Ai that a 3 year old could beat.

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The AI should have been the first fix by PD.
Bring back the skill level adjuster.

What a disappointment.
 
Adjust difficulty yourself with car performance, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to work it out.
 
After many failed games in the AI department I've come to the conclusion that they simply want their games to be extremely easy, there is no other possible explanation why they have done virtually nothing to improve one of the most criticized aspects of the GT series ever since the first games.
 
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The AI is wonderful after this update
Besides, what do you expect? IBM's Watson AI?
 
Wonderful? It's amazing what low expectations people have.
 
Haha, only a fanboy could describe the GT5 AI as 'wonderful'. It's atrocious.
 
Haha, only a fanboy could describe the GT5 AI as 'wonderful'. It's atrocious.

Anybody who says anything positive about this game is considered to be a ''fanboy''' to you.
 
It's been improved somewhat after the update, but:
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There's still a long road ahead:rolleyes:
 
OP has at least two new threads bashing the new features and update. Do not feed the troll (though the same people seem to be doing just that)
 
i agree on some level, yes you can drive a slower car to make it more challenging but EVERYTHING in gt5 is too easy all licenses and challenges and yet they did still make it even easier.......
 
Anybody who says anything positive about this game is considered to be a ''fanboy''' to you.

Praising the game is fine if it makes sense, but to claim the AI is wonderful is just delusion. I have plenty of positive things to say about the game, as do others, but some people just refuse to accept the drawback and bad parts of the game.
 
OP has at least two new threads bashing the new features and update. Do not feed the troll (though the same people seem to be doing just that)

So because of that he's called a Troll and no discussion can take place? It's getting to the point where it's impossible to discuss anything intelligently here without a bunch of childish, knee jerk reactions. Granted, he could have used an existing thread. There are plenty.

1.06 was a great update. PD really worked hard to patch in a lot of new features an bug fixes and I'm really thrilled with the PP system, the ballast, the additional views from online replays, the course maker, etc.

But the fact remains that the AI in GT5, while marginally improved, is AWFUL. Maybe everybody should call me a troll now.
 
Praising the game is fine if it makes sense, but to claim the AI is wonderful is just delusion. I have plenty of positive things to say about the game, as do others, but some people just refuse to accept the drawback and bad parts of the game.

That may be so, but any of your positive comments are drowned out by all your fanboy bull$hit.
 
but to claim the AI is wonderful is just delusion.

Simon- Your opinion is not the law of the land. I tend to think the AI is great after 1.06. I don't think I'm delusional for having my own opinion.
 
Simon- Your opinion is not the law of the land. I tend to think the AI is great after 1.06. I don't think I'm delusional for having my own opinion.

I'm curious, do you play any other racing games other than GT? I'm just trying to gauge the criteria with which you judge the AI. I have yet to play ANY racing game where I would rate the AI as 'great'. But compared to other games, GT certainly wouldn't be near the top of the list. Although, as ironic as it may be, I think the best AI I've ever experienced is in Superstars of V8 Racing and V8 Racing:NC, games which fell flat in many other areas. But the AI was, at times, brilliant. And certainly challenging.

I have several issues with the AI in GT5:

1. As racing drivers, they're simply inept. They brake much too early, they often miss the apex, they rarely, if ever, LATE brake, they often close the door on you when it's much too late. They're a bunch of rank amateurs.

2. They really don't seem to be having a race on their own. They seem programed NOT to actually drive quickly and win the race but to do whatever it takes to make you fail. If you're coming with good speed around an apex, they'll suddenly turn turtle slow in front of you, forcing you to brake. (OK, real drivers could do this too, but not all of them, all the time). If you brake early, they'll suddenly find their footing and accelerate early and hard.

3. They're simply slow. Ridiculously slow. It makes no sense that you have to use a car that has unequal tires or much less power in order to have a fair race. Because if you select One Make Race, within a lap or two, they're far, far behind. Even in Arcade mode on the hardest setting, they're just not fast enough to offer any competition.
 
I'm curious, do you play any other racing games other than GT?

All of them? uhh...

NFS: SHIFT
Burnout Paradise
GTA4(Racing is decent)
Modnation Racers

Those are the ones I own on PS3.
At friend's houses, Ive played...

Forza 1
Forza 3
TDU1
NFS: HP
Mario Kart
Pretty Much every classic NFS
NASCAR 06

All I can think of now
 
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I have it too. It was a mixed bag. On easier levels, they were too slow. On harder levels, they tried to murder you. And there were no repercussions for any actions. But I guess we can't expect much from a game where you earn points for shoving other cars off the road. But if they turned down the aggression, they were reasonably quick. Especially some of the one on one challenges. At times you really had to push to beat them. And if you made a mistake, it was all over.

Burnout Paradise
GTA4(Racing is decent)
Modnation Racers

I never played any of them.


Forza 1
Forza 3
TDU1
NFS: HP
Mario Kart
Pretty Much every classic NFS
NASCAR 06


I played Forza 1 at a friends house too. But (1) it was too long ago and (2) to be fair, it was an old game and not as advanced.

So we really only have 1 game in common. And not a particularly good example. But I think aside from SSV8, Ferrari Challenge is also a good example of fast and aggressive AI that was challenging and quick. And I think one could even argue that F1:2010 or F1:CE had more advanced AI than what we currently have in GT5.

For me, the state of the AI is part of what turned me off A-spec. I did manage to work my way to level 30 but I just can't be bothered playing offline anymore.
 
NFS: SHIFT
I have it too. It was a mixed bag. On easier levels, they were too slow. On harder levels, they tried to murder you. And there were no repercussions for any actions. But I guess we can't expect much from a game where you earn points for shoving other cars off the road. But if they turned down the aggression, they were reasonably quick. Especially some of the one on one challenges. At times you really had to push to beat them. And if you made a mistake, it was all over.

Great way to describe it. I will try some of the other games you mentioned, probably via a Gamefly trial. Thank you for being civil and showing me better AI examples rather than calling me a fanboy(SimonK has been attacking my posts lately). Once again, thanks!
 
Haha, only a fanboy could describe the GT5 AI as 'wonderful'. It's atrocious.

I wouldn't say it's wonderful, I definitely wouldn't say it's atrocious far from it infact. Does that make me a fanboy too? 💡
 
The AI should have been the first fix by PD.
Bring back the skill level adjuster.

What a disappointment.

haha
so true!!

maybe not a 3yo could beat the AI....definitely needs to be =>4.5yo!
:sly:
 
Thread that a 3 year old could block.

thread reported,there has been plenty of these in the past they were all block.
 
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