Almost 300 HP increase right after buying the 905B? [Explained]

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I had just bought the car. The dealer says 512 HP and 235.1 ft-lb of torque. Right after, I checked the settings, and it's now 798 HP and 395 ft-lb. What makes this major increase happen? Does it happen with other LMP/Group C cars? :odd:
 
............Really? I never bought this car as it's a standard, but if you get a free HP boost without buying anything, then hell I'm gonna splurge me some credits...💡

......................I haven't noticed this but didn't Jaguar group C car had this, uh, "problem"? I could be wrong though. I'll check once I boot up my PS3 sometime later.
 
The Chosen One
I had just bought the car. The dealer says 512 HP and 235.1 ft-lb of torque. Right after, I checked the settings, and it's now 798 HP and 395 ft-lb. What makes this major increase happen? Does it happen with other LMP/Group C cars? :odd:
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Nearly every single LMP and Group C has incorrect HP specifications. The dealerships specs are generally accurate but when you buy them they can have up to 35% more power than they should.
 
The Chosen One
I had just bought the car. The dealer says 512 HP and 235.1 ft-lb of torque. Right after, I checked the settings, and it's now 798 HP and 395 ft-lb. What makes this major increase happen? Does it happen with other LMP/Group C cars? :odd:
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This is what makes GTPEDIA so time-consuming to write - we use actual garage horsepower figures.

I'm guessing that the showroom figures - in the case of race cars like this - are actual race specifications, with restrictors and whatnot, but the garage ones are unrestricted versions of the engine. Either way it's annoying.
 
Famine
This is what makes GTPEDIA so time-consuming to write - we use actual garage horsepower figures.

I'm guessing that the showroom figures - in the case of race cars like this - are actual race specifications, with restrictors and whatnot, but the garage ones are unrestricted versions of the engine. Either way it's annoying.
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The R33/34 Skylines both say 276bhp in the dealership but have around 300 in the garage, I always thought this was a reference/nod to the gentlemens agreement amongst the major Japanese manufacturers where they agreed that they wouldn't make anything more powerful.
 
DolHaus
The R33/34 Skylines both say 276bhp in the dealership but have around 300 in the garage, I always thought this was a reference/nod to the gentlemens agreement amongst the major Japanese manufacturers where they agreed that they wouldn't make anything more powerful.
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Yes, all the Gentleman's Agreement cars say 276hp (or 280PS), but most have more - the R34s are up in the 3-and-teens.

Again, that's the reason but it's annoying. The reason the information is there is to inform and if we're depending on the information and getting something different, it's bad information - even if there's a real life reason for it.
 
Famine
Yes, all the Gentleman's Agreement cars say 276hp (or 280PS), but most have more - the R34s are up in the 3-and-teens.

Again, that's the reason but it's annoying. The reason the information is there is to inform and if we're depending on the information and getting something different, it's bad information - even if there's a real life reason for it.
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Yeah fair enough, it would be less annoying if there were only a few instances but the whole system is riddled with these inconsistencies
 
The closest anyone has been able to guess is that the numbers are just some way to try to artificially balance the several eras of LMP cars. It can't be trying to guess the "true" engine power without restrictors, because the torque curves (and especially the torque figures themselves) are all wrong for that to be the case for all of the normally aspirated models like the 905. Seems to be just a straight power multiplier applied with no regard for realism.
 
Tornado
Seems to be just a straight power multiplier applied with no regard for realism.
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That's exactly the same as all power mods except for Turbos and Superchargers.

The 905 is a very good example. The specific torque is ridiculous in that type of engine, and the peak power is higher than the typical F1 unit of that era.
 
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