After one week of play....

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I don't care about this thread. And I like that you can't unlock every wheel/rims like you could do it GT3. You guys are just too negative 👎 And unlocking stuff in GT mode for Arcade is a bit of challange. And 2P battle , yeah, that isn't my thing anyway.
 
Yeah I know theres drift. Its on Tele!! But what im saying is, I think its more of a style of driving and a way you have your car set up, rather than switching on drifting mode.

I like drifting, it looks bloody hard to do. And your correct, drifting tourneys and competitions would be great. Because its not just a NFS thing.

The best thing about games is gameplay, you are dead right. But I dont think adding more cars affects that. But if that graphics in GT4 went DOWNHILL, then lookout. This game would score 8.5's everywhere.

Photo mode however. I think is a total waste of time... Its only useful use ( ;) ) really, that I can imagine, is providing the public with cool looking screen shots pre release.

Oh, and I am dissapointed to find out the SL55 lost its slick shift! Thats the only reason I thought it could keep up with the M5 in prologue.
 
John BM on b spec-

I've always said it was like for people who either aren't great racers or totally inexperienced to Gran Turismo, much less any other racing game.

Not all of us like doing 3 billion lap races :P

Some one told me there are 40+ lancers...please tell me this isn't true, because if it is, it kinda makes a joke of the 600+ cars thing. And taking out 2 player garage races, what a STUPID STUPID move.

I'm still looking forwards to GT4, just not quite as much anymore.
 
You see, this is why I talk about actually giving things a chance rather than nit pick over little scratch. So how would I feel about this? Well, I think about it like the MegaMan series. Each game was beat some bosses, acquire their weapons, use them against others in an attempt to find a weakness, beat the final enemy, and enjoy. The formula for the MM series worked pretty damn well since 1987. How does this relate to GT? The game can still be fun. What? Do you want to have Capture the Flag in GT4? Collect 50 coins before the race comes to an end? Acheive 2,000,000 points in one race? GT has and always will be about the thrill of driving and the essence of competition. After reading a lot of some of the negatives about GT4, it had me thinking. Is this game really going to be bad when it hits stores here in the States? I'd reserve my judgment until I actually PLAY the game. I'm a bit different on things, as many of us are. As I've said, I'm not going to let three years of anticipation go down the drain. And I don't think GT4 will end up being the GT2 of PlayStation 2.

And NavyAD, were you really looking forward to GT4 all to be disappointed, or are you just pulling our leg on GT4?
 
And one more thing, when the next GT hits stores and a new feature or such is introduced, let's give it a chance before deciding if it's going to be a piece of crap. Are we clear?
 
john, im not really dissapointed, im just seeing a lack of inginuaty. besides photomode of course, which is fun. but that makes me customize my car a lot, seeing as i can take photos of beautiful vehicles. and ive had the game since 9 am on the 28th, so i have played quite a bit of it, im critisizing the fact that its just more of the same as we had before, and yeah i would like capture the flag, just like the coffee breaks, the objective is to either hit or avoid cones, so why not have some more fun with that, they have funky music in some of the menus, so its not all seriuos. anyway, opinions are opinions are we clear?
 
If someone looking into the game read this thread they would think GT4 is a bad game or something...christ the game is a flat out classic without a doubt.
 
MrSabu
If someone looking into the game read this thread they would think GT4 is a bad game or something...christ the game is a flat out classic without a doubt.

I gotta say this thread has me worried, Saying that i thought prolouge was brilliant i cant see how adding more too that is going too make it worse for me? the wheels thing seems a bit stupid though.
 
MrSabu
If someone looking into the game read this thread they would think GT4 is a bad game or something...christ the game is a flat out classic without a doubt.

From what I've heard GT4 isn't worthy of 'classic' status. Sounds like an evolution rather than a revolution which it could so easily have been, possibly even without online mode.

I think of classics like Doom 1, Half-Life 1, Grand Theft Auto 1, Gran Turismo 1 etc... etc... games which actually did something new & it sounds like GT4 is thin on the ground in that department. Hell it seems yet again theres only 1 wet track? Its a joke when we've waited this long. Even the numbers of the game don't hold up in my opinion it seems like they've done shortcuts to meet the number e.g. 49 Skylines, 5 renditions of Fuji Speedway. And wheres the race mods!?

They should have spent less time messing about with all the bloody promo demos.
 
Ducati999
i thank the b-spec mode. Hell, its racing the 24 HR Nurburgring Endurance for me right now... 23 more hours to go..............

Personally, I intend to drive (A-Spec) all 24 hours of this and other endurance races.
So what if it takes me a week to finish. It will really sharpen my driving skills when I drive the car myself.

I think B-Spec mode is okay for some, but not for me. Besides, I don't think B-Spec mode will help you when we're competing online :sly: .

...Drive on Players
 
People on this thread are making GT4 sound like a horrible game, but look at all the reviews that are giving this game 9s and 10s does this show the game is bad.
 
I think what has happened is, & i dont know really how to say it is, but alot of folks have become victims of their own anticipation.

We have been tossing out so many wants, whats in, the game has this, the game has that, that the game has become old news before it is even 2 weeks old. i think there was so much talk about what they think should be in & what they heard or someone mentioned, that everyone started to believe it all was there.

i can rememeber before GTP, or atleast i knew of GTP, that i waited for the game without knowing anything about it. other than what i might have read in a magazine or something. i remember waiting for GT1. i read a small article in Autoweek about it coming out in May 1998. this was like Dec. or Jan. this was the first i had heard of it. well, being a import car guy, i couldn't wait till then. i bought a PSone from a pawn shop just for GT1. then, May 13 1998 it was on. when i got the game, it was very exciting, exploring & finding out what it was all about.
racing my own car at the time (1992 Civic Si, Captiva Blue) vs the world.
learning all the ins & outs of the game as i progressed. i literally put thousands of hours in before GT2 came out. i remember calling everyday asking when & if it arrived yet. even when it came out, i didn't know anything about the details of it. Learned as i went.

now, i find myself knowing everything about Gt4 & i can't say that the same anticipation is there.
the excitment seems to have fallen somewhere in the "this game sucks ass" & "I cant believe they hurried this piece of crap", granted those are exaggerations, but the sediment is there.

no one knows what is involved in making a game of this magnitude, so for everyone to be breaking balls for it taking so long, then to piss on their work for what whatever reason seems kind of ungrateful.
Now don't get it twisted, i'm not saying that we should be grateful for PD, SONY, or KY, but the fact that there is a GT4 to be played currently.
I'm not trying to give KY & PD a shine here, but just the benefit of the doubt.
You could also look at it in a worse case scenario, what if there wasn't a GT anymore. what if KY & PD said: "You know what? No thanks, we're good, thanks for playing...."

now think of all the other games that usually everyone here trys to defend GT against. well, you would have to find one of those to hold dear, because GT would be no more.

By the way, if what PD does isn't that hard to do, i wonder why none of these other games have seemed to master it.

I am sure that at the beginning of development, they have a certain amount of goals for the game that take alot of work. photomode for example. i bet that it took a whole lot of development time to integrate that feature. well, after laying down the millions of dollars i'm sure it cost to make. they couldn't justify just dropping it in favor of say drift competition, when drift competitions may not have been on the top of list of goals when development started.
so with SONY & the public demanding a release date & you have to make some decisions about what can stay & what has to go.

who knows about the 2 player garage thing. i am sure that there is a pretty good reason for its exclusion that we may never know, unless KY comes out & says why. it may have something to do with the online or something & what they have planned for online.
like the Sony exec said "he has a working version of the online game on his desk", this may mean that they have their own plans for how the online enviroment will be.
Just as in the points system, you have to focus on driving, rather than tuning & high HP.

paint shops? original colored cars? trust me, no color is original. if it was then you just made one up that no one has ever seen before.

buying & keeping wheels for all cars. well, the RL wheels from a Civic dont fit on a LMP car, so you may have to deal with it.
they seem to have changed the whole wheel & tire thing i believe anyways.

well sorry, i have typed a novel here, but i was getting down about this game & i didnt like it, so i had to speak up.

i am a day late, but i just fumbled around & with some trickery, got the no time limit Japan demo working last night on my HDD. and i am now in much anticipation for GT4 & the vast selection of cars to be able to run on the Ring. not to mention the **** load of other tracks in the game that nobody has ever seen before in the same game. i am into GT for the driving, cars, & tracks. which i believe what the core element of GT is. all the other stuff is just bells & wistles. if it's there great, if not, that's OK too. the amount of locations, cars, & improved graphics & physics is just what i would EXPECT from another GT game. just as a reference of how far it has come, dust off your PSone and fire up GT1 & see what one you like better.

just remember to only a scant 11 day ago, when the first images & talk of the game emerged. how great it was, how awesome it was.

now whats the talk?....it seems that,sometimes technology & the information age are not always that great.
 
My 3.5 year old son loves watching the opening movies and trying to drive High Speed Ring in GT3; I can definitely see where B-spec will be entertaining for him to watch since it's an extended replay movie (for him) and I can continue to race without fighting for the controller the whole time (in-car view for him is a bit boring since you don't see the cars through the whole race).

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I cant see myself using B-spec mode at all.
 
seriously, i think they spent WAY too much time on "trying" to make a perfect game engine. its beautiful and very accurate. not still, not perfect. after ALL these years, the final product still seems to be rushed out. i think mainly is that they wasted alot of time working on the online play of the section and it didnt work out. the game wasnt as complete as in GT2 or GT3. backfiring was a last minute thing. it doesnt work out to be very accurate. basically, it backfires when ever u downshift no matter at what speed or RPM, oppose to cars actually backfire when u lift off the throttle.

one easy solution for this game is to offer expansion disk. this is something i'm really look forward to in the future. new cars and track and events once in a while would keep us busy. but the problem is that PD cant create a GT that would use the system's full potential. with GT5, they are probably gonna push it to around 25% of the PS3 pontential, while using the experience in GT5, they can use the full power of PS3 in GT6. by that time, it would be near the end of the PS3 life cycle. and releasing expansion in support of the game wouldnt be wise as they wold start to work on GT7 on PS4.
 
Hyde
seriously, i think they spent WAY too much time on "trying" to make a perfect game engine. its beautiful and very accurate. not still, not perfect. after ALL these years, the final product still seems to be rushed out. i think mainly is that they wasted alot of time working on the online play of the section and it didnt work out. the game wasnt as complete as in GT2 or GT3. backfiring was a last minute thing. it doesnt work out to be very accurate. basically, it backfires when ever u downshift no matter at what speed or RPM, oppose to cars actually backfire when u lift off the throttle.

one easy solution for this game is to offer expansion disk. this is something i'm really look forward to in the future. new cars and track and events once in a while would keep us busy. but the problem is that PD cant create a GT that would use the system's full potential. with GT5, they are probably gonna push it to around 25% of the PS3 pontential, while using the experience in GT5, they can use the full power of PS3 in GT6. by that time, it would be near the end of the PS3 life cycle. and releasing expansion in support of the game wouldnt be wise as they wold start to work on GT7 on PS4.

so would you play GT3 or GT4
 
I feel sorry for those who are not happy with the game.

There are those who beat games and those who play games. I play games, All those problems wont bother me one bit. I never beat GT2 or GT3. I just play them and look forward to b-spec mode so i can watch my car race around tracks since half my play time is watching those pretty replays.

Les all play it and voice our own opinions rather then judging the game from someone elses opinions. Nothing agisnt hyde, just those who shun the game without playing it.
 
LaBounti
I feel sorry for those who are not happy with the game.

There are those who beat games and those who play games. I play games, All those problems wont bother me one bit. I never beat GT2 or GT3. I just play them and look forward to b-spec mode so i can watch my car race around tracks since half my play time is watching those pretty replays.

Les all play it and voice our own opinions rather then judging the game from someone elses opinions. Nothing agisnt hyde, just those who shun the game without playing it.


I was disappointed at first by some things left out of the japanese version,
but have sence come to agree with what you are saying,''think your right''
well said 👍 :)
 
Gt4 is that what it was suppose to be. I never would play again GT3. GT4 is lightyears better than GT3. Thats the fact. The physics and graphics are so much improved....... And the best thing of GT3 was the i-link mode where i spend a lot of time. And thats what i expect for GT4 - to spend more time with my friends and have beautiful races.

relio

Thanks PD for such a great game!
 
askia47
so would you play GT3 or GT4

Ill be glad to continue never playing GT3 again, it was IMHO the worst in the franchise of games, offered very little in the terms of realistic feel, and derivied very little from it in terms of gameplay.

Prolgue has already provided many, many more hours of enjoyable driving than GT3 ever could, dont even like to think How many hours of enjoyable lapping GT4 will bring! :D
 
Some of you guys are complaining because you are tired of waiting for GT4. I bet when it hits stores in the USA and Europe every one will be happy. You don't like

B-spec mode or photo mode? ignore it.
You don't like the fact that once you buy a set of new rims for one car and then have to buy a new set to put on another? well face it, in real life if you buy rims for your car, they don't give you a hundred sets do they?
You don't like the fact that there are 50 different Lancers in the game? well drive only two, there are plenty of other cars to drive even if there are 50 variations of other cars. Besides if we take out the 40 variations of Lancers and Subarus then we will have about 400 totaly different cars to drive, and that is a lot!! more than Morza will have to offer!

I'm sure we are all going to love this game as much as we loved the others. And don't worry GT5 will blow us away. :sly:
 
Too much whiney crap in this thread.

If you want custom paint jobs/rice go play NFSU... there are plenty of colours for most car models in GT4.. and personally I'd rather have realistic paintjobs of the cars in it than the chance to just hammer out my own all the time.

I don't see how so many rants can come from people here. GT4 is very good... it's been so overhyped due to so much anticipation that we expected far more than we were ever gonna get.. that's just how it goes.

GT4 has Nurburgring and Le Mans.. those are two things we never thought would ever show their faces on the PS2... there are many more additions... the only real bad missing hole in this GT game is the lack of garage cars in mp and mp replays being unsavable...

Other than that there aren't a lot of problems with it... you can pick holes in it all you want. If you think it sucks so much go and buy an Xbox and Forza.. oh wait it's not out yet.. but ok buy an Xbox and the stupid Steering wheel they have available for it and wait for Forza.

GT4 is brilliant... just look how the suspension and cars respond to the tracks now... it's come on so far..
 
Let them complain... Maybe they'll decide not to buy it... The there will be a better chance for someone who hasn't read all the previews, all the rumors, all the speculation, all the complaints, or hasn't played the GT franchise before, to pick up a copy...

Fact being, not everyone is a GT fanatic, the game wasn't made specifically for GT fanatics only... Players new to the series will most likely be overwhelmed with all the features, modes, races, and cars...

People need to look at all the facts, and know what they're talking about before they open they mouths... 3 years of production... That's actually not a long time when you take into consideration all the planning, conceptual development, research, data collection, technical development, tweaking, etc that goes on... Not to mention the press release, demos etc that were released so Fanatics like you folks can catch a glimpse of what's to come...

Sure they missed some things, have minor mistakes here and there... No one's perfect... I'm sure technical mistakes in cars or tracks are minimized to less then 5% (keep in mind 5% roughly translates to 5% of 700 cars = 35 cars totally way off)...

With all the complaints and BS about how PD/sony should have made it... How about all you people complaining, form a company, and develop "the perfect" racing game with online-play, Drift mode, all the tracks, a car list that will satisfy everyone that also contains 0% errors, perfect physics, feature every known type of upgrade to a car, miss-firing systems, race-modifications, 2P battle mode with own garages, real-life damage, don't forget, it also has to be innovative, new and all be done in less then 3 years... Good luck...

I haven't played the game yet, and even after hearing all the complaints, and seeing all the previews, I'm still really looking forward to the game... I will take the game for what it is, just like GT3 which I still play till this day...

Oh well.. *puts on flame-suit*
 
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