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Hi everyone, i writing from Bogota - Colombia, I have a question about the game, i search information about break engines, but i dont find a correct answer

I read about that after use a car for many race, the car brake the engine.

1. How I know that the engine is brake???
2. How many miles need to brake a engine???
3. What happend when I break a Engine, and i can fix the engine??
4. How do you repair the engine??
5. When you repair the engine, the horse power of the engine are the same to a new car???


thanks for the answers
 
When we talk about engine breaking, we are talking about the first 250 miles on that engine. During that time the engine actually gains more horsepower and torque.

As for actually "breaking" them, no it's not going to happen. The worst you can do is not change the oil or overhaul the engine.


The GTAuto shop in GT mode is where you can take care of engine maintenance.
 
La Gargola
Hi everyone, i writing from Bogota - Colombia, I have a question about the game, i search information about break engines, but i dont find a correct answer

I read about that after use a car for many race, the car brake the engine.

1. How I know that the engine is brake???
2. How many miles need to brake a engine???
3. What happend when I break a Engine, and i can fix the engine??
4. How do you repair the engine??
5. When you repair the engine, the horse power of the engine are the same to a new car???


thanks for the answers
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Greetings.

1. When you buy a car, note the BHP. After you have driven the car for a number of miles, you'll notice the BHP increase and then eventually start to decrease. Once the BHP starts to drop, you have broken your engine in.
2. Reports vary, but I find that 300km or 150 miles is enough.
3. You can't really "break" an engine. As per point 1, keep an eye on your BHP. As it starts to fall, take it to the GT Auto shop and change the oil. After approx 3000km or 1500 miles, it is advisable to rebuild the engine. This is also done in the GT Auto shop.
4. See point 3.
5. Yes. But only up to a certain mileage. If you have high mileage on a car, it won't ever return to the max BHP that it started with.

I believe there are special tickets that PD gave us in the recent 2.0.3 update (perhaps before that) that when used restore a car to its original condition. Although I don't think it restores it entirely. I'm sure someone will be along to provide the correct information 👍

{Cy}
 
A new engine needs to be driven more carefully the first xxx miles, not accelerate like crazy and dont keep it in the red zone ... .

In GT5 its just that every race your car gets a little more Power untill you reach the maximum power.

Thats what they mean by break in the engine :p
(not broken as in destroyed) its strange i know :)
 
GT 5 term definitions:

Engine Break-in: The first 200 miles or so of driving a brand new engine as it changes from its initial state to its ideal maximum horsepower state.

Engine Braking: The act of carefully downshifting while slowing for a turn to keep the RPM as high as possible without over-revving. Can significantly reduce stopping distance for some corners, and aid turn-in rotation slightly in others.

Breaking an Engine: This term is probably not used as often as the others. Engines can be damaged from impacts with Mechanical Damage on. Significantly reduces power, but never to the point of shutting down entirely. No permanent effect after the race.

Engine Wear: As mileage mounts(several thousand miles), an engine becomes "old" and begins to lose power that can only be regained by restoring the engine in GT Auto.


The word "braking" is often misspelled as "breaking" and the two are pronounced the same. Yes, it is confusing.


This post only meant to help, no disrespect to anyone intended. :)
 
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Morgoth_666
Engine Wear: As mileage mounts (several thousand miles), an engine becomes "old" and begins to lose power that can only be regained by restoring the engine in GT Auto.
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To add to this, eventually the mileage reaches a point where an engine rebuild will not restore full, broken-in horsepower, too. At that point, you have to use one of the new car refresh tickets to reset the mileage of the car.

Then, an engine rebuild will restore full power again. 👍

Engine Wear Guide
 
I am posting in this thread to seek some answers also:

I have a Mercedes SL600 (R230) '04 which I cherish dearly.
Last week the BHP was at 1025BHP and the car was topping 273MPH at the SS:RX.
Yesterday however, my i noticed my BHP has now dropped to 1022BHP and can just hit 271MPH.
I only use this car online, never driven offline, and yes it's involved in many online races.
So I took it to the GT Auto thinking that it may just need an oil change, or an engine overhaul. So I went, and surprise surprise it tells me the oil is in good condition and does need a change. It didn't even give me the option to even oil it anyways.
This was the same story with Engine Overhaul. :(

So my question after all that is:
Do the GT Restore Tickets put the miles back to Zero and also restore your performance or will it permanently go down?

P.S my car is at 22,xxx Miles so I was expecting this, just wondering if there's a way to save my SL600!
 
Yes the refresh tickets will take your Benz back to zero miles and then you will have to Break it in (181 miles). Then you have max hp :) Dont worry bout your Benz she's gonna make it ;)
 
At 22,000 miles you'll be getting into unrecoverable wear, so yeah... it's time for a restore ticket or a replacement if you demand max hp.
 
Morgoth_666
At 22,000 miles you'll be getting into unrecoverable wear, so yeah... it's time for a restore ticket or a replacement if you demand max hp.
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It's actually more like 16K.
 
Slashfan
It's actually more like 16K.
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Its 16KM.. kilometers. 10K Miles as I said earlier. after 10K Miles your car loses roughly 1hp and 1tq permanently and can never be recovered.

It also increases with mileage. ~20k ~2hp lost ~50k ~5hp lost

I have been testing this all week
 
Thanks for the help guys! Now relieved I don't have to replace my car with another one! :D

G36E
I've always wished for rust and engine breakdown in GT
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I haven't. Real life problems like these I feel aren't necessary and don't have a place in a game where you are trying to have fun, IMO.
 
I'm ok with engine wear, it adds up to the illusion of realism.
If only it was the same with tires and gas.
I wonder if we will see one day different gasolines and sets of tires, you use them, you loose them.

thx for the info btw
 
Morgoth_666
I wasn't saying where it started... aadil717 said his car had 22,xxx miles on it, so I meant that was probably already past the point where it becomes permanent, that's all.
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Oh I got you.
 
G36E
I've always wished for rust and engine breakdown in GT
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If we had this then we would have problems like: "There is rust on my Corvette! How!? It's made of plastic!" etc.
 
CyKosis1973
3. You can't really "break" an engine. As per point 1, keep an eye on your BHP. As it starts to fall, take it to the GT Auto shop and change the oil. After approx 3000km or 1500 miles, it is advisable to rebuild the engine. This is also done in the GT Auto shop.

{Cy}
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Is there a particular reason ? I'm looking at some of my cars that have 6000 km and they're only down about 2 horsepower. Seems awfully expensive for 2 horsepower.

I've narrowed it down to somewhere in the 5500 km (3418 mi) range. I have a car with 5497 km on it and the engine overhaul shows no HP or PP increase while a car with 5574 on it (next most mileage) shows a 1 HP gain.
 
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I look at older cars like this.

What gain do I get from an oil change? What gain do i get for an engine rebuild? If the rebuild gives me a deal more than an oil change, I put my imaginary hand in my imaginary pocket and rebuild the engine. DON'T change the oil first as a rebuild does this anyway!

I think the OP was confused by the USAish terminology of 'breaking in' an engine, over in the English speaking part of the right hand side of the pond we 'run in' engines which describes it better I feel.

Money is not a problem if you do as I do and spend a lot of time running the Challenges, so far I've nearly bought the entire new car garage and am working on the UCD!
 
byegad
I look at older cars like this.

What gain do I get from an oil change? What gain do i get for an engine rebuild? If the rebuild gives me a deal more than an oil change, I put my imaginary hand in my imaginary pocket and rebuild the engine. DON'T change the oil first as a rebuild does this anyway!

I think the OP was confused by the USAish terminology of 'breaking in' an engine, over in the English speaking part of the right hand side of the pond we 'run in' engines which describes it better I feel.

Money is not a problem if you do as I do and spend a lot of time running the Challenges, so far I've nearly bought the entire new car garage and am working on the UCD!
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I usually just change the oil and wait for another one to show up in the UCD/OCD with less than 10,000 km on it and then "upgrade" by selling the old one.
 
Jmac279
Is there a particular reason ? I'm looking at some of my cars that have 6000 km and they're only down about 2 horsepower. Seems awfully expensive for 2 horsepower.

I've narrowed it down to somewhere in the 5500 km (3418 mi) range. I have a car with 5497 km on it and the engine overhaul shows no HP or PP increase while a car with 5574 on it (next most mileage) shows a 1 HP gain.
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If you're only down on power by a few horse power, I'd continue just changing the oil. Cunningly these days, you can see the return for either changing the oil or rebuilding the engine, so once you start to see an engine rebuild granting you more power than an oil change, then it's time to rebuild 👍

{Cy}
 
seanneedscar
Engine is broken in after 180 miles

After 10,000 miles the engine 'brakes' and loses hp forever.
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is this true?

what about GT auto engine repair?? I never had engine problems and I never repair BODY and very rare ENGINE.. and Im not having any problems with HP loss...

PS I do change oil and repair engine for used cars.. but then I never go back to GT auto.
 

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