$50000 Challenge

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If u have ever read the grassroots Motorsports mag with the $2003 challenge you would know the basis of this race. You have $50000 to spend on any car and use the left over tune up the car. There will be three contests: road race, 400 meter run, and top speed. the points will be totaled. 1st 10 points, 2nd 8 points, 3rd 6 points, 4th 4 points, 5th 2 points, 6th and back 1 point. The road race will be on Complex String. Fastest time wins, 400 meter run fastest time wins. Top speed fastest speed wins.

Awards are

Overall
lowest amount of credits spent
Fastest road race time
fastest 400 meter time
top speed
 
Hey, we did a similar thing last year based on the GRM $2002 Challenge! It was a blast - Sage won by winning the concourse, same as it's usually won in real life.

The way I formatted it was to have a budget of 20,002 credits. You had to buy your choice of any car available new for under 20,002 credits. The resale value (25% of new cost) was then deducted from your 20,002 budget to simulate buying a used car. T2 tires were given free, and the remainder of the budget was yours to spend any way you wanted.

The three events I developed were just like the real thing: 400m drag race, autocross, and concourse. Drag race was easy using test-and-tune. For the autocross, we ran the first quadrant of the Complex string, with one catch - you did it from a standing start in one of the grid boxes, just like a real autocross. For the concourse, we took screen shots of everybody's car in the color they bought, and with whatever wheels they preferred (wheel were also free), then posted a popularity poll on several websites. Votes were totalled for each car to determine the concourse judging.

Scores were worked out just like real life: fastest time in each event gets 100 points, with each slower time getting proportionally fewer points. Concourse best score got 50 points, again with lower scores getting proportionally less.

It worked out really well and it was a total ball to participate in. The overall winner was Sage in a current-gen Celica; he also won the concourse. I won the drags in an MR-S Spyder and took third overall. Quattro-bro took second by winning the autocross by a healthy margin in a Silvia.
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
The overall winner was Sage in a current-gen Celica; he also won the concourse.
... the only reason I won overall was because of the concourse! :lol: (But of course that worked out well for me... exploiting my weak points and working elsewhere)
 
Hey if you want I can change the fromat of the competition.

I.E. re sale value of car is deducted from the 50,000 credits. Also I'll change the credits to 20,003 for the efect. We'll set it up like neon duke said. Just instead of concours we'll do max speed. How does that sound?
 
my car will probably be the '98 300 ZX 2 BY 2 or the 240 sx Type X cuz my dad races a 240 sx
 
oh yeah. You half to give a list of what you bought so I can check to make sure yiour vehicle is leagle. If not you can run for fun or exhibition but if yiou are fastest the award goes to next faastest.
 
Hmm, sounds interesting....
I have an idea or three.:D
 
I might just run in this one hehe. I think I have improved much and I have a good choice of what cars to use :D PM me where and when :D
 
lets here your ideas gil. The times are to be pm to me by midnight july 30. That should give you ample time to get the car you want and set it up right.
 
instead of running the first portion of Complex string. we r going to run the first 2 sectors of Laguna seca

here is my first run with a Lancer evo 7

max speed 174 mph
autocross 48.110
400 m 13.062
 
Originally posted by Mclarens Main Man
lets here your ideas gil. The times are to be pm to me by midnight july 30. That should give you ample time to get the car you want and set it up right.
Based on the original format. I ran several cars. If you count the fact that I finally went back and put Sport Tires (T1's) on every car. I probably won't be as fast as I would with the T2's. Though I believe that including the cost of the tires in pretty much equalized my cars with the mods that Duke suggested.
I was also hampered by my own short attention span.:lol:
I cannot stand to run more than about three or four laps at Complex String at any one time. So none of the cars named below got more than 4 laps in.

I Ran only 1/4 mile, and The String.
I tried 7 cars:
Mitsubishi EVO 6 (RS) it's the lightest of the EVO's but I think the EVO 7 is a little quicker. It also requires a Full race tranny for Complex String due to the short gearing for acceleration. It is also a bit of a handful for this track with the 4WD. Getting it to kick it's butt around was not nearly as easy as in the cars listed below. It went exactly where it was pointed. On a track as tight as the String, a little rear "looseness" can be a good thing.
It managed 13.289 in the quarter, and 5'08.083 around the String.

Nissan S15: It has the HP edge of all the Silvia's. However it was slowest in all my testing. I may have to go back and try the 1.8L S13. It's cheaper by 7g's, and it weighs less.
The S15 pulled 14.369 in the quarter, and 5'11.276 at the String.

Toyota MR-S This little car was quite a suprise as it only had about 200 HP when I was finished with it. It felt awsome on the String. The low polar moment of being MR configured, and it's diminuitive size made it a joy to throw around on Complex String.
It was good for 13.908 in the quarter and 5'13.206 at the String.

Toyota MR2-GT-s Also alot of fun to drive. Not too much oversteer, quite a bit faster than I expected.
13.109 in the 400m and 5'12.751.

Chevy Camaro Z-28 and SS Both of these cars are very formidable. I really wish they had a semi-race tranny available for them as I would have had 5,000 extra to add power. The SS was the standout of the two. Both were quite smooth once I had played with the settings a bit. Though I was plagued with oversteer in the "boxes" and understeer in the "loops".:lol:
Z-28 with 13.320 and 5'10.839
SS with 13.289 and 5'05.869

Ford Mustang SVT Cobra RLet's just say that this car with it's outdated chassis, and considerable weight, was quite a suprise.:eek:
On all the other cars I opted for the "$250 HP upgrade" of an oil change. Since I know the 'Stang actually loses HP with an Oil change, I skipped it. Mods included Sport Tires ($6,000), Semi-Race tranny ($5,700), Sport Suspension (3,200), Muffler/Air cleaner ($2,900), Wt Redux 1($1,000). For a grand total just $50 short of $50,000. This was my second attempt. I went back and started over from "scratch". This pony handled much better than I expected, ran just fine with the semi-race tranny. It topped out at a tiche over 150 on the long front straight. It also stayed "planted" despite having a live rear axle. With IRS, This car would be even faster.
It pulled, in this configuration, 13.284, and 5'01.692..
I saw some places to whittle this down, but reffering back to my attention span...
I ran the 5'01 on my second lap. The funny thing is that I was 14 seconds quicker than with the first set-up for this car, with 14 less HP.
 
Hey did you realize that the price of what you could spend on the car. only 20,003 credits are aloud to be spent but what the car sells for is what you deduct from your money. You get t2 tires free.The way I formatted it was to have a budget of 20,002 credits. You had to buy your choice of any car available new for under 20,003 credits. The resale value (25% of new cost) was then deducted from your 20,003 budget to simulate buying a used car. T2 tires were given free, and the remainder of the budget was yours to spend any way you wanted. Also we r running the first two sectors of Laguna Seca.
 
That will definitely cull the field. I'm working on something else at the moment but I'll get back to this.
 
Originally posted by Mclarens Main Man
Hey did you realize that the price of what you could spend on the car. only 20,003 credits are aloud to be spent but what the car sells for is what you deduct from your money. You get t2 tires free.The way I formatted it was to have a budget of 20,002 credits. You had to buy your choice of any car available new for under 20,003 credits. The resale value (25% of new cost) was then deducted from your 20,003 budget to simulate buying a used car. T2 tires were given free, and the remainder of the budget was yours to spend any way you wanted. Also we r running the first two sectors of Laguna Seca.
Based on the rules you listed above. The Lancer is not eligible.
It costs 25,xxx. That puts it more than 5,000 over the budget.
I have three cars in the wings for this.
:D :D
 
NO IT EGUALS AROUND 7,000 CUZ ONLY 25 % OF THE ORIGINAL fprice is deducted. ANd thtat lacer isn't valid cuz I didn't start from a standstill. Wait till u see my viper

400m 12.220
auto X 50.120
maxspeed 185.4
 
Well I got 14 cars that I feel are going to be worthy of this challenge.

My only question now is how are the points gonna add up here. I can say that most cars will excel in one of these 3 tests compared to others. Time to do some calculating and some testing :D the highest you can pay for a car is between 80,000 and 80,100. Trust me I was about to take that Speed six and see what it could do here :(

well two cars already eliminated.
 
first car tested
400m 13.478
max speed 179.6
Auto x 45.178

I still got a bunch of cars to go :D

scratch that, I redid some of the mods on the car and came up with this

400m 12.936
max speed DNS
Auto x - 43.916

My impressions on this car is that it is notably over looked, and I have been wanting to use this car at some point. It actually is quite controlling around corners and sticks nicely even with T2s. I don't think I can get that quarter mile down any further, but I will try. I am going to use another car in the end probably.
 
I used a Lancer :D

Well, I am not going to give everything away, but I did not use a racing tranny
 
when yoou pm your official times to me plz leave the car u used and what parts you bought so I can make sure your caaar is leagle
 
theeese are the official guidelines for the race

You have 20003 creditas to spend on your car and hop ups. the price of the car that is deducted from the money is 25% of what you bought the car for. The leftover money is for hop ups. YOu get T2 tires for free
oilchanges are for free to.
the auto-x: you must start in the pole posistion grid place. No flying laps
 
So what you're saying is, The resale value of the car must be under 20,002cr? Then deduct that amount from 20,003cr for mods?
That's not the way I understood it. I thought the purchase price had to be under 20,002. Then using the 20,003 figure we subtracted the resale value, and used the remainder to mod the cars.
I'm so confused.:confused:
 
this looks like fun :) show an example of how the costing of a car is calculated as after reading this thread I'm a little confused...........
 
like
19750 for the viper is subtracted from the 20003 leaving 250 credits left to spend on an extra oilchange
 
well if I've got the rules right i'm running

over 200mph V-max
high 11's in the 0-400
and low 45's for first 2 sectors at laguna seca :D

cars making a little over 520bhp :lol:
 
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