All Prize Cars in GT1 PAL Version

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo 1' started by Mouc, Oct 7, 2019.

  1. Mouc

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    Hi,

    Hope this is not already & heavily documented here, but it's a long time (20 years? and I've found it nowhere so far) I wanted to get all the prize cars available in the "French" (later I learned it was the PAL) Version of GT1. Now it's done (it also took a long time :) ).
    I read multiple times in GT1 threads on this very website, numbers of commentaries about the differences between the Japanese, US and PAL version of the game, so I hope it could be helpful for this kind of nerds (like me!) to have the European Specs of all PAL prize cars somewhere in this forum.
    Here's the album, if you dare:

    https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/medi...ize-cars-from-championships-pal-version.2121/

    Sorry about the poor quality. Pictures are from a video, which is captured via a cheap acquisition device (Nerd yes, but not geek).
    About the Honda CR-X Del Sol LM Edition. I simply think the Red color isn't available in the PAL version. I won (honestly) at least 50 times the UK v Japan Championship, the CR-X LM never came out in red. Hope I'm wrong, hope someone has won it one single time in Red, and so I'll try to get it also. For the moment, I can't run this series no more :)

    A great video about all prize cars from the Japanese version:

    And a link to the above save file with the 61 PAL prize cars I could get with my D-pads & PS2 Fat (Not including the Licenses Tests prize cars).
    Bye
     

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  2. JakeMR2

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    In one of my play though I won the CRX LM Del Sol in red. I think it would be quite rare. And, I remember in one thread that the prize you get is not randomized, it's set after you win the championship.
     
  3. Liquid

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    It is randomised up until at least the championship prize money screen.

    Through save states at the screen after the race prize money, where you have the options Replay | Save Replay | Continue you can spam for whichever of the two prize cars you desire.
     
  4. Mouc

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    Hi,

    Thanks JakeMR2, you gave me some hope, so I did it again (12 times :mad: ), and finally got the RED CR-X :)

    Now I wonder if it's really randomized. Got the RED CR-X when I decided to look for a insignificant car, and win the series with it: a 95' SZ-R Supra (N.A. version) from the used car dealer... Honestly, it's a car that nobody thinks about, is it? (By the way a great ride: 377hp fully tuned, light & excellent handling)
     

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  5. submaniac93

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    What car you drive has no real effect on what you get at the end. Cars and colors are fully randomized. The first traces of influence on what you get is in GT3 with a color value, where you can win a car, but only in one color. The older games do not as far as we know have anything other than RNG determining what you get at the end.
    From my experience, the hardest cars i've struggled to get in certain colors in GT1 were the green FTO LM and the red CRX DS LM, as well as the white DB7
     
  6. Mouc

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    I think you're right, but when it seems to be the solution after a so long wait... Gets me kind of paranoïd :)
    About the struggle for FTO in green & CR-X in red:
    - exactly the same for me, in the PAL version (only one I got, by the way)
    - did you face the same prob' in any version? (US, JP, PAL)
    If so, it could just be a probabilities matter within the random thing for prize cars. And from my side, no real problem getting the white DB7, but it's been a bit hard to get all the Silvias Qs 1800, the Yellow Copperhead, and the Purple RX-7.

    I also did some nerdy stats (:mad:) with powers & weights between PAL & JP versions of the prize cars.
    There's not many differences in the "Stock" form for cars, but for Race Modded form, yes.
    Japanese weights for Viper GTS-R, Cerbera LM, and High Output ConceptCar are 33% lighter.
    Around 25% lighter for Civic Type R, Eunos Roadster, CR-X Si R, Trueno AE86, and even more for the famous Demio A-Spec (RM form 35% lighter in JP version than in PAL).
    Powers are the same (with PS/HP factor around 1.03) at least for untuned/stock figures.
    Feel much better now :p
     

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  7. submaniac93

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    About a year ago I started this list (and didn't complete the second page). You'll be able to check the AI opponents and some of their setup :p
    I too do nerdy stuff from time to time

    Red is USA, Green is JP

     
  8. Mouc

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    :eek: Wow, that's nerdy stuff! Love it! :D:bowdown:
    From where the bloody heck did you extract this?

    Anyway it confirms my first guess about AI's setups: they use the "Super Close" gearbox, at least in every challenging competition, starting from "Country VS Country" to iA license Series (I just checked on a few cars for which I had all the tune up parts).
    Could explain why AIs are not so bad in Tuned Cup, or All Night 2. And why the [R]Viper GTS or RT/10 is so disappointing in "US vs xy": the 7 speeds tranny is way too long for it. Contrary for Corvette 96 or Griffith, for which "Super Close" ratios are (a bit long but) correct.
    Thanks for sharing :)
     
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  9. submaniac93

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    All from the RAM while i loaded the game, using Cheat Engine :p
    You're welcome ^^
    And indeed, they almost always use the super close ratios, which is why Megaspeed opponents are so slow haha
     
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  10. cirno2duo

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    Your writing style is so adorable submaniac93, I can't help but want to hug you tight whenever I see a post of yours... >_<

    Regardless, that's pretty impressive, I love finding out all these little tidbits about GT1 and you seem to find most of the interesting stuff *hugs*