Aardvark Garage. 450pp Stratos

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  1. Jefry

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    @MrGrado would u make a Stingray drag tune
     
  2. MrGrado

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    no, sorry.
     
  3. m1ekomcc

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    great tune, helped me alot, im looking for a tune 650pp clk lm racecar, would really appreciate your help
     
  4. MrGrado

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    Audi R18 TDI (Audi Sport Team Joest) '11
    626PP
    Tuned 25 April 2014

    Tyres
    Racing Soft

    Suspension
    Full Custom Suspension
    ride height: 85 85
    spring rate: 16.21 17.52
    bound: 5 6
    rebound: 3 2
    sway: 3 5
    camber(-): 1.1 1.4
    toe: 0.09 0.09
    Racing Brakes
    brakes: 7 7

    Transmission
    Full Custom Transmission

    (1) Set final drive to 2.000
    (2) Set max speed to 470km/h
    (3) Set values:

    4.758
    2.552
    2.018
    1.512
    1.229
    0.999
    final: 2.220

    Drive Train
    Full Custom Differential
    14 / 30 / 21

    Power
    Limiter: 100%

    Body
    Ballast: --
    Downforce: 300 500

    GT Auto
    Change Oil: No
    Increase Rigidity: Yes
    Wheels: --
    Fitted Parts: --

    Tuner Notes
    As requested, R18 tune RS tyres, min downforce, no ballast, stock BHP. Faster than 3:35 at sarthe '13
     
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  5. MrGrado

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    BMW Concept 1 Series tii '07
    480PP
    Tuned 30 March 2014

    Tyres
    Sports Hard

    Suspension
    Full Custom Suspension
    ride height: 90 90
    spring rate: 8.00 8.00
    bound: 6 6
    rebound: 3 3
    sway: 7 7
    camber(-): 0.0 0.0
    toe: 0.00 -0.40
    Racing Brakes
    brakes: 6 6

    Transmission
    Full Custom Transmission
    3.673
    2.260
    1.805
    1.421
    1.115
    0.960
    final: 3.220

    Drive Train
    Full Custom Differential
    5 / 50 / 25
    Triple Clutch
    Carbon Shaft


    Power
    Limiter: 92.7%
    Racing Exhaust
    Isometric Exhaust manifold


    Body
    Ballast: --
    Weight Reduction stage 2
    Window weight reduction


    GT Auto
    Change Oil: No
    Increase Rigidity: Yes
    Wheels: --
    Fitted Parts: --

    Tuner Notes
    can't get transmission tuned?
    1. fit standard transmission
    2. fit custom transmission
    3. set top speed: 330km/h
    4. set gear ratios

    Recommend not to rev past 6500.
     
  6. ebel

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    Hey
    Hey man. So many thanks for this tune. Managed a 3:32.76 with a modified version of this tune (stock gearing). However, there are rumors that there have been changes to the physics since last night's patch. Can you review this tune to confirm that it still functions as intended?
     
  7. MrGrado

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    Yeah, in a day or two I can for sure.
     
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  8. MrGrado

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    I have taken a look at the tune. I would say there have been some changes for sure. For me, riding over kerbs and how TCS works with this tune is a night and day difference from 1.06. I would say the tune got more docile too. There might have been changes to TCS and/or RS tyres. It's possible there was more or different changes to car physics also. I have not seen what other people have experienced yet, so this is just my first impressions of 1.07 without bias or influence from what other people have written. I was able to brake later also. I think, directly or indirectly suspension settings were effected. There might be a whole new level of potential performance to discover in this Audi (and all other tunes also).

    Try these alterations if you like.

    Suspension

    spring rate: 16.21 18.55
    sway: 3 4
    camber(-): 1.6 1.9
    toe: 0.12 0.06

    Drive Train
    10 / 33 / 21

     
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  9. ebel

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    Thanks man.
     
  10. MrGrado

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    Tune coming soon. DS3. ABS: 0. Aids off. RH tyres.

     
  11. MrGrado

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    v1.09 Update

    Tuning guide improved and amended. Some existing tunes to be updated soon. New tunes coming soon also. Hooray for 1.09
     
  12. Daduce1947

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    Thanks much MrGrado for posting this run. Too cool!!:gtpflag:
     
  13. MrGrado

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    Ford GT '05
    600PP
    591BHP
    1191kg
    44:56

    Tuned 30 October 2014

    Tyres
    Racing Hard

    Suspension
    Full Custom Suspension
    ride height: 79 82
    spring rate: 7.81 11.34
    bound: 4 6
    rebound: 3 5
    sway: 3 3
    camber(-): 1.5 2.2
    toe: -0.18 0.48
    Racing Brakes
    brakes: 6 6

    Transmission
    Full Custom Transmission
    Reset to default then:
    3.607
    2.203
    1.820
    1.441
    1.112
    0.910
    final: 3.444

    Drive Train
    Full Custom Differential
    12 / 23 / 23
    Triple Clutch

    Power
    Limiter: 91.5%
    Engine Stage 1
    Sports Chip
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    Intake Tuning


    Body
    Ballast: 2@0
    Downforce: 0 220
    Weight Reduction stage 3
    Window weight reduction
    Carbon bonnet


    GT Auto
    Change Oil: no
    Increase Rigidity: no
    Fitted Parts:
    custom rear wing
    front aero type A

    Tuner Notes
    Improved tune from my entry in ford challenge. Tune built after competition resolved and built with track knowledge and tuning knowledge gained from participating as tuner and test driver.

    Result: a tune that comprehensively outperforms all the official entries when driven at the limit.

    Less raw while maintaining urgency in corners. Some of the huge mid torque traded for more top rpm horsepower.

    Daytona Road Course: 1:38.502
    (Same testing conditions as ford challenge)
     
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  14. MrGrado

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    Ferrari Enzo
    600PP
    679BHP
    1081kg
    45:55

    Tuned 12 November 2014

    Tyres
    Racing Hard

    Suspension
    Full Custom Suspension
    ride height: 70 70
    spring rate: 7.88 15.03
    bound: 2 7
    rebound: 4 4
    sway: 1 2
    camber(-): 1.4 1.9
    toe: -0.35 0.12
    Racing Brakes
    brakes: 6 6

    Transmission
    Full Custom Transmission
    Reset to default then:
    Max 410 km/h
    3.167
    1.814
    1.440
    1.165
    0.900
    0.732
    final: 4.400

    Drive Train
    Full Custom Differential
    8 / 29 / 29
    Triple Clutch

    Power
    Limiter: 94.0%
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    Sport Cat
    Intake Tuning


    Body
    Ballast: 0@0
    Downforce: 20 55
    Weight Reduction stage 3
    Window weight reduction


    GT Auto
    Oil: std
    Rigidity: std
    Wheel Size: std
    Fitted Parts:
    custom wing A


    Tuner Notes
    A tune to see how good the Ford GT is. This has far superior power to weight, so better acceleration and top speed. As it is now, handling not as good.

    Tune loosely based on the Ford GT. This is very difficult to drive fast, but it is possible to achieve a good lap time. Speed comes from driving smooth and accurate.

    Daytona Road Course: 1:37.625
    (Same testing conditions as ford challenge)
     
  15. MrGrado

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    I have some tunes at 450pp, if anyone would like to try them, let me know. Otherwise I won't bother posting them. They meet the requirements for the current event but were tuned at Bathurst. The fastest lap I managed was 1:31.xxx

    The cars include:
    WRX
    GTO
    IS200
    Camaro

    The performance of these cars will surprise more than few people I'm sure.
     
  16. MrGrado

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    I have tuned/tested more cars at 450PP. Not all meet the requirements for the last tuning contest although they are 450pp and on comfort soft tires. Here is the fastest tune so far 1:29.xxx. It was not even especially tuned for Bathurst, just a tune lying about in my garage. It was tuned for an online hot lap event.

    Toyota MR-S
     
  17. Lionheart2113

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    I'd say post them, I know I would be interested in seeing the tunes! Nice job getting one under 1:30.:bowdown:
    :cheers:
     
  18. MrGrado

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    Gizza Bro 12C GT3
    584PP
    548BHP
    1157kg
    43:57


    Original Tune
    GT Auto
    Oil: std
    Rigidity: increased
    Wheel Size: std
    Fitted Parts:
    custom wing A


    Tyres
    Racing Hard

    Suspension
    Full Custom Suspension
    ride height: 55 58
    spring rate: 13.43 17.84
    bound: 5 8
    rebound: 5 3
    sway: 2 4
    camber(-): 2.9 1.4
    toe: -0.26 0.36
    Racing Brakes
    brakes: 6 6

    Transmission
    Standard Transmission

    Drive Train
    Full Custom Differential
    5 / 40 / 23
    Triple Clutch

    Power
    Limiter: 88.4%
    Sports Exhaust

    Body
    Ballast: 52@26
    Downforce: -- / 85
    Weight Reduction stage 3
    Carbon Bonnet
    Window weight reduction
    Tuned 2 February 2016

    Tuner Notes
    Base car is the Mclaren MP4-12C.
    Bathurst: 2:00.402
    Only very fast cars will match or beat this time on racing hard tyres.

    I started at 600PP with no ballast or engine limiter and made the car slower as the tuning got better to try keep the fastest lap times around 2:01.500. After a while I stopped adding weight as it was making the car much less nice to drive.

    The tune is in celebration of the Mclaren win at the Bathurst 12 hour race recently.

    To be some what of a replica, tyres had to be slicks, ride height had to be super low, a rear wind was mandatory for looks and horsepower had to be limited (because the GT3 race car is engine limited to allow other competing cars a fighting chance).

    It was nice to see a car that is obviously built for high performance win the race rather than a brick with upgraded brakes and engine.

    Second Tune
    GT Auto
    Oil: std
    Rigidity: increased
    Wheel Size: std
    Fitted Parts:
    custom wing A


    Tyres
    Racing Hard

    Suspension
    Full Custom Suspension
    ride height: 55 58
    spring rate: 13.43 17.84
    bound: 5 8
    rebound: 5 2
    sway: 4 5
    camber(-): 3.5 1.5
    toe: -0.26 0.32
    Racing Brakes
    brakes: 6 6

    Transmission
    Standard Transmission

    Drive Train
    Full Custom Differential
    5 / 40 / 23
    Triple Clutch

    Power
    Limiter: 88.2%
    Sports Exhaust

    Body
    Ballast: 52@26
    Downforce: -- / 85
    Weight Reduction stage 3
    Carbon Bonnet
    Window weight reduction

    Tuner Notes
    tuned for endurance and online. the original tune was not good online with the added weight for fuel. It could only manage 2:03.8. First fix was higher roll bars, this improved lap times immediately. The tune still needed more ability to steer better so I increased front camber and decreased rear toe. Again, this was immediately better so I tested with lower front camber to be sure of my settings. At some point rear rebound was adjusted, this helps front grip during Coasting and braking.

    with The new settings, laps in the 2:02 region are possible and laps are generally faster. It is now easier to drive more Consistent.
     
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2016
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  19. MrGrado

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    here are the 450 pp cars in my garage. Listed by weight.


    2600 carma ecosport
    2400 Silverado
    2100 Charger '11
    1900 gtr '07
    1800 RS4
    1800 monaro
    1700 viper gts '02
    1600 240 estate
    1600 gtr n1 '91
    1600 countach
    1600 z06
    1500 300zx
    1400 nsx
    1400 gto
    1400 esprit
    1400 z28
    1400 f40
    1300 s2000
    1300 skyline gtst
    1300 s2000
    1300 nsx
    1300 c2 coupé
    1300 volvo c30
    1300 f40
    1300 viper gts '02
    1300 R390
    1200 pt cruiser
    1200 piazza
    1200 evo 3
    1200 is200
    1200 e type
    1200 nsx
    1200 280zx
    1200 120d
    1100 lancer 1800
    1100 rx7 '91
    1100 86racing
    1100 clio rs
    1100 tesla roadster
    1000 250gt '61
    1000 mg tf 160
    1000 v8s
    0900 ka
    0900 v8s
    0700 motor sport elise
    0700 beetle 1200

    lap times on page 1 of my garage.

    tunes to be posted soon.
     
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  20. MrGrado

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    Aston Martin DP 100 VGT
    600PP
    568BHP
    1445kg
    46:54


    Tune
    GT Auto
    Oil: std
    Rigidity: std
    Wheel Size: std
    Fitted Parts: none


    Tyres
    Sports Soft

    Suspension
    Full Custom Suspension
    ride height: --
    spring rate: 14.67 16.50
    bound: 7 7
    rebound: 5 4
    sway: 5 6
    camber(-): 2.9 2.4
    toe: -0.47 0.42
    Racing Brakes
    brakes: 6 6

    Transmission
    Full Custom Transmission
    5.500
    3.170
    2.562
    2.031
    1.646
    1.321
    1.097
    2.640
    Reset to default, set top speed to 420, then set values.

    Drive Train
    Std

    Power
    Limiter: 71.1%

    Body
    Ballast: 70@-12
    Downforce: -- / --

    Tuner Notes
    Tuned 25 March 2016
    Bathurst: 2:04.531

    Tuned for online hot lap event. It likely has a bad power to weight ratio for a 600pp tune thanks to heavy engine limiter and high downforce. It's not going to lap as fast as other cars but this tune should help this car do about as well as it can do.

    Media
     
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2016
  21. MrGrado

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    Tommykaira ZZII
    600PP
    647BHP
    975kg
    48:52


    Tune
    GT Auto
    Oil: std
    Rigidity: increased
    Wheel Size: std
    Fitted Parts: none


    Tyres
    Sports Soft

    Suspension
    Full Custom Suspension
    ride height: 68 75
    spring rate: 6.95 9.09
    bound: 2 3
    rebound: 9 6
    sway: 5 6
    camber(-): 2.4 1.5
    toe: -0.36 0.06
    Racing Brakes
    brakes: 8 8

    Transmission
    Full Custom Transmission
    5.039
    2.860
    2.185
    1.809
    1.450
    1.207
    2.500
    Reset to default, set final drive to 2.500, set top speed to 390km/h, then set values.

    Drive Train
    Std

    Power
    High RPM Turbo
    Limiter: 92.9%

    Body
    Ballast: 55@35
    Downforce: 145 / 200

    Tuner Notes
    Tuned 6 April 2016
    Bathurst: 1:58.445

    Tuned for online hot lap event. Drives great and easy to drive fast.

    Fastest lap done with engine overhaul and power limiter at 87.3, camber at 1.9 1.2 and final gear at 2.530

    Media
     
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2016
  22. demonchilde

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    I love the spoiler use idea for posting tunes.
    Huge thumbs up on that.
    Space saving, organized, better overall look.
    I will most likely utilize that now that I have seen how well it works.
     
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  23. MrGrado

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    @demonchilde thanks. Yeah, It's been a work in progress to get the tune posts looking neater for a long while now. I think I have it how I like it now. I'm also thinking ahead to new Gran Turismo releases on PS4, i'm hoping it will be straight forward to get good quality video footage out of the PS4 and into the forums.
     
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  24. MrGrado

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    Oops. That should be 2:30!
     
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    I had a feeling it was a typo, but didn't know if you were using fuel from your space ship!:mischievous:
     
  26. MrGrado

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    Ferarri Enzo
    550PP
    468BHP
    1150kg
    47:53


    Tune
    GT Auto
    Oil: std
    Rigidity: std
    Wheel Size: std
    Fitted Parts: rear wing


    Tyres
    Racing Soft

    Suspension
    Full Custom Suspension
    ride height: 71 72
    spring rate: 8.98 15.99
    bound: 4 5
    rebound: 4 3
    sway: 3 3
    camber(-): 1.9 1.9
    toe: -0.33 0.10
    Racing Brakes
    brakes: 6 6

    Transmission
    Full Custom Transmission
    3.966
    2.316
    1.878
    1.456
    1.180
    0.982
    3.480


    Drive Train
    triple clutch
    LSD: 11 21 23

    Power
    Limiter: 71.1%

    Body
    Ballast: 69@-43
    Downforce: -- / 55

    Tuner Notes
    Tuned 10 December 2016
    Nring: 6:31.940

    Tune gives a very high level of confidence. Caution advised over crests and during ultra high speed braking.

    Media
    coming soon.
     
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    Lancia Stratos '73
    450PP
    250BHP
    1000kg
    45:55


    Tune
    GT Auto
    Oil: --
    Rigidity: increased
    Wheel Size: --
    Fitted Parts: --


    Tyres
    Comfort Soft

    Suspension
    Full Custom Suspension
    ride height: 100 100
    spring rate: 3.5 5.5
    bound: 5 8
    rebound: 4 5
    sway: 6 6
    camber(-): 1.6 2.0
    toe: 0.25 0.80
    Racing Brakes
    brakes: 4 5

    Transmission
    Full Custom Transmission
    Top Speed 310
    3.125
    1.774
    1.419
    1.145
    0.928
    4.100

    Drive Train
    Full Custom Differential
    38 / 50 / 45
    Triple Clutch

    Power
    Limiter: 87.4%
    Engine 3
    Sporrt Computer
    Racing Exhaust
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    Catalitic Converter: Sports


    Body
    Ballast: 143@-23
    Downforce: --
    Weight Reduction stage 3
    Carbon Bonnet
    Window weight reduction

    Tuner Notes
    Tuned 31 January 2017

    Bathurst: 2:28.0

    Gears
    • Set Final Drive.
    • Set top Speed
    • Set ratios.
    Not a car for beginners, will require the use of opposite lock and brake/throttle modulation.
    Shift at 7100RPM.

    This 450pp tune is over a whole second faster than any other 450pp tune I have at Bathurst, so I will elaborate a little on the process of tuning this.

    A lot testing went into gears and power parts. Right now it has every part to increase RPM, but the car doesnt perform well in the higher RPM's, it's a luxury to be able to have a nice short 5th gear and still be able to reach a good top speed. Isometric Exhaust Manifold was fitted so that peak power is available all the way to the end of the RPM range. This might be slightly harming performance for most of the lap.

    I knew right from the start that this would be a bad car for tuning out oversteer, so Increased Rigidity and high values for LSD were used right from the start. I had a preference to not use too much balast too far forward to tune out oversteer. The LSD initial value was the last setting I tweaked and it made the car more controlled and I found a lot of time. It might have been something like 25, and I went to 40 or higher, then dialled it back to 38. So the Initial setting reduces oversteer when coming off the throttle or brake. Toe values were always high as well.

    Other settings were not adjusted so much, so there may be more speed to potentially find from the car. But I have been tuning car after car after car at 450pp for Bathurst, so I know I'm fairly close already at aproaching peak performance.

    Looking at the data logger, this tune has slightly worse handling but much better straight line performance compared to another very fast tune I have.
     
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  28. MrGrado

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    Camaro Z28 Coupe '97
    450PP
    281BHP
    1400kg
    49:51

    Tune
    GT Auto
    Oil: --
    Rigidity: -- (deteriorated)
    Wheel Size: --
    Fitted Parts: --

    Tyres
    Comfort Soft
    Suspension
    Full Custom Suspension
    ride height: 87 87
    spring rate: 9.44 9.12
    bound: 6 6
    rebound: 3 3
    sway: 4 4
    camber(-): 2.7 2.7
    toe: -0.32 0.37
    Racing Brakes
    brakes: 6 7
    Transmission
    Full Custom Transmission
    Top Speed 330
    2.685
    1.669
    1.284
    1.079
    0.894
    0.746
    3.680
    Drive Train
    Full Custom Differential
    5 / 27 / 11
    Triple Clutch
    Carbon Propeller Shaft

    Power
    Limiter: 98.8%
    Body
    Ballast: 151@23
    Downforce: --
    Weight Reduction stage 3
    Carbon Bonnet
    Window weight reduction
    Tuner Notes
    Tuned 2017
    Bathurst: 2:31.275
    Gears
    • Set Final Drive.
    • Set top Speed
    • Set ratios.
    • (I think so, didn't check)
    Smoothe driving car, power to weight a little low. Peak torque too low in rpm range hurts pp. Should out perform other "modern" Comaro's and Corvettes at this PP with its lower stock torque (inherit's the other high performance elements of similar chev's).

    Really a tune that will engage the driver. Watching my lap again, there is lots of part throttle mid corner. A fast lap will need controlled driver input.
     
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