8 Speed Transmissions???

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I just realized that my 2002 Nissan Skyline GT-8 sedan has an 8 speed transmission. I know the Nike car has an 8 speed, but are there more cars that upgrade to an 8 speed or is this a fluke/bug/error with this particular car? It shows 8 in the graph in the tuning menu, but you can only manually adjust seven. The auto setting will adjust all 8.

Kinda silly really...
 
The GT-8 has 8 speeds in the real world, apparently. Hence the GT-8 name, really.
 
bfifteenv
I just realized that my 2002 Nissan Skyline GT-8 sedan has an 8 speed transmission. I know the Nike car has an 8 speed, but are there more cars that upgrade to an 8 speed or is this a fluke/bug/error with this particular car? It shows 8 in the graph in the tuning menu, but you can only manually adjust seven. The auto setting will adjust all 8.

Kinda silly really...

I think its an 8 speed CVT transmision.
 
bfifteenv
I just realized that my 2002 Nissan Skyline GT-8 sedan has an 8 speed transmission. I know the Nike car has an 8 speed, but are there more cars that upgrade to an 8 speed or is this a fluke/bug/error with this particular car? It shows 8 in the graph in the tuning menu, but you can only manually adjust seven. The auto setting will adjust all 8.

Kinda silly really...

I would like to try this car.. How did you get it?
 
Actually, CVT means Continuously Variable Transmission. I've never heard of a GT-8, and know nothing about it. A CVT can mimic a normal, gear-driven transmission by changing engine revs to give a sensation of gear changes. The current downside of the CVT is that today's CVT's are incapable of handling high-torque loads. It would seem to me that an RB26 would fit into the category of "too much torque for a CVT". I also find it hard to believe that Nissan would market it as an 8-speed if it wasn't a true 8-speed. My guess would be that a GT-8 would have 8 forward gears, not a CVT.
 
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Actually, CVT means Continuously Variable Transmission. I've never heard of a GT-8, and know nothing about it. A CVT can mimic a normal, gear-driven transmission by changing engine revs to give a sensation of gear changes. The current downside of the CVT is that today's CVT's are incapable of handling high-torque loads. It would seem to me that an RB26 would fit into the category of "too much torque for a CVT". I also find it hard to believe that Nissan would market it as an 8-speed if it wasn't a true 8-speed. My guess would be that a GT-8 would have 8 forward gears, not a CVT.

http://www.apexjapan.com/news/gt_8/gt_8.html

CVTs can be designed to handle high torque loads, but they are pretty expensive. I believe the R35 will be available with an 8 speed CVT like the GT-8's.
 
Thanks for the answers. After I posted this but before it was approved I tried it with the stock and trans and found that it was an eight speed stock.

Wow, I'm a big Nissan fan, and the G35 sedan is one of my current favorites, but I had no idea this car existed. Once again we Americans don't get the cool stuff.

For whoever asked it is available new at tha e Nissan dealer.

And a CVT is not very similar to BMWs SMG. A "normal" CVT has no gears, more like belts that run on conical cogs and offer almost infinite ratios between whatever is designed as it's lowest and highest. More info here. In the GT-8 (and I guess in some other CVT equipped performance cars too) the designers can put steps into the range of ratios to make the CVT seem more like a conventional transmission.

Pretty cool stuff. It's good that it is shifted sequentially. I have a car with a standard H pattern 6 speed and I mis-shift from time to time and my GF does everytime she drives my car, I'd hate to see what we would do with two more slots to miss...
 
Aside from having 8 speeds, it's nothing special. I bought it to rerun the El Capitan enduro and with 400hp, fc suspension, a stage 2 weight reduction and downforce, it's still not really competitive. It does complete my Skyline collection though...
 
It would be possible to have an "8 speed CVT". The Audi CVT can be shifted similar to an automatic transmission that allows you to select gears on the fly. The Audi is programmed with 5 shift points, to sorta be like 5 gears, so you put in the right spot and its in low or one of several mediums or high. Mostly however, you put that sucker in D and let the computer do the work for you.

There are actually four of the "conical cogs" as it was put. The are arranged like this:

-->-<-- from engine
| |
| |
| |
-->-<-- to wheels

where the > and < are the cogs the || is a belt and the - are shafts. The cogs can move closer together or farther away on the shafts, which affectively changes the size of the "gear". If its closer, than the belt has to go around a circumferencially larger circle, if they are farther away, the belt wraps around the narrower part and is effectively on a smaller gear, i.e.:

---><--
| |
| | cogs close together
| |
---><--

->--<-
| |
| | cogs far apart
| |
->--<-

By having the shaft from the engine being small, and the shaft to the wheels large, the wheels can turn slower but with more power for acceleration. When the shaft from the engine is large and the shaft to the wheels is small, then the wheel can turn faster but with less power, i.e. cruising.

--><-- engine
| |
| | acceleration
| |
->--<- wheels

->--<- engine
| |
| | highway speeds
| |
--><-- wheels

EDIT: For some reason the "belts" are refusing to center on my "cogs", deal with it.
 
ok, ive tried to ask this...

M5-7 Speed tranny
F1-7 Speed
Nike-8 Speed
This skyline-8 speed

any other cars with 7 or more speeds?
 
shorti
someone answer this.. I want to know also ;D

NO. The SMG is basically a traditional manual but with a computer program that tells servos (I guess, not actually sure, maybe powerful electric motors, which are basically servos) when to change the gears, either based on the program language, or when given a digital input signal (paddles). Hope that helps. If not, do a google search on BMW SMG or go to Road and Track, Motortrend, Automobile, or any number of automotive magazine websites, or heaven forbid, BMW's own website probably has something.
 
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