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Maybe the Turbo Stage 2 can help me 
Originally posted by lotus350
Changed my car, got a clean save with T2's of
52.6
52.7
I am happy with my first race session
I'll bring out the Momo on it tomorrow!
... I did get a tiny improvement but nothing special 
Originally posted by phattboy
Maybe if you Slowed down a bit it would help
"Fat Chance" of Mr P "Slowin' Down" here or anywhere else!!! ...UB57
Originally posted by UB57
If he would get his T-3 times back up in the say 53.x range, I'm reasonably sure the difficulty in the section following would diminish considerably... problem solved
I've seen some 56.7's and couple 51.6's too. That last complex can just kill a good lap if you go just even a little wide.Originally posted by Mr P
I ran some more laps to try and keep GT3mich at bay
It's not working
57.0 ..... had some 56.8's
51.7
51.8
This is a tough race to keep clean and consistant especially the section after T3
I'm ready to finish with this round ..
Good luck All 👍
Originally posted by NielsG
HELP! I'm way way way of pace here.
I really need a problem area analysis on this one. Adopt me, help me, save me, phattboy. Please.
I got major problem in the following areas:
Second turn.
Turn right after wooden bridge.
Can't keep momentum and I don't have a plan, so everything here comes down to coincidence.
Easier "Said" than "Done!"
Whether I "Slow" enough to "Stay Tight" or keep my momentum & "Go Wide" the results are the same..."Crappy" Lap Times!!! ...UB57
Originally posted by phattboy
Premise of my response:
First of all, I'm assuming you are serious and the Trak Fodder Foundation leaves nobody on the wayside
Second, although I am not quite to the T-3 times of the Mr. Ps and GT3mich's in this race, I have found a path to T-2 that is as quick as what appears to be posted here. That being said, take what I am saying in the following narrative for what it is worth in the spirit it is offered.
Narrative to MY T-2:
Three things you have to bear in mind.
1) Brakes are a killer on this track! Normally, I drive either automatic trans or manual trans depending on the track... To get to a 33.mid T-2 at Swiss Alps, I have tried both ways and have come to the conclusion that with an automatic trans you may get to a pretty quick T-2 with loads of practice, you are ultimately "shooting yourself in the foot". I think this track needs to be driven in manual transmission because there are only two braking points (maybe only one) running manual. If you run automatic, braking points are all over and around the track.
2) As with most rally, if the butt of my car is swinging and swaying... I'm losing the race.
3) At Swiss Alps, I have found that for me, setting up the transmission with higher gears and a level of "short-shifting" is helpful to both of the above. In the cars I have tried here at Swiss Alps, all of them performed better for me kind of "lugging" them around the track. Check the torque ranges on the car you are running and try setting up the transmission so you can run the track comfortably and so that when you are shifting/driving you "optimize" that torque band.
That being said:
Running the Corolla...
Off the start line, short shift to second, then third and I am in fourth gear torque area before apexing the first slight left. I am in fifth gear before the apex of the following slight right. I set the apex of that slight right such that I end up at the outside of the track by the second "hump" (just before the hard right on to the first back straight).
Just before my car reaches the peak of that "hump" I start my turn into the first hard right. (I make that a gentle turn because when the car "unloads" the suspension, it will "drift" the back naturally out for you. It doesn't require much help. With a little practice, I was able to stay full throttle in fifth gear (no lift) and apex the inside of that hard right just inside the weeds and end up back on the outside of the track for the straight and "jump".
T-1 target time is 16.1 or 16.2 and that is essential to reach the T-2 of 33.mid. By the way, I'm still in fifth gear all the way through here and down that straight.
Just after the crowd of 2 dimensional spectators on your left and just before the red/white guardrail (maybe midway between those two points), I "twitch" the steering right and back center setting up a very very slight butt end drift and then (still prior to the red/white guard rail), back to full right until the butt end of the car begins to take over the turn to the inside apex. At which point, steering is back center. Quick, full-throttle shift down to fourth prior to the apex of the right hander. Ride the slight drift back out to the apex of the following sweep left and assist the attitude change of the car to make the left apex.
It is full throttle all the way through here to the end of the bridge. That means: Full throttle all the way from the start line.
Over the bridge, (left to center enter the bridge, right side exit) still in fourth. Exit the bridge, (ignore the T-2 time... don't even look... time for that later) off the gas long enough to "bump" the brakes, turn hard left, quick downshift to third and back on full gas to apex that first "corkscrew" turn partway into the weeds and such that you exit pointed at the apex of the second "corkscrew" turn.
Finish the lap (which should now be smokin') and go back to watch the replay to see your mid33 T-2 and smile at your bad self.
phattboy
👍
Originally posted by lotus350
Damn! you know what I mean....
T3 sorry
And that's a lot of T's
Originally posted by Mr P
for the record I've been running the Subaru Prototype here's my set up for whoever can make use of it:tup:
5.5/7.5
90/90
9/10
9/10
0/0
0/0
2/3
24/20
lsd's
10/10
20/40
10/20
gears
2.853
1.981
1.473
1.147
0.934
0.796
final 4.444
auto 26
max df
asm0
tcs0
vcd 10%
Good Luck
You won't get any speed with this mess. muhwahahahahhaha.
Originally posted by lotus350
Maybe a look at Mr P's TT8 will help you to get them bends right
http://www.davidanderson.org.uk/files/tt8.wmv
Hope it helps!
The kids just started to scream for dinner. Originally posted by phattboy
@Niels
Assuming you are serious and in the spirit of inter-team rivalry... Let me know and I could PM you a narrative of how I get to a 38.high/33.mid t-2 and hope it helps... I'm not sure how appropriate it would be to post it here as it is kind of long... If he says okay... I'll post it here for the benefit of anyone who might be struggling with that first section.
Bear in mind, I don't want to be perceived as presumptuous here. I have found "A" path to T-2 that matches Mr. P and GT3mich time however, I'm not quite where they are at T-3 (although I'm working on it).
phattboy
