4.7 gigs not the max

[MXTHREE]

Has anyone pointed out that GT4 could go on a dual layed DVD rom? That's a lot of gigs!

 

[LoudMusic]

Neat. And what exactly is the relevance of this?

 

[Jordan]

Originally posted by LoudMusic
Neat. And what exactly is the relevance of this?

I think he's pointing out the fact Polyphony could use a double-sided DVD disc to fit more data (cars, tracks, etc.) into the next GT game.

 

[Robin2]

it wouldnt last long with the kiddies. id rather have 2 discs like GT2.

 

[risingson77]

Really? I hated having to swap to go between Arcade and Simulation modes. Besides, you could go dual-layer rather than dual sided.

I don't have kids, so I couldn't possibly care less about what they do to their copies of GT4. 😈

 

[Jordan]

Originally posted by risingson77
Really? I hated having to swap to go between Arcade and Simulation modes.

Boy, I couldn't agree with you more - I absolutely despised that!

 

[Jpec07]

I like the two-sides idea. very clever...

 

[alex_gt]

Yea Jpec :thumbsup: but remember we're talking 2 layers not 2 sides? :cd:

Hopefully this will soon be introduced to Video Gaming :computer:, I'm surprised we haven't got it already, aren't the DVD videos on a different layer to the gaming?

 

[MXTHREE]

Yeah, dudes, it's just more info on the same side.....for all we know, some freak is working on a ten layed DVD rom with like 50 gigs on it. The dual sided ones just look stupid cuz there's no artwork on it. Technology kicks arse.

 

[Rossell]

Dual layered dual sided discs. Arcade on one, Gran Turismo on the other.

But then again, disc capacity is rapidly increasing. There are apparently discs in Japan that can hold 54Gb.

 

[risingson77]

HD-DVDs are gonna be sick. I don't know what the data capacity will be, but it'll hold a couple hours of 1920 x 1080 video.

They just have to get the price and reliability of the blue lasers used on HD-DVDs to a more "marketable" stand point.

 

[rjensen11]

4.7 is only the max for residential use. Industrial dvd-burners use the multi-layer feature, which gets at least 7GB on one side. Plus, they're coming out with a new algorithm that gets 25GB per side. That's out sometime not too distant futuristic. They're also coming out with something like a HDD that goes down to the size of atoms(no shi7, seriously!) It'll have a capacity of something like 25/250GB per inch2 I forgot which, but I'm thinking it's more toward the upper number.

So, my point is, I'm hoping that PS3 will use this new algorithm, or the new format that's a card-form, not disk-form. But GT4 is for PS2, so they can use up to 14GB per disk if they wanted to...

 

[rjensen11]

And a followup:

Sony will probably refrain from using multilayering. Anybody watch Gladiator? Have you noticed that it skips the best fight scene? That's because it's slit between the layers, part of it's on one layer, the rest is on the next. PS2's have a VERY HARD TIME switching from one layer to another.

Oh yeah, did you guys know that you can burn over 80 minutes of cd-quality music on an 80 minute cd? I've burnt 82 minutes on an 80-minute cd using the overburn feature. The thing is, though, I guess not all CD players read overburnt disks, and not all burners have the option. But on the + side, all the cd players I've tested my long disk in work fine with it, and I'm talking about some CD players that go back 8 years or so, I think...

 

[MXTHREE]

Haven't you noticed that cd roms seem to have random amounts of megs available? What's up with that? You think they would be more uniform.....oh well, the f'rs are cheap.

 

[risingson77]

It's not really random...the amount available depends on how the disc was produced.

When CD-ROMs were first available, the upper limit was thought to be 650 MB. Later, some "tricks" involving varying the speed of the drive came about abd we now have CD-ROMs that have 800+ MB of storage. If my description is a little vague, it's because I really don't have a very clear idea of what's being done in the manufacturing process. :smilewink

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

Double-sided DVDs with a protective layer for scratch resisting if the disc is handled with kids. That would be neat.

 

[halfracedrift]

but then wouldn't that ruin the disc more easliy? sorry for being a n00b, but
if you have a 2 sided disc... wouldn't that mess up the disc cuz you wouldn't know which side is which AND not 2 mention that you can damage data more easily??

unless i'm gettin that 2 layerd dvd concept wrong... :curse you dvds:

 

[risingson77]

Most CDs and DVDs are rendered unreadable by scratches in the plastic. It takes quite a bit of doing to get to the aluminum plate inside.

There are double sided DVDs out...if you look at the center ring, thry are usually labeled Side One, Side Two, etc.

CDs and DVDs should not wear with normal use - just be careful.

 

[halfracedrift]

ah..... ok thanks risingson
but some ppl aren't careful.. lol *me*

 

[rjensen11]

Originally posted by risingson77
It's not really random...the amount available depends on how the disc was produced.

When CD-ROMs were first available, the upper limit was thought to be 650 MB. Later, some "tricks" involving varying the speed of the drive came about abd we now have CD-ROMs that have 800+ MB of storage. If my description is a little vague, it's because I really don't have a very clear idea of what's being done in the manufacturing process. :smilewink

All cd's have the capability of burning into the 90-minutes I can easily burn 90 minutes of perfect .wav files on a 70-minute cd. The only thing you need to make sure is if your cd-rw can support overburning.

 

[Rossell]

And when online and broadband arrivs on PS2, we can just download the game proper. At a 512K rate, which is normal for broadband users, you can get 200Mb in an hour.