AI's not even trying!

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Killtron86
the other day i was watching a replay and noticed the AI never give full throttle. even in perfect straights. i thought i would have a decent challenge by using the pennzoil gtr in the world championship. WRONG! even against the oreca viper i still kicked the **** out the AI. BTW my gtr was completely stock, onlything i did was get rid of ACS and TCM. this left me saying one thing WTF!
 
It does seem like the AI cars leave something on the table during the races. I think they make the AI cars slower than you sometimes, so you have a slight advantage over them, even in Simulation Mode. I hope they correct this in GT4, so that the AI is more challenging to defeat.
 
I've noticed that when you're trailing the AI cars will slow their pace to let you catch up, but when you're in the lead they drive like crazy fast to give you unrealistic competition. Many GTP members have commented that they've seen AI cars (in replays) moving faster than the car should be able to go, as if when the AI car is trailing the physics for the car are adjusted to give it an unrealistic advantage.
 
This formed the basis of a challenge I ran called "Worst Car Wins". Drivers took their car to the Beginner/Sunday Cup/Midfield race and had to win with one of the cheapest cars or one of the lowest powered cars, or in the slowest time.

We found it was actually possible - with hybrids - to turn round at the start and blitz backwards round the circuit, until you met the AI coming the other way (and they'd be well before T1 split). You could then mess about, blocking them until you reaching the start/finish line on their first lap - and they wouldn't exceed 60mph, no matter what.

You could then wazz around the track twice and pass them on the line, whereupon they were suddenly going much, much quicker now that they weren't a lap up. We were seeing times in excess of 8 minutes STILL winning the race...
 
Makes sense to me, if you ask me its really pretty clever. Nobody likes a game that they can't win, so handicap the AI and give the player a chance... I think they forgot the pro vitz though... :grumpy:
 
Originally posted by Famine
This formed the basis of a challenge I ran called "Worst Car Wins". Drivers took their car to the Beginner/Sunday Cup/Midfield race and had to win with one of the cheapest cars or one of the lowest powered cars, or in the slowest time.

We found it was actually possible - with hybrids - to turn round at the start and blitz backwards round the circuit, until you met the AI coming the other way (and they'd be well before T1 split). You could then mess about, blocking them until you reaching the start/finish line on their first lap - and they wouldn't exceed 60mph, no matter what.

You could then wazz around the track twice and pass them on the line, whereupon they were suddenly going much, much quicker now that they weren't a lap up. We were seeing times in excess of 8 minutes STILL winning the race...

I suspected as much all along but never went to the trouble to test it out. I did noticed on multiple occations that the first place time for the same AI car was tens of seconds different depending on how well I had done.
 
Wow...I didn't know they actually didn't put full throttle on on the straights. I thought that they just took the turns a little worse when you were losing.
 
they do that a lot on tc they dont deploy full throttle. i just hope GT4 has um.. progressive AI so if i go to begigin in an GT1 the cars would change into R390's and run about as fast as me but give a more margin for error where if it was pro the cars would run as fast as me and not slow down if i crashed. therefor less margin for error
 
bmwx, they didn't.:) All it takes is practice and preferably a good setup. Even at SSR11 II I passed the lead car before the first lap was over, and lapped about 3 seconds faster with T2/T5 than the rest. Add a pit stop for the rest, and you win by a minute.

The AI does cheat is Pro league too. I have quite recent experience of this. There's no way a R390 LM can pull a three second difference in half the distance of the T246 main straight over a 787B. I can understand catching up slowly drafting, but after passing me it just vanished into the distance.
 
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