A thing that is bugging me, Performance of competition...

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<div class="bbWrapper">Ok, here is the thing.<br /> <br /> It is about how not so well, the competition behaves. So far, one of the most challenging and exciting races I have done was the last F1 series in Pro. I mean, I was nervous, 99% of the time. The competition was always a second behind me. That is how GT3 should be always, from beginners.<br /> <br /> When u start the race. Competition is tight for the first few laps. After that it is an easy win. There should be Hp limit as GT2 used to do. That way, GT would be more challenging. <br /> <br /> Sometimes I feel guilty using a 700hp Speed 12 against 400hp Raybrig NSX&#039;s?<br /> <br /> U get the idea?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <i>Originally posted by Tercel_driver </i><br /> <br /> Sometimes I feel guilty using a 700hp Speed 12 against 400hp Raybrig NSX&#039;s? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Try racing with a more equal matchup. Use a turbo 2 instead of 3 for the races where you know the competitors are lower hp. Or use the exact same car as them, like a base hp Raybrig NSX. You can do the Preview for a race to see what cars the computer will be driving (if it is a race you have not done yet or do not know the competition well enough.)<br /> <br /> Can&#039;t say that this is what I always do, I love my :ruf: RGT too much to deny it 1077 hp <img src="/wp-content/themes/gtp16/images/smilies/sly.svg?v=3" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":sly:" title="Sly :sly:" data-shortname=":sly:" />. But after I reach 100% or near it I&#039;ll probably go back and do races just for the challenge.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Yeah, I understand what you mean Tercel... However, I was running the GT All Stars race in Pro last night, and I tried to be even with the competition by bringing in an unmodded 787B, and the R390 just <i>creamed</i> me! Then, I got mad and installed a turbocharger in my 787B, and it still was ahead! Plus, I knew that the R390 never pits, so I was screwed... but, I just didn&#039;t have the heart to use an F1 car... so I really have no clue what to do... :indiffere</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <i>Originally posted by youth_cycler </i><br /> <b>Yeah, I understand what you mean Tercel... However, I was running the GT All Stars race in Pro last night, and I tried to be even with the competition by bringing in an unmodded 787B, and the R390 just <i>creamed</i> me! Then, I got mad and installed a turbocharger in my 787B, and it still was ahead! Plus, I knew that the R390 never pits, so I was screwed... but, I just didn&#039;t have the heart to use an F1 car... so I really have no clue what to do... :indiffere </b> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> You should drive faster, duh!<br /> <br /> <img src="/wp-content/themes/gtp16/images/smilies/biggrin.svg?v=3" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <i>Originally posted by youth_cycler </i><br /> <b>Yeah, I understand what you mean Tercel... However, I was running the GT All Stars race in Pro last night, and I tried to be even with the competition by bringing in an unmodded 787B, and the R390 just <i>creamed</i> me! Then, I got mad and installed a turbocharger in my 787B, and it still was ahead! Plus, I knew that the R390 never pits, so I was screwed... but, I just didn&#039;t have the heart to use an F1 car... so I really have no clue what to do... :indiffere </b> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Oh its tre its true this series annoyed my allot. I first attempted it with a fully tuned R390 Road car. It was fun but the racing was very close and in the End I lost out by about 2 poins on Tokyo R246. I then tried it with a stock GT-0ne Racer. I won a few races but on most of the highspeed tracks I kept getting killed. I then just assumed that the cars were tuned and slapped the Spec 3 turbo on and rinced the series 3 times over. <br /> <br /> The problem is that you sometimes sont know how powerfull the competition is. In the first GT this Problem was eliminated by being able to check the power and weight of the opponents cars in the setup screen. In GT2 you had the Power restrictions which was another good thing. I swear that if you look on the Series menu where it says what is not or not allowed there is a BHP restriction, but for some reason it is not used at all which is stupid. Well I think there is a BHP one Im not sure. Blah blah blah blah blah</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <i>Originally posted by Y2TUSCAN </i><br /> <b>Oh its tre its true this series annoyed my allot. I first attempted it with a fully tuned R390 Road car. It was fun but the racing was very close and in the End I lost out by about 2 poins on Tokyo R246. I then tried it with a stock GT-0ne Racer. I won a few races but on most of the highspeed tracks I kept getting killed. I then just assumed that the cars were tuned and slapped the Spec 3 turbo on and rinced the series 3 times over.</b> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Ugh... I would use a GT-One, but I <b>hate</b> the constant noise that the Blow Off Valve makes... it drives me on the edge of insanity! Grr... you can only get a stage 1 turbo for the 787B... <img src="/wp-content/themes/gtp16/images/smilies/irked.svg" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":irked:" title="Irked :irked:" data-shortname=":irked:" /><br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <i>Originally posted by Y2TUSCAN </i><br /> <b>The problem is that you sometimes sont know how powerfull the competition is. In the first GT this Problem was eliminated by being able to check the power and weight of the opponents cars in the setup screen. In GT2 you had the Power restrictions which was another good thing. I swear that if you look on the Series menu where it says what is not or not allowed there is a BHP restriction, but for some reason it is not used at all which is stupid. Well I think there is a BHP one Im not sure. Blah blah blah blah blah </b> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yup... even if you look in the Preview, there&#039;s no way to tell how fast the cars truly are (due to tuning, tires, etc.) until you&#039;re in the race... which is annoying, because usually you either bring in a totally underpowered car and lose, or bring in a totally overpowering car and have no fun.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <i>Originally posted by youth_cycler </i><br /> <b><br /> Ugh... I would use a GT-One, but I <b>hate</b> the constant noise that the Blow Off Valve makes... it drives me on the edge of insanity! Grr... you can only get a stage 1 turbo for the 787B... <img src="/wp-content/themes/gtp16/images/smilies/irked.svg" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":irked:" title="Irked :irked:" data-shortname=":irked:" /> </b> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> You must have to drive allot of N/A cars if you dont like the sound of the turbo dump valve. The spec 1 turbo only brings the Gt1 to about 700 bhp 3 gives about 980 bhp. The 787b needs some setting up to drive with the extra turbo. I remember tuning it on my last save and the damn thing just liked to not stop and plough off the track. Ill sort that out when I get my second 787b. Anyways now I have a R390 Gt1 Race car and im gonna clap that seres goooD to get my second Viper concept</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I cant believe you dont like the sound of the blow off valve. <br /> I die to hear them in the races, besides thats the best sound you can hear in a real car. <img src="/wp-content/themes/gtp16/images/smilies/biggrin.svg?v=3" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /><br /> When I race a series race, I usually go to the last race of the series and go to the qualifying round to see how I stack up to the competition. <br /> Ive noticed the cars get more aggressive and faster as you go to the ending of the series to the last race. <br /> Qualifying isnt the same as the actual race, so its just a barometer on the competition. The actual race will prove more difficult than the qualifying so be prepared. <br /> Good luck.<br /> Misnblu</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Well, I just won a Toyota GT1 Race car last night, and I guess I&#039;m more tolerant of it now... it&#039;s still annoying though if you go over a rumble strip, because then it goes off like mad! <img src="/wp-content/themes/gtp16/images/smilies/tongue.svg?v=3" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":p" title="Tongue :p" data-shortname=":p" /><br /> <br /> BTW, last night I stuck a Turbo Stage 4 on the GT1 and went to Deep Forest Raceway... holy cr•p it&#039;s so much fun when you get into 5th gear on that thing on the back straightway! <img src="/wp-content/themes/gtp16/images/smilies/biggrin.svg?v=3" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I havent played long enough on the gt3 to win the really nice cars. <br /> Ill eventually get a f1 car and really kick some arse with it. <br /> Its such a pain to have to race measley races just to earn money for mods. All in time before the cars and money get good. <img src="/wp-content/themes/gtp16/images/smilies/biggrin.svg?v=3" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /><br /> Misnblu</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">well you shouldnt feel guilty about the speed 12 vs 400 hp nsx&#039;s, the nsx&#039;s are meant for RACING.... while the speed 12 is for both racing and street, and besides yer goind against 5 other racers....</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <i>Originally posted by 1mic </i><br /> <b>well you shouldnt feel guilty about the speed 12 vs 400 hp nsx&#039;s, the nsx&#039;s are meant for RACING.... while the speed 12 is for both racing and street, and besides yer goind against 5 other racers.... </b> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yes, but, there&#039;s a huge horsepower difference... <b>that&#039;s</b> what makes it unfair to use a Speed 12 against an NSX.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <i>Originally posted by Tercel_driver </i><br /> <b>Ok, here is the thing.<br /> <br /> It is about how not so well, the competition behaves. So far, one of the most challenging and exciting races I have done was the last F1 series in Pro. I mean, I was nervous, 99% of the time. The competition was always a second behind me. That is how GT3 should be always, from beginners.<br /> <br /> When u start the race. Competition is tight for the first few laps. After that it is an easy win. There should be Hp limit as GT2 used to do. That way, GT would be more challenging. <br /> <br /> Sometimes I feel guilty using a 700hp Speed 12 against 400hp Raybrig NSX&#039;s?<br /> <br /> U get the idea? </b> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>do the all japan race in professional. there was a little more competition that other races....unfortunately it wasnt the right kind. the whole pack sticks together and they just ram the crap out of you every time u get in first. on one part of the back straight on rome circuit i got rammed by two cars, and i caught the lip and went from 120 to 0 in .2 seconds <img src="/wp-content/themes/gtp16/images/smilies/mad.svg?v=3" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-shortname=":mad:" /> <img src="/wp-content/themes/gtp16/images/smilies/mad.svg?v=3" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-shortname=":mad:" /> <img src="/wp-content/themes/gtp16/images/smilies/mad.svg?v=3" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-shortname=":mad:" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I thought of a way to prevent this unfair advantage. GT4 should let you pick cars out of your garage to race against. This way you know the exact HP and settings each car has. That wasy you can have really fun races. Imagine running against your own tuned cars.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <i>Originally posted by speedy_2 </i><br /> <b>I thought of a way to prevent this unfair advantage. GT4 should let you pick cars out of your garage to race against. This way you know the exact HP and settings each car has. That wasy you can have really fun races. Imagine running against your own tuned cars. </b> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>That sounds pretty cool to have that feature.<br /> Good idea. <br /> Now if they had truly artificial intellegance in the other cars, they wont do so much ramming and get out of the way. <img src="/wp-content/themes/gtp16/images/smilies/lol.svg?v=3" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="LOL :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> <img src="/wp-content/themes/gtp16/images/smilies/biggrin.svg?v=3" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /> <br /> Misnblu</div>
 
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