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I want damage so bad it's not even funny......but damage without improved AI is a waste.

For discussion offline only since AI is only present offline

Without getting into a long, specific explanation of how/why/what/etc, think about your races when you come in contact with another car. Is it your fault? Is it a reflection of your poor driving skill? I tend to think it is not. It's a reflection of the poor AI. So when/if damage is implemented will it be worth it, or will it be a bandaid to cover the poor AI?

What do you think? What is your opinion?
 
Well its hard to say. Damage will bring in alot of problems with it that will bring in more problems, confusion, and questions. Everyone seems stirred up about it and it doesnt even exist yet. Polyphony isnt perfect and bringing something completely new to the series isnt worth it. They wont pick damage over AI and I believe they have more important priorities... Thats how I see it though.
 
I agree with Soprano 3 1 3, after playing prologue it appears they want to try new features and polish up other features before moving onto to damage. For me, one the areas they added that I love is the in-car view. I think when PD does add damage it'll be done right but until then, tweaking the A.I. is much more of a priority. I want to see a mix of driver behavior on the track, slow drivers, fast drivers, aggressive drivers and A.I. battling out themselves.
 
The only thing that worrys me about AI is PD always promises better AI like GT3 says "Oppenents come to life with "Emotion" physics", yet it never gets improved. Maybe they should out-source there AI like, dare I say it, Turn 10 did with Forza 1. Just my .2 cents.
 
I think GT5P has already improved AI. If you fallow a really clean racing line, and don't push the car that fast, the AI starts to block you if you try to over take, and once you over take them they wont side hit you when you are next to them, best seen on the Oval Daytona track.. People just need to use their brakes lil more ;)
 
getting a realistic damage behavior/model consistent with the crazy attention to detail of the rest of the game, would take much more development time than coding up some additional AI overtaking and blocking maneuvers

i still dont understand why kazunori blabla doesnt target that area of the game much heavier

oh wait, because it's a "driving" simulator, not a "racing" one :crazy:
 
I agree with Soprano 3 1 3, after playing prologue it appears they want to try new features and polish up other features before moving onto to damage. For me, one the areas they added that I love is the in-car view. I think when PD does add damage it'll be done right but until then, tweaking the A.I. is much more of a priority. I want to see a mix of driver behavior on the track, slow drivers, fast drivers, aggressive drivers and A.I. battling out themselves.

YES!
 
I think the AI has improved greatly from GT4. I bumped an AI car out of the way one time and he drove it so deep into the next corner (I think he was trying to catch so he could punt me).
 
I think GT5P has already improved AI. If you fallow a really clean racing line, and don't push the car that fast, the AI starts to block you if you try to over take, and once you over take them they wont side hit you when you are next to them, best seen on the Oval Daytona track.. People just need to use their brakes lil more ;)

AI bumping me is what always made me angry at the 'Ring in GT4. I go to pass on the left, and they move left to prepare for a turn. So I brake and go around to the right and try passing on the inside of the turn, and the AI sends me into the dirt/grass/wall. Mabey in GT5 they won't do that.

I like to overtake WITHOUT having to bump the AI myself.
 
I think the AI has improved greatly from GT4. I bumped an AI car out of the way one time and he drove it so deep into the next corner (I think he was trying to catch so he could punt me).



LMAO! The AI was going to attack you :lol:!? Revenge of the BOTS! I dont know if you people should be too rough with the AI this time around, cuz there learning how to retaliate haha!!!
 

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