks even faster than my laps... dunno y... or maybe replays just looks faster... i can get better times only with cars with down force... but that is no challenge... i am gonna see if i can tune any other car to match the vr4... other than the 400r