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the guy is fit; that fence was over 10ft. The guards around the plane would probably have shot them if they were rumbled, so it is quality graffitti.

edit; no it is a fake, did'nt consider ecko that suicidal
 
kylehnat
exigeracer, you say that your art would be pleasant for everyone, but I'm sure that the person who spraypaints "Heroin loves Willow" all over the University District feels the same way.

This is where I would draw the line between good graffiti and bad graffiti, which is stubjective and a matter of opinion.

Then you admit it's wrong, yet you still do it. Like I said, you can find legal way's of doing it, if you want to. It takes a bit more effort than just going out with a spray can though.

As odd as it is sounding, that is exactly the truth. It's not that I am too lazy to find legal ways to do it, in fact I am in the midst of writing letters to the city hall of my municipaility to start up a legal wall preferably close to my home. The idea sprung up a couple months ago when I realised how stressful illegal graffiti is. I'm talking extreme stress, nothing I have ever had to deal with in my entire life, the kind of stress that makes you sick and depressed the next day. I'll also be starting a petition presenting it as a way of taking graffiti off of private property and onto public property for permanent exhibition.

Well here's an idea, rather than you doing something illegal why don't you let the other guy do it instead, that way no one get's pissed at you.

I'm not going to quit because people don't like me. I live my life for myself and not for others. I do what makes me happy and I'm not going to get wound up because people think what I do is different or wrong.

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Heres a question, exigeracer does every wall (canvas) in your house and all your property have your art on it? (not posted on the wall but actual painted)

I don't understand your question. If I paint someone else's house with my work, would I consider it all to be art? Visual art is visual. I don't know if it is the going definition, but I see art as being solely a visual experience. I look at something and consider it beautiful, regardless of what it's on or how it came about. I don't care how it was done, if it looks nice, it is art. The way it was done should be considered, but it is purely a visual things.

Famine
[fancy colours]Out of interest, have you ever watched The Thomas Crowne Affair, Gone in Sixty Seconds, The Italian Job or Ocean's Eleven?[/colours]

I have seen all of them. I do not knowif that's how things work in real life or not, but it still doesn't change my opinion.

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I don't see a point in discussing any of this anymore, we aren't getting anywhere with it, everything has been touched upon. Mine and L4S's last few posts have been saying the same things over and over again.

Like I said, please don't judge me or get mad at me or look at me different because of what I think or said here. I'm just the only person who can contribute with first-hand experiences with graffiti and decided to speak up about the original topic.
 
exigeracer
I don't see a point in discussing any of this anymore, we aren't getting anywhere with it, everything has been touched upon. Mine and L4S's last few posts have been saying the same things over and over again.

Like I said, please don't judge me or get mad at me or look at me different because of what I think or said here. I'm just the only person who can contribute with first-hand experiences with graffiti and decided to speak up about the original topic.
Well I agree with that first comment.

I dissagree with you on the subject of discussion, but I'm not judging someone I don't know and who's work or locations of said work I've never seen, I apologise if I sounded like I was. I do appreciate that you were honest though.
 
live4speed
Well I agree with that first comment.

I dissagree with you on the subject of discussion, but I'm not judging someone I don't know and who's work or locations of said work I've never seen, I apologise if I sounded like I was. I do appreciate that you were honest though.

I never once said I have done anything illegal. Tomorow I will take my letter down to city hall and hope for an answer. If I don't get anything I will get a petition going, we'll see. Just yesterday I painted up a canvas twice, I would've done more but it was raining. Poo...

 
exigeracer
I never once said I have done anything illegal. Tomorow I will take my letter down to city hall and hope for an answer. If I don't get anything I will get a petition going, we'll see. Just yesterday I painted up a canvas twice, I would've done more but it was raining. Poo...
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Good luck, exigeracer. :) And do be careful what you show the city-folks. If they obtain your work along with your name and address, they'll know where to come knocking as soon as they are looking to bust somebody who's done a similar graffiti. ;)
 
I know how to deal with the law in respect to confessions, my rights and what they can and can't arrest me for. I am well protected in that sense.

This is a draft of what I will be presenting to my local counsellor:

Hello, my name is Ansis, I am living in Pointe Claire and have been here for my entire life. Taking a stroll through my neighbourhood, the presence of graffiti is becoming more and more noticable, to the point where it is a large problem for Pointe Claire’s businesses, homeowners, schools and city property. This adolescent phenomenon is tainting our beautiful neighbourhood, and with the coming of the warm summer, the level of vandalism will only escalate.

With graffiti becoming more and more of a problem, I propose the establishment of a public graffiti-legal wall for Pointe Claire’s youth to express themselves in a non-destructive manner. Constructing this kind of wall would create a canvas for our citizens to create art in a safer, cost-effective and public-friendly manner. Adolescents would take their creative minds and spraypaint to this wall rather than businesses, houses and city property.

The creation of such walls has been proven to work to reduce the level of graffiti in certain areas better than enforcing stricter fines and punishment for offenders. Stronger enforcement of anti-vandalism laws is not a fix for this problem either. There are places in this world where one can be jailed for ten years for defacing public property, but in those places graffiti is still prominent.

The location of this wall could be along the sides of our seldom-used public tennis courts such as in [a local park] or incorporating it into the wall or crippled adjacent building along [a main intersection]. I urge you to consider my idea to establish an outlet for expression of our youth in keeping their work legal and non-destructive, turning vandals into artists.
 
That letter is excellently written and hopefully you will get a positive response. You could also bring up the issue to any local news media, which will sometimes propt the gov't into action even if the news is not going to cover the story.
 
Ain't that the truth, especially on issues like this. Excellent point, skip.
 
Another idea is to ask for permission to do it on buildings scheduled for demolition, obviousely you'd need somewhere you could go to see what one's are, and I don't know how often you'd be getting buildings soon to be demolished, obviously any work on thoes wlould be temporary, becasue the art goes with the building, but I would think a lot of people would hone their skils on them and come up with new patterns and idea's.

Also, your letter is well written, but giving examples of where graffiti has been made legal on certain structures and walls and how it's benefitted the community in regards to cutting down illegal graffiti will go many miles to getting a positive response.
 
This was on the local news last night. Only a publicity stunt for a jeans maker, they said. Kind of a stupid way to advertise for a pair of jeans, don't ya' think?

Buying "graffiti space" on buildings sounds like a better idea than fooling your customers with a cheap publicity stunt.
 
Ask any advertising company. Graffiti and urban art are a massive marketing tool in advertisement and graphic design these days. Any painter who wants to have a career based on graffiti always becomes a graphic designer.

Check...

www.123klan.com

Mess around that site for a while, a lot of fun interesting design.
 
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