A real B-Spec Question

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My stats:
58.4%
B-spec Skill: 6981
Machine Skill: 76
Course Skill: 68
Battle Skill: 70
Mileage: 8,879 (miles)

OK, I've searched for answers and found nothing, so I thought I'd just ask.
What exactly are the rules for B-spec?
How do you get points?
Do you get some percentage of the A-spec points you earn? Or do you only get B-spec for running B-spec? What about mixed - such as enduros?
What are Machine, Course and Battle Skills? What are the maximums? Do these apply to Mr. B-spec or are they just measurements of your A-spec accomplishments? If they apply to B-spec, how are they measured and improved?
What are the B-spec rules for rerunning a race - why do I get no points sometimes?

Sorry for the deluge, but these are questions that no one seems to be asking that I think are pretty obvious/pertinent. I was actually kind of surprised that I couldn't find an FAQ on B-spec mode.
It could be that it's just one of those Polyphony mysteries. Feel free to answer, not answer, or flame at your discretion.
 
Ok, I've been trying to figure this out myself so I'll answer what I can. You get points only from running b-spec mode. I haven't run a race in a mix of b-spec and a-spec so I don't know whether you'd get points for that, but as I recall reading you don't get a-spec points if you b-spec any part of a race, you may not get any points at all. My hunch is that you do though. Machine skill is the skill your driver has at handling cars. The way I've found to increase this is to use a variety of cars. Course skill is knowledge of the tracks in the game. From what I've seen I believe every track in the game will increase this by 1 point and reverses count separately from the normal track. It should only be 1 or 2 races before you get this. Battle skill is the one I'm still the most hazy about. I believe it is how well your driver can pass and pressure a car in front of him. It may also influence the likelihood of him messing up when being pressured from behind. I think this increases more based on how closely matched your car is to the field. In that way it may be related to how many a-spec points a race would give. While I don't believe these have a hard-coded cap, I assume that these all have an upper limit on them with machine skill and battle skill limited by the amount of cars/races in the game and course skill limited by the number of tracks. I believe the overall b-spec skill is just an amalgamation of the 3 other numbers. You won't get any points for redoing some races in b-spec because your guy will have learned all he can from that race in that car.
My stats are:
B-spec skill: 6612
Machine skill: 76
Course skill: 68
Battle skill: 61
3,070 mi.
 
You get B-spec points for running a race not just for winning.

The amount of points you get is most likely based on the same 3 factors as A-spec points. 1. weight compared to opponents. 2. Weight-power ratio compared to opponents. 3. power compared to opponents.

However, your B-spec driver will have a more difficult time driving heavy or very powerful cars unless he has high skill.

This post ^^ has explained skill points pretty well. As far as I know no one has yet got over 100 points in these areas, perhaps that is the maximum

Like A-spec points you cannot repeat races to improve your B-spec points. In other words if you get x points for a race if you want more than x points you'll need to get >x points, the amount in excess of x you earned will be then added to your total. They are otherwise unrelated to your A-spec points.

The more B-spec (total and skill) points you have the better (faster) your driver will be. Like anybody new to the game the more practice s/he gets the better s/he'll be.

If you run any part of a race in B-spec you are awarded only B-spec points and NO a-spec points.

I hope that helps.
 
Before I've run a Race in B-Spec, then re-done it in A-Spec, does this help at all? As far as I remember I still got some kind of A-Spec Points (although not many). I think the harder the race is, the more points you get. I ran one race without a turbo & it was something like a 25 Point Race in A-Sec, when I put the turbo on (as I lost before) it was only a 15 Point, I'm guessing this is because I upped my cars performance to give it an edge over the others.

Something I've not done yet & not sure how is switching between the 2 between races. How is this done? I'm guessing only when you're in the Pits, but is it only when you start in B-Spec Mode or can you switch when running on A-Spec too & Pit?
 
i've got some info.. not much but.

if you are in a race and are running A-Spec, at ANY time in the race, if you switch to B-Spec.. even a lap.. A-Spec gets no points .. 0.. none..

sad... even if you do that whole 24 hours thing, and then can stand a few minutes and go B-spec.. all that A-spec time gone to waste
 
This thread had some useful info mixed in there.

At first I didn't use B-spec for anything. After reading through that thread and some others I realized I needed to beef up my B-boy's stats if I wanted him to run well in the enduros. So at the beginning of this week I started b-specing factory races. Different cars, tracks, and levels of competetion. Started at zero and now I'm at 4718 overall skill and 50's for the other stats. The individual skill points probably max at 100.

Thing is I haven't done THAT many races in b-spec. Before I started b-specing I had done about 70 races in a-spec. Since then I've done about 40 in b-spec yet I have twice the amount of b-spec points. So I think something eles must come into factoring how many points you get per race. Becasue for the b-boy to win he usually has to be in an overpowered car compared to the rest of the field. If you ran the same overpowered car in a-spec you'd get like 1 point.
 
From day one, I let my B-Spec Driver drive super-suped up cars, and well, he drove better than I did. I've never lost a race with my co-driver.
 
My B-Spec driver is horrible and i think he's mocking me. Every time he gets near a car to overtake at all, he lets off the throttle.

Think i need to give him a 'Ring beating for about an hour.
 
Giancarlo
My B-Spec driver is horrible and i think he's mocking me. Every time he gets near a car to overtake at all, he lets off the throttle.

Think i need to give him a 'Ring beating for about an hour.
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Yep, that's why you set it on Overtake, so most of the time instead of braking, the driver will go beside the car. Usually if the car is more powerful, you will get ahead.
 
sealc403
lol my B-Spec driver was doin a 12 lap race and about 10 seconds ahead, yay you might think, lap 11 he pits in jackass and gets owned
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Yeah! The same happened to me! And he drives like a fool at times, even with the "drive by" active he sometimes lets go of the throttle!!! SUCKS! He loses a
1 point race! I meen, in a spec you earn 1 point, but in b spec he cant win...!! :crazy:
 
The Bspec man can be a tool at times, no doubt. But honestly, I don't think they put in bspec just so we could sleep through all the races, sometimes you need to baby him and tell him "hey dude, they all pitted, so you can pit" or "hey bro, there's only one lap left and you have enough gas.. slow down a bit to save the tires and don't pit" But on the topic of what the points mean, it's intriguing and I hope someday we'll know for sure
 
Another REAL b-spec question: If you run in b-spec and look at that statistics screen, you can see a small map in the right, right? Well if you press on the "x" button, that map changes to something that shows bars and colours, red behind my car, WTH is it, it's something with times but what, dunno how you can search this at the SEARCH button, so anyone that does know the anwser??
 
G-T-4-Fan
Another REAL b-spec question: If you run in b-spec and look at that statistics screen, you can see a small map in the right, right? Well if you press on the "x" button, that map changes to something that shows bars and colours, red behind my car, WTH is it, it's something with times but what, dunno how you can search this at the SEARCH button, so anyone that does know the anwser??
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I think it has something to do with sector times and which sector each car is in....you can tell which car is best in a certain sector
 
sealc403
lol my B-Spec driver was doin a 12 lap race and about 10 seconds ahead, yay you might think, lap 11 he pits in jackass and gets owned
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I haven't used B-spec for any Endurance races yet, but I heard that the pit light will come on before he pits and if you press the pit button it will turn off and he won't pit.
 
Does the screen always return to the race instead of the racemonitor when the driver takes a pitstop? I was racing the Laguna Seca endurence today but dinner was ready so I took a pitstop and let B-spec do the rest. I first put it on the monitor screen and speeded up the time 3 times but when i got back it was just runing on normal speed folowing the race live. That could get iritating during a 24 hour race.
 
den brakke
Does the screen always return to the race instead of the racemonitor when the driver takes a pitstop? I was racing the Laguna Seca endurence today but dinner was ready so I took a pitstop and let B-spec do the rest. I first put it on the monitor screen and speeded up the time 3 times but when i got back it was just runing on normal speed folowing the race live. That could get iritating during a 24 hour race.
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yup, it does that always. that's because your driver needed to pit in during the race to change tires and refuel. the game always returns to normal speed when pitting in, and you need to put it back into x3 speed when your car gets back on the track. it's irritating, but better like this than doing every race completely in real time. imagine, 24 hours at 'Ring.. :crazy: :sick: :scared: :eek:
 
Azhur
Machine skill is the skill your driver has at handling cars. The way I've found to increase this is to use a variety of cars. Course skill is knowledge of the tracks in the game. From what I've seen I believe every track in the game will increase this by 1 point and reverses count separately from the normal track. It should only be 1 or 2 races before you get this.
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I don't think that's the case. I've got machine and course skills above 50, but I KNOW I haven't used b-spec enough for each course to be 1 course skill.

Also, I got my overall b-spec points up to like 5500 pretty quick, but since then it's sort of fluctuated up & down a little bit. (Or maybe just up...it's just not changing as much as it did at first, which was like 1500 points per race).
 
Leonidae
yup, it does that always. that's because your driver needed to pit in during the race to change tires and refuel. the game always returns to normal speed when pitting in, and you need to put it back into x3 speed when your car gets back on the track. it's irritating, but better like this than doing every race completely in real time. imagine, 24 hours at 'Ring.. :crazy: :sick: :scared: :eek:
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Yes that's true but i tought you could start a 24u race early in the morning then get to work/skool after 9hour get back and the race is done. now you need to stay with it to get it done quicker.
 
Thanks for the responses to Azhur and Dbart. I've really been sort of baffled by the lack of explanation on the subject, so thanks for your assistance.
 
den brakke
Yes that's true but i tought you could start a 24u race early in the morning then get to work/skool after 9hour get back and the race is done. now you need to stay with it to get it done quicker.
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well, I don't think that teachers will approve that as a reason to stay home. :rolleyes: Imagine when your teacher would see your note: "I won't come to school today because i have to drive 24 hours in the Nurburgring because my co-driver is too stupid to do it all by himself.. " :crazy: ;) oh well, maybe I should give it a try.. :lol: :D
 
den brakke
Yes that's true but i tought you could start a 24u race early in the morning then get to work/skool after 9hour get back and the race is done. now you need to stay with it to get it done quicker.
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Here's a question for you...

How on earth do you get the game to stay in the stats screen after a pit stop? I'm currently doing the 24 hour 'Ring endurance, and every time he pits, it switches to the live view and stops going at x3 speed. Granted, it doesn't seem to do anything detrimental, as the last time I checked, my driver was comfortably ahead, but instead of taking 8 hours at x3, it'll take closer to 24 hours, as I don't have the time to babysit the game.

Unless I'm missing something obvious here... *lol*
 
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Ok is this a first. Somebody just asked a question in a thread that was answered only 5 or 6 posts back. I mean come on, now people won't even read the thread itself.
 

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