Alien Vs Predator: Requiem [Slight Spoilers]

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I eagerly saw it the first day it came to cinemas here, but I must say I left with a slight bit of disappointment in that the storyline was very average. The action however was fantastic, and rightfully gorey. All I wish though is that the mandatory climatic battle at the end between the two titans didn't end so abruptly.

Also, can anyone shed some light on what the meaning/significance of the final scene of the movie was? (I was nodding off by the time it came around)
 
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Also, can anyone shed some light on what the meaning/significance of the final scene of the movie was? (I was nodding off by the time it came around)
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The woman's last name is the same name of the company from the Aliens saga.

Now, how having Predator technology results in what we see in those movies is beyond me. What makes it even more perplexing is that it is a Predator gun, yet somehow in the alien saga they are still using old school projectile weapons. So, not only was it a lame attempt to connect this event to everything else but it throws out past storylines.

Basically, it was a pointless scene to try and make the audience go, "Oh my Gawd!!!!"


My idea of an AvP movie would take place in the same time frame as the Alien movies. Failed colonization attempts on a specific planet lead the the company to send an exploratory team to investigate if it is another Aliens situation. Upon arrival they find it is a Predator weekend hunting getaway of sorts (kind of based on the concept of the original AvP). Hell, they can even tie it into the first AvP as this is what they went to after their Earth location was destroyed. Make it a mostly tropical region so that it has the feel of the original Predator and makes it near impossible to see the face grabbers coming.

Since they can't make it decent on Earth because it results in the need to kill off both (I don't see why Predator flying off in the end is bad) they should just quit trying.
 
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I also think the ending was significant to another because the predators know thier gun is on earth and if they are trying to make a connection with the first AVP the predators will want thier gun back. Not sure how it would make an alien appear but maybe it was saying in the 3rd the predators come back for thier fire arm
 
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How would the Predators know humans have the gun? There was no Predator technology around to record the humans recovering the gun after the bombs went off.
 
I'm not sure how the story would tie together thats just how I think it was intended in the movie. But I'm not sure, it may have been a weak attempt at connecting the 2 series together.
 
Saw it whilst I was in the states, shame they made it a 15 and too short...thought they'd learnt. If you just wanna go see aliens and predators ripping the **** out of each other with humans in the way and not be fussed by the story/characters too much...you'll enjoy it. If they make a third, they need to not make it another missed opportunity, if they do...people should just go back to the idea of a final Alien movie and making Predator a trilogy.

Had some good parts...and better than the first...but not as good as it could've been =/ They need to do a good movie somewhere along the line...both AvP movies have been average at best, Alien Ress was friggin awful (should've gone with the novel side of things...Earth Hive/Nightmare Asylum/Female War), as was Predator 2...

Tbh, I would've liked to have seen an attempt at making a movie based on the Aliens novel Beserker and Alien Vs Predator novels Hunter's Planet and then War...something like that would've been good.

The woman's last name is the same name of the company from the Aliens saga.
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Half right, it was half the name. The other half being Weyland (as in Charles Weyland Bishop, head of the Weyland company), one can assume that in the future both companies are merged...the aliens take a priority over the predator technology...it's quite feasible.
 
FoolKiller
How would the Predators know humans have the gun? There was no Predator technology around to record the humans recovering the gun after the bombs went off.
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No, but the Predator who had the gun did see the guy taking it away. If what happened at the start is anything to go by, then anything the Predators see is recorded by cameras in their masks and the recordings can be picked up by other Predators by thier computer thingy on thier home world and maybe other computers.

I have seen this now, it all felt a bit too mindless, as I expected from other peoples reports. I think it showed too much of what was going on from the Predator and Aliens side of things. If you watch Alien, Aliens or Predator, they don't show very much of what's going beyond the people, you might get the odd bit, but not much. The story was cutting to what the Predator and the Predalien was doing all the time. They need to stick to the main characters more, that way you care about them more. Not knowing what the Aliens are doing, or the Predator is doing keeps you in suspense. This film had virtually no suspense.

A few of the deaths didn't make sense beyond just being done for the sake of putting it in there. Like the cop who the Predator kills early on. The Predator is there to get rid of any trace of the Aleins, and not to leave a trace from himself either. So he's pouring this liquid that dissolves things onto alien and human bodies, then this cop spots him, he kills the cop, skins him and hangs him in a tree. Why? The only reason why is because it was done in Predator. This Predator wasn't on a hunt though, he was on a clean up operation, so what logic would lead him to do that.

Too much of it was there simply as a nod to the other films regardless of it making sense or not, and there waere a hell of a lot of nods.
 
Y'know...I've been reading a few more reviews lately, and I've discovered a common complaint...

"The aliens killed kids and a pregnant woman"

My question to this is (and if anyone of that opinion happens to be participating in the thread)...so what? Do they think the aliens would've had care and consideration for such people if James Cameron had mad the movie? or the likes of Steve/Stephani Perry had written a novel? Not at all, the aliens do whatever the must to survive whether it's through killing or procreation. Kids were killed, albeit not on screen, in the movie Aliens after all... Deal with it u-u
 
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Half right, it was half the name. The other half being Weyland (as in Charles Weyland Bishop, head of the Weyland company), one can assume that in the future both companies are merged...the aliens take a priority over the predator technology...it's quite feasible.
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I new it was related to the company and figured that since they went ahead and killed Weyland in the first one that we just don't care anymore.

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No, but the Predator who had the gun did see the guy taking it away. If what happened at the start is anything to go by, then anything the Predators see is recorded by cameras in their masks and the recordings can be picked up by other Predators by thier computer thingy on thier home world and maybe other computers.
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When the Predator makes the gun from his wrist and shoulder weapons he also takes off all his armor, including his mask. Remember, he pulled the whole badass routine. Unless he did them separately, but I thought that he did it all at once. Either way I know he was maskless when he took on the alien and lost the gun.

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Y'know...I've been reading a few more reviews lately, and I've discovered a common complaint...

"The aliens killed kids and a pregnant woman"

My question to this is (and if anyone of that opinion happens to be participating in the thread)...so what? Do they think the aliens would've had care and consideration for such people if James Cameron had mad the movie? or the likes of Steve/Stephani Perry had written a novel? Not at all, the aliens do whatever the must to survive whether it's through killing or procreation. Kids were killed, albeit not on screen, in the movie Aliens after all... Deal with it u-u
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I agree, it was the only thing that made sense. The aliens are purely ruthless. They don't care. To them prey is prey.
 
FoolKiller
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When the Predator makes the gun from his wrist and shoulder weapons he also takes off all his armor, including his mask. Remember, he pulled the whole badass routine. Unless he did them separately, but I thought that he did it all at once. Either way I know he was maskless when he took on the alien and lost the gun.
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No, he still had his mask on. He made the gun before he took his mask off. He only took his mask off right near the end during the final fight with the Predalien on the roof.
 
I knew I probably messed it up. Ah well, however they think they should do it I think it best if they don't try.
 
2 cents time!

This movie was a giant dung heap. Whereas the first AVP looked like a low-budget sci-fi movie, this new one looks like a crappy horror movie, complete with useless characters and the relationships between them, while all the viewers just want to see the real stars of the movie.

And the Predalien? Worse than the Newborn from Alien: Resurrection. And I'm sorry, was I the only one who found my mind lurking in the gutter while I watched the Predalien latch onto women's faces in the hospital and pump "eggs" down their throats?

My God, this movie SUCKED.

I love reading how when a sucky piece of crap AVP movie comes out that is monumentally worse than fans expected (even after the first atrocity), the next day everyone's online talking about what they would like to see in a THIRD movie. Are you insane? Hollywood is beating a dead horse, and if two turd movies in a row is not proof positive that everyone in Hollywood's got their head up their ass, I don't know what it will take to get everyone to just turn their backs on this franchise. I mean, you all had no problem doing the same thing for the Matrix series, and that was almost accomplished in one 24-hour period!

Please, for the love of all things holy, don't get my hopes up with any more R-rated, graphic violence-filled trailers, excite me into spreading free word of mouth for your crap, only to sit in the theatre on opening night and suddenly realize at the 50-minute mark that this movie sucks a bag of ass and it isn't going to get ay better. I end up severely disappointed and looking like a submoron because I was so pumped up. I friggin went to see this on Christmas Day! No, AVP:R was NOT better than the first, for one simple reason: the makers of THIS one had the PREVIOUS one to learn from, and they failed to improve on it. Talentless troglodytes, I say. The lot of them.

Of course, I'll probably be first in line for the next installment, not because I'm a hypocrite, but because I have in the last few years had to sit through the two biggest disappointments in the Aliens and Predator franchises, and the mere knowledge that whatever AVP3 is (if it ever gets made at all), it can't possibly be any worse than the two steaming piles of nutty pig feces that are AVP and AVP:R.
 
The problem is that the franchise has such a great potential, I'd love to see an AVP film that lives upto the potential it has, or even comes close. They need a director that understands that the Aliens films are best when they're based on suspense rather than a shock factor. Films that use the shock factor like this one did are usually rubbish and get worse each time you watch them. I watched Aliens for about the 12th time ever last night and it's still a fantastic film imo. If they make a third they need to take a leaf out of James Camerons book and get the focus of the film right. The focus should be the people and the suspense, not the gore and the creatures and they will fail every time untill they realise that.
 
Don't discount Ridley Scott, especially if you're talking about suspense. While Alien was definitely filled with suspense, Aliens was much less so, being more of an action movie. But because Cameron and the actors were so good (another problem with the newer AVP films, in that they cast morons and unknowns in the lead roles), the movie was an absolute blowout, and in my opinion is one of the only sequels to surpass the first movie. And that's coming from someone who despises James Cameron in all his forms (though not as much as I hate George Lucas, but that's another post for another thread!).

I also thought Alien 3 was quite well done; if any of you have the chance to pick up the Alien Quadrilogy set, it's got the alternate version of Alien 3 that you can watch; it's QUITE interesting to see how Fincher originally envisioned the movie, and how it was altered afterwards.
 
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I love reading how when a sucky piece of crap AVP movie comes out that is monumentally worse than fans expected (even after the first atrocity), the next day everyone's online talking about what they would like to see in a THIRD movie. Are you insane? Hollywood is beating a dead horse, and if two turd movies in a row is not proof positive that everyone in Hollywood's got their head up their ass, I don't know what it will take to get everyone to just turn their backs on this franchise.
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I agree with everything you said above, but to make sure we are on the same page I will quote myself.
FoolKiller
Ah well, however they think they should do it I think it best if they don't try.
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Of course, I'll probably be first in line for the next installment, not because I'm a hypocrite, but because I have in the last few years had to sit through the two biggest disappointments in the Aliens and Predator franchises, and the mere knowledge that whatever AVP3 is (if it ever gets made at all), it can't possibly be any worse than the two steaming piles of nutty pig feces that are AVP and AVP:R.
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Was that a challenge? Because my experience has been that Hollywood will gladly step up to prove they can do worse when you think they no longer can.

Anderton Prime
I also thought Alien 3 was quite well done; if any of you have the chance to pick up the Alien Quadrilogy set, it's got the alternate version of Alien 3 that you can watch; it's QUITE interesting to see how Fincher originally envisioned the movie, and how it was altered afterwards.
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Is the Quadrilogy on Blu-Ray yet?
 
Anderton Prime
Don't discount Ridley Scott, especially if you're talking about suspense. While Alien was definitely filled with suspense, Aliens was much less so, being more of an action movie. But because Cameron and the actors were so good (another problem with the newer AVP films, in that they cast morons and unknowns in the lead roles), the movie was an absolute blowout, and in my opinion is one of the only sequels to surpass the first movie. And that's coming from someone who despises James Cameron in all his forms (though not as much as I hate George Lucas, but that's another post for another thread!).

I also thought Alien 3 was quite well done; if any of you have the chance to pick up the Alien Quadrilogy set, it's got the alternate version of Alien 3 that you can watch; it's QUITE interesting to see how Fincher originally envisioned the movie, and how it was altered afterwards.
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True, Aliens was much more action oriented but it still kept you wondering when you'd get your first sighting of the Alien or when the motion sensors would start that trademark blip, blip, blip. Other than Ripleys dream and the first facehugger in the extended version I don't think you see any Aliens for over half an hour. You never get to see what the aliens are doing beyond what the humans can see or thier surroundings either. In the AVP movies the film is cutting to them every other scene, stick to the human cast, we'll get to know them better, care about them more when they die and the film will have you wondering where the aliens are a hell of a lot more.
 
Well, already AvPR is looking set to hit the stores in a multitude of various DVD formats. The theatrical version will be released on DVD/Blu-Ray with single and 2 disc options. They're also bringing out an Unrated version of the movie, extended by some 7 minutes over the theatrical version. This will be available in DVD, Blu-Ray, Digital Copy Special Edition DVD and DCSE Blu-Ray.


And the motion sensor blips and beeps are like...the best sound effects for an eerie atmosphere ever.
 

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