Add option to restart race in a championship

[o9lifted]

Actually, not having restart option is a stupid idea. Not because I like to defeat championship idea, but because THERE IS option to restart the race.
You just need to suspend the championship and exit the game. Then start the game again and play from suspended position. If you loose, then restart the whole game (not race) again. And you can do this as many times as you want until u get desired result.
That's why having this "long way" option, it's stupid to not allow restart the race as usual.

Actually, GT5/6 have a lot non-logical behavior and features. Strange that in 15 years PDI still makes the game looking like made by novice developer.

The option to suspend race is mostly there for you if you have to quit becouse you gotta go or something that wont make you finish the series in time, its not really ment for you to get lucky and gold it all in one shot!

 

[s-oso]

With save, there is no point in championship then, is it? Anyway, there really is no need for it. Point difference between first and second place is huge and your main rival will not always be fastest AI, so on average you only need to win three of five and be around fourth place on the rest to win it all.

I do miss practice, tho. Often I loose whole championship only because it'll be the first time with certain car on unknown track.

 

[grog]

Actually, not having restart option is a stupid idea. Not because I like to defeat championship idea, but because THERE IS option to restart the race.
You just need to suspend the championship and exit the game. Then start the game again and play from suspended position. If you loose, then restart the whole game (not race) again. And you can do this as many times as you want until u get desired result.
That's why having this "long way" option, it's stupid to not allow restart the race as usual.

This is your back door way of doing this, it is not an official way for restarting. This save manipulation is in a gray area that developers didn't intend for us to toy around with. Do as you will I don't care, but to say this is an actual option is way off base.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

If you want every single race to be super easy, you might want to stop playing racing simulators, because they simulate real life.

GT simulates what it's like to drive a car in real life. But that's where it ends.

 

[Bo]

I was wrong saying racing simulator for the whole game, but the way the championships work is definitely realistic.

 

[eSZee]

Just be happy NASCAR isn't a championship.
I understand rubbin' is racin' but don't think pit maneuvers fall under rubbin'.

 

[Bo]

It's NASCAR, so I expect contact. I would be a bit upset if they didn't ram you.

 

[Chrix12]

 

[twitcher]

Although I would never use a feature like that myself, as I enjoy the added pressure that a championship can add, I don't see any reason to not have that feature in the game. As others have said, there is a way to "restart" a race in a championship, it just takes a bit of a stupid, round-about way of doing it. And it has been this way since the ability to suspend a championship was introduced.

Since we are talking about a single player feature here, the way someone else plays their game has ZERO effect on my enjoyment of the game, so I would have no problem seeing a feature like that added. I just wouldn't use it.


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And by begging for championship restarts, you look like a novice driver. If you lose because you kept crashing, tough. You weren't fast enough. Having every single race incredibly easy to win in defeats the whole objective of racing - you will never have a desire to do better or improve your skills. PD are doing you a world of good by making you pay for mistakes, because it makes you want that win and want to improve. If you want every single race to be super easy, you might want to stop playing racing simulators, because they simulate real life.

This is the most ludicrous thing I have read in a while! Do you seriously think people need PD, or anyone for that matter, to guide them through their gaming experience?? And you're stretching it by making claims that GT is a true racing simulator that simulates real life...

 

[e-racer]

And you know that's incredibly tedious, right? Please say yes.

Yes.

 

[SillyBillyP]

I'd say: don't add a restart option. No restart = heightened tension. Exciting!

 

[Bo]

This is the most ludicrous thing I have read in a while! Do you seriously think people need PD, or anyone for that matter, to guide them through their gaming experience?? And you're stretching it by making claims that GT is a true racing simulator that simulates real life...

Read post #35, I didn't mean to call the game a racing simulator, just the way a championship is laid out is closer to realism (for example, no restart). The whole reason a restart option isn't implemented into the game is for realism, it makes you pay for bad driving. It's the only vaguely realistic structure we have left in GT, so I would hate for it to be taken out. And yes, some people do want to become a good driver on GT. They do that by learning to pay for their mistakes, so they don't keep crashing. I don't want GT to become something that gives the most idiotic of drivers with no skill the possibility of golding everything. It means you don't have to try. It weakens the whole gameplay experience.

 

[kizz29]

There is a way to practice. Suspend the championship, run the track on it's own to get your gearing correct, then go back in.

i thought once you suspended a race

The way to do this is to practice the tracks in Arcade mode before competing in the Championship. I had to practice with the 125 Shifter Carts because i was unfamiliar with both the tracks and the carts. I also learned how to set the gears for the tracks.

I believe the Championship format is the most challenging encountered in the GT series and should be kept as is.

Keeping in mind this is a simulation game. Every championship racing series has qualifying and practice (no restarts). But it doesn't really matter. If you can't beat the AI in this game one would need to find another game to play. The real challenge is online against true racers and you better believe you will have practice before each race and start based on your practice speeds (qualifying).

 

[Mustangmiha]

I don't think that was possible in any GT ever.

 

[GTracer98]

So you want to destroy the main idea of championhips in GT?

 

[ryandtw]

Just be happy NASCAR isn't a championship.
I understand rubbin' is racin' but don't think pit maneuvers fall under rubbin'.

Probably it's all because of the "restrictor plate" changing that makes it a hassle - Daytona (obviously), Motegi and Indy (unnecessarily) use restrictor plates; Willow Springs and High Speed Ring do not.

 

[CeeJay]

I normally don't use the suspend championship method because I don't feel the need to come in first in every race but I did do it for the STUPID championship kart races.. I really wanted to win the gold for the races but man.. one spin and the whole race was over! Ugh my gosh I never want to do those kart races ever again!!!!!!!

 

[lazywolfe]

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[mu22stang]

This thread highlights that a group of individuals exists that play this game solely for the purpose of collecting trophies. They complete a championship or race just once to get their little stars and trophies, then move on. Probably the same group that complains that they have to "grind" to get a car they will never drive.

 

[Exorcet]

Then there would be no reason to have championships at all. The entire game would just be single races. I vote no.

This is almost as bad as that "rewind" button in forza. No risk = no challenge = no fun.

And this idea still even after all this time only exists in the minds of certain people. It is completely disconnected from reality.

Let's use the rewind example. How many races have I rewound in Forza?

Now with the restart button, how many race losses are automatically removed and how many championships become only a collection of single races?

I think the restart button should be added, it's another option. Something that changes nothing in the game but allows more people to be satisfied.

PD are doing you a world of good by making you pay for mistakes, because it makes you want that win and want to improve.

Forcing things on other people is a service? Would it be to service to us all if PD forced SRF on in the game at all times?

 

[Broseph]

^ They are also forcing me to actually drive in races! And not only that, they are forcing me to have to finish in first place to win races! They should remove those requirements as well. Seriously, how dare they make me play their game this way. I want to hit a button and win the game instantly.

FYI, this is nothing new. Pretty much very game ever made has had rules and requirements to accomplish goals, and there have always been people around to bitch about it because it's either too hard or they're too lazy. BREAKING NEWS!!! Games often have challenges and/or objectives that not all people can complete!

I can think of literally hundreds of video games where you're given a fixed amount of lives and when you run out of lives the game is over. Now, if the game is too hard for you and you cannot beat the game with the supplied number of lives (or within the given time limit, etc.) according to your mentality, that is bad game design and the game creators should have given you unlimited lives/time/continues just so you could finish the game? Well that's just dumb. It's not bad game design, it just means that the game is too hard for you.

And making people complete a consecutive series of races is in no way comparable to forcing a driving aid on for the entire game. That's just asinine.

 

[Exorcet]

^ They are also forcing me to actually drive in races! And not only that, they are forcing me to have to finish in first place to win races! They should remove those requirements as well. Seriously, how dare they make me play their game this way. I want to hit a button and win the game instantly.

How else are you going to win except by coming in first?

FYI, this is nothing new. Pretty much very game ever made has had rules and requirements to accomplish goals

And many have been unnecessary and/or counter productive. Yes nothing new. There's no reason to withhold a restart button. Use it or don't.

and there have always been people around to bitch about it because it's either too hard or they're too lazy. BREAKING NEWS!!! Games often have challenges and/or objectives that not all people can complete!

2D games have been around longer than 3D games, so let's ban 3D games. Tradition isn't a reason.

Now, if the game is too hard for you and you cannot beat the game with the supplied number of lives (or within the given time limit, etc.) according to your mentality, that is bad game design

Please support this with any evidence, any at all.

And making people complete a consecutive series of races is in no way comparable to forcing a driving aid on for the entire game. That's just asinine.

It's exactly the same. A forced option that should just be left up to the player instead. There is no reason to not have restart, just like there is no reason to have SRF forced on in any event. They should both be options.

 

[NixxxoN]

WHAT

Seriously... I will say only one thing... Improve. Be a better/faster driver. That's the point of this game.
Or you can always get a faster car.

 

[Exorcet]

Seriously... I will say only one thing... Improve. Be a better/faster driver. That's the point of this game.
Or you can always get a faster car.

This just misses so many points. Just try to look beyond the 2 mm slit in the cardboard.

The point of the game is fun.

 

[BlauPunk9000]

To me the Championships are a different objective:
Single Race = Learn to be fast
Championships = Learn to be consistently fast

If you can restart a race, then there is no distinction between the championship and doing the races one off... other than auto loading the next race. That is the added challenge of a Championship.

 

[Exorcet]

To me the Championships are a different objective:
Single Race = Learn to be fast
Championships = Learn to be consistently fast

If you can restart a race, then there is no distinction between the championship and doing the races one off... other than auto loading the next race. That is the added challenge of a Championship.

The thing is this remains perfectly in tact with the restart button, but then you get the added bonus of a restart button to use whenever you or anyone else feel like using one for any reason.

 

[NixxxoN]

This just misses so many points. Just try to look beyond the 2 mm slit in the cardboard.

The point of the game is fun.

The point of the games are to have fun but ALSO to play them good enough to complete them and beat the challenges

The thing is this remains perfectly in tact with the restart button, but then you get the added bonus of a restart button to use whenever you or anyone else feel like using one for any reason.

No. Wrong. You either do the whole championship without repeating anything or you don't.

 

[e-racer]

...but then you get the added bonus of a restart button to use whenever you or anyone else feel like using one for any reason.

Like when you can't be consistently fast?

 

[Exorcet]

The point of the games are to have fun but ALSO to play them good enough to complete them and beat the challenges

No it's up to the player entirely, which generally just comes down to having a good time. If you want your challenge, just don't use the button.

Also

Or you can always get a faster car.

Why does it doing things your way suddenly make it all OK?

No. Wrong. You either do the whole championship or you don't.

And what is wrong? Restart option won't change anything so there isn't even a real reason to oppose it.

Like when you can't be consistently fast?

That could be one reason.

 

[baldgye]

I would like to add a practice option to set my gears properly, and maybe a qualifying option too.

Do that and it becomes way too easy. The only challenge is navigating the AI from last place in under a hand full of laps