75% possible?

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I'm getting ready to start this adventure that is GT4. While looking over the list for 100% completion, I see some roadblocks. I game in stints not much more than 2 hours at a time, so the 1000 Miles, and of course Endurance events, are out. The Formula GT World Champ. events may be possible. I'm not going to B-Spec anything to cut the time, or pause my PS2 for long periods, either. Everything else looks doable. Can I still hope for at least 75% without the marathons?
 
How could you stop at 75%.. it takes a long time to get that far, and once you do it is very hard to stop playing... and plus by not participating in the edurance evens you won't be awarded some great cars, that can potentially help you in parts of the game!
 
Thank you for that unsolicited testamonial for the game, Audi. Now, anyone want to actually try and answer the question with a simple yes or no, rather than completely ignoring my reasoning for not doing longer events?
 
It is probably possible, if you think about it, the endurances wont be 25% of the games races...

And one of the races in Formula GT takes about 1½ hour, so you should be able to do those.

So if i had to bet, i would strongly say, yes it is possible to complete 75% without long races.
 
There's nothing wrong with pausing the box and resuming later. Several members have completed the game 100% A-Spec, meaning they did the 24-hour races at the controller, pausing the game when they needed to leave, coming back for a few hours at a time. Nothing has to be completed in the same sitting as when you started it.

I don't know what percentage you would reach, but there's no 75% prize car.
 
Thank you for the replies. 75% was just an arbitrary number. I suppose I could have worded the question- Approximately what part of the game do the 1000 mile and Endurance events comprise, 25% or less?- and would have been looking for the same answer.

I would never be comfortable pausing the PS2 for long periods of time, no matter what others have done. I'm the one who pays the electric bill in this house. I don't turn on a light unless it's too dark to see. I don't leave my PC on while watching TV, I don't leave the fridge door hang open, and I don't leave my game systems on while I'm not playing.

It was really foolish of PD to have not included a save feature during the longer races. I understand the philosophy that the game is a sim, but it's the job of a professional race team to invest the time in such an event. Although many gamers have put in the time as well, I still think it's ridiculous to expect the rest of us to put up with such nonsense.
 
If you do all the manufacturer races, and the shorter Enduros, you should be able to complete 75% pretty easily.
Heck, the El Capitan Enduro isn't much over two hours. Shorter if you wildly overmatch the competition.
Also, the New York Enduro is "short" for an enduro.
The license tests and Mission halls can also, be run for as much or as little time as you have.
 
HEAVYSET
Thank you for the replies. 75% was just an arbitrary number. I suppose I could have worded the question- Approximately what part of the game do the 1000 mile and Endurance events comprise, 25% or less?- and would have been looking for the same answer.
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Less. Each race, if I remember it correctly, comprises about 0.17% of the game. There's 16 Endurance races, 15 Formula GT races and 4 races in 1000 Miles! That's 35 races in total, for about 6% of the game.
 
Gil, I'm glad you mentioned the New York Enduro. I'm a big Muscle Car fan, and the '71 HEMI Charger as a prize automatically makes that race the one enduro that interests me.

EDIT: I just read your response, Famine. Thank you. .17% for each race? The same for 2 laps or 24 hours. Crazy. I think I can do the Formula GT races. They look to me, based on the lap counts, that they should come in under 2 hours. Similar to F1 races.

I had time for long events years ago when I reached 100% for GT3, but things are different today. I was hoping I wouldn't miss out on too much of the game by not doing the enduros and such. Looks like I won't. Thanks to everyone again.
 
HEAVYSET
Gil, I'm glad you mentioned the New York Enduro. I'm a big Muscle Car fan, and the '71 HEMI Charger as a prize automatically makes that race the one enduro that interests me.
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That was indeed my favorite enduro as well... it was one of the few enduros I actually raced, and enjoyed... rather than letting B-Spec Bob(The Autopilot Dimwit) take control of.
 
Famine
Less. Each race, if I remember it correctly, comprises about 0.17% of the game. There's 16 Endurance races, 15 Formula GT races and 4 races in 1000 Miles! That's 35 races in total, for about 6% of the game.
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Aren't there an extra 0.17% to be gained by winning the championship as a whole? Though, that still amounts to a meager 0.34% for the Formula GT and '1000 Miles!' together...

Just on a quick note for HEAVYSET: It's pretty hard to be competitive in the Formula GT series if you don't have the Formula GT car. To do that, you'll have to win the Nurburgring 24Hrs enduro, which pretty much conflicts with your first point.

Alternatively, if you don't want to do the 24Hrs, you could take one of the two paths:
  • Take a look at the 200 A-spec points forum, where some members have completed the races in the FGT series by using buyable LMPs such as the Mazda 787B, or Audi R8. Could be very, very tough, but should be doable if you train enough, and manage to keep your nerves for 2 hours of non-stop driving against opponents with a huge lead on you, performance-wise
  • Find someone with GT4 in your area, and buy the Formula GT car off his savegame
 
HEAVYSET - i can totally understand your reasons for not doing the enduros or longer race series - i too neither have the time or want to leave my PS2 on for long periods of time unattended. I'm on approx 73% of game completion. However, i have done a couple of the shorter enduros and B-spec'd a few more of the medium length ones too. I'm still to complete Mission 34 in the Mission Hall and also need to mop up a few of the manufactures race series as well.

Does anyone know if you win a car for 75% complete?
 
No you don't win a car for 75%, you do for 25%, 50% and 100%.
 
Gingiba, thanks for the info on the Formula GT series. I hadn't even considered the aspect of whether I'd have a competitive car to enter or not.

Actually, it would be no great loss to me if I don't do the Formula GT series either. Video game races become tedious to me as they approach 20 laps, nevermind beyond, on a standard length track. After a tire change or 2, the outcome is usually clear- either you are far ahead, too far behind, or will have to duke it out with one particular AI car for the rest of the race hoping it behaves as if the I does indeed stand for intelligence, rather than idiocy.

I also think it's ridiculous that a 24hr race, or any enduro for that matter, counts the same towards completion as a measly 2 lapper. The enduros should be bonus rewards for getting 100%. They shouldn't be requirements, especially if their percentage value is no more than any other event, bonus car aside.
 
Percentage is a measure of the number of trophies won, not the amount of racing done.
 
The FGT races are approx 1h30 - 1h45m each. You'll find that these can be pretty close races as the cars are very much evenly matched. Yes even in these races there is a backmarker and a rabbit. If you're good you might win by a large margin (>20 sec), me however Id be glad to win them whatever the MoV.

AMG.
 
wfooshee
Percentage is a measure of the number of trophies won, not the amount of racing done.
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Your point? Famine already stated that each event (trophy) is roughly equivalent to .17% of completion. I'm saying a short event should be worth, say, .01%, whereas a 24hr race should be worth at least 5%, based on time invested.
 
HEAVYSET
Your point? Famine already stated that each event (trophy) is roughly equivalent to .17% of completion. I'm saying a short event should be worth, say, .01%, whereas a 24hr race should be worth at least 5%, based on time invested.
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So at 20 endurance races you'd be at 100%?

What about all the other races in the game? I'm not sure of the exact number of races in the game, but I'm quite sure it's a lot more then 50. So what about all the other races? Are you saying you should be able to get to 100% without completing all the races? That just doing enough to add up to 100% as in your example of one race being worth 5%?
 
HEAVYSET
Your point? Famine already stated that each event (trophy) is roughly equivalent to .17% of completion. I'm saying a short event should be worth, say, .01%, whereas a 24hr race should be worth at least 5%, based on time invested.
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See above post, but I'll add that what difference does it make? It wouldn't get you to 100% any faster, as you would still need to do all the races for 100%. And it has already been said that it is easily able to be gotten to at least 75% without doing the endurance races. So why would making percentage be based on time invested be any better than all of the races counting the same?
 
Sigh, use your own numbers guys, the ones I used were pulled out of the air.

I personally, as stated before, do not think Enduros or such should count at all towards 100%. They should be bonus events for the dedicated players to enjoy.

However, and I can't believe I have to spell this out again, since the Enduros are part of the completion percentage, I think a 24hr real time event should carry more weight than a simple 2 lapper. Just for the sake of argument- Say I need .34%, and 2 events to reach 100. One is a 2-lapper, and the other is a 24hr enduro. I run the 2-lapper in less than 3 minutes and get .17. For the final .17, I have to run 24hrs.? I wouldn't run it anyway, because I don't have the time, but I think the 24hr event should give me more of a percentage than the 3 minute race. It would seem more worth the time to me.

The purpose of my original question was because I had assumed each longer event would count as a greater percentage.
 
HEAVYSET
Say I need .34%, and 2 events to reach 100. One is a 2-lapper, and the other is a 24hr enduro. I run the 2-lapper in less than 3 minutes and get .17. For the final .17, I have to run 24hrs.? I wouldn't run it anyway, because I don't have the time, but I think the 24hr event should give me more of a percentage than the 3 minute race.
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You see, the problem is that if you wanted to get 100% you would have to do both races anyways, so what difference does it make if they are both the same percentage?
HEAVYSET
It would seem more worth the time to me.
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You are playing a video game. Constructive uses of ones time while playing said game is irrelavent in the grand scheme of things.
 
So is responding to a topic you see no point to.

A mod can lock this one down if they wish. I already received my answer from those who cared enough to help, rather than spout unecessary rhetoric.
 
Toronado
You see, the problem is that if you wanted to get 100% you would have to do both races anyways, so what difference does it make if they are both the same percentage?
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Exactly, if your goal is 100% then it doesn't matter how much weight each carries since it will take completing them all to get 100%. I don't really care to much for getting to 100% complete. I just like to drift around. :D

Also, you said "use your own numbers guys". Well, why can't we use yours? It was your idea to change the weight of each race towards the percentage of completion, right?
 
HEAVYSET
I already received my answer from those who cared enough to help, rather than spout unecessary rhetoric.
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You started the discussion by saying race percentage should be based on how much racing is done. The only reason you are writing off everyone else's response to that as rhetoric is because we have told you why that wouldn't matter in any case, so don't get angry at us.
 
Toronado
You started the discussion by saying race percentage should be based on how much racing is done. The only reason you are writing off everyone else's response to that as rhetoric is because we have told you why that wouldn't matter in any case, so don't get angry at us.
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