ALMS: 2007 Preview

You're right, there are C6-R's and DBR9's in both the FIA GT and LMS, and you're also right; as these cars are not the factory teams, they are not privy to the one-off, race-specific, just fresh out of the autoclave and 3-axis CAD/CAM parts that the factory teams spend millions developing.
 
And that is exactly why I would like to see more factory backed teams!

Wait a minute! Hasn´t this all happened before? I´m thinkin the late 90´s here, with the overly fast factorybacked GT1 cars. ACO made some rulechange, and the - back then - much cheaper and slower GT2 class came storming up to become essentially GT1. And the cars that came out on the top? Vipers!
Imagine that happening again...GT1 would be flooded with Porsches!
 
Okay. Fine. You want factory teams. You tell me what the ACO, IMSA, and the FIA can do to encourage factories to participate.

I can tell you exactly why they don't participate: MONEY Sportscar racing is ungodly expensive. Always has been. With GT1 in particular, you have a narrow spectrum of cars to compete (save for the aberration of the Corvette, it's a class for $250,000+ supercars and GT's), and for those companies a losing record for their cars is a seriously risky proposition.

When you're selling the upper nth percentile of performance, you're not only selling the car's capabilities. The image, the persona, the bragging rights, these are the reasons to buy this car. Think about it. Koenigsegg's are prized because they're rare, beautiful, and obscenely fast.....

....until something more rare, more beautiful, and even faster.

When you have such an ego-conscious set of manufacturers, they don't want to do anything that would compromise their market position. Let's face it, it's not good business when your $250,000+ supercar gets beat on track by a $60,000 Corvette.

Those manufacturers who are in the Corvette's class (on the street) are participating in GT2 OR have sent their money to other motorsports ventures (Mercedes-Benz and BMW are in Formula One, for instance).

Winning is the only thing that justifies unloading a car off the trailer. That's Rule #1 of Motorsport. If you aren't there to rip the other bastard's throat out, go home.

General Motors, Pratt & Miller, and the men of Team Corvette have done just that and won. Ultimately, those who've tried against Corvette have not won, and instead of throwing money away (which is exactly what losing is), they keep the cars on the trailer.
 
If Audi and Corvette go over to the LMS as a result of having no competition in the ALMS, then you'll see the EXACT same result in that series. The further the gap in performance between the cars, the sooner the uncompetitive cars start going home.
Winning is the only thing that justifies unloading a car off the trailer. That's Rule #1 of Motorsport. If you aren't there to rip the other bastard's throat out, go home.
I agree with both of these points completely. No one wants to lose, especially when their loss is determined with two or three races left to go. So, I think that if someone doesn't step up to compete against Corvette and Audi then they will go to where they have competition in Europe.

The question is, how can that be fixed? I personally do not like rule after rule designed to slow a succesful team down. In my opinion it can hurt the series in the long run. However, that attitude is harmful to take with a series that is in relative infancy. I think losing Audi or Corvette would harm the fan base.

If I could talk to the other teams my response to them would be to step up to the challenge. We can't keep changing rules and being unfair to a high quality team just because they want to have closer races and sell more cars to the public. If they are as good as they claim then they should prove it on the track. But then I would also tell the officiating bodies to find a way to equal out the series if they want to be succesful in the long run.

I hate to say this, but the competitiveness is what makes NASCAR so popular. Many times a race is determined by who comes off the last turn more succesfully. There is less than a car length between 1st and 2nd and the tension mounts. Without that tension ALMS will have minimal television coverage because the average person won't flip over to watch.

In ALMS a race is won by laps. It is a beautiful thing for an enthusiast. God knows I don't need that bump and push action because I appreciate the engineering and the driving skill exhibited on the track. I don't want to give anything up or sacrifice integrity to grow the series, but something needs to be done or I will be watching the greatest engineering and skill team in one or two hour summaries on DVD every season instead of personally watching them in Atlanta.

Unfortunately I don't have an answer for this. If ALMS suffers then I will be watching Champ Car races in order to see road racing on a regular basis or I will have to fork over the extra money for SPEED, because the LeMans summaries on DVD are not acceptable.
 
Okay. Fine. You want factory teams. You tell me what the ACO, IMSA, and the FIA can do to encourage factories to participate.
I said earlier:
Personally, I would like to see a return of manufacturer run teams, instead of just backed priveteers. Of course private teams should still be able to participate. Thing is, the biggest teams (Champion, Penske, Corvette racing) are heavily backed by the manufacturers, so the difference would not be huge, but more manufacturers would probably try their skills on the track in such a series. Many of the carmakers either don´t want to financially commit to F1, or simply never get a chance there, so I think they would spend a lot of money for a more "true car" oriented series.
I can tell you exactly why they don't participate: MONEY Sportscar racing is ungodly expensive. Always has been. With GT1 in particular, you have a narrow spectrum of cars to compete (save for the aberration of the Corvette, it's a class for $250,000+ supercars and GT's), and for those companies a losing record for their cars is a seriously risky proposition.
Fine, but any motorsport is expensive. Most carmanufacturers do want to have a perticipation in motorsports in one way or another, so why not make it allowed for factory teams? In LMS, that is not allowed. Heavy backing from factories, fine, but not a factory team per se. My notion is, that if the manufacturers would be allowed to enter their own teams, they would.
When you're selling the upper nth percentile of performance, you're not only selling the car's capabilities. The image, the persona, the bragging rights, these are the reasons to buy this car. Think about it. Koenigsegg's are prized because they're rare, beautiful, and obscenely fast.....

....until something more rare, more beautiful, and even faster.

When you have such an ego-conscious set of manufacturers, they don't want to do anything that would compromise their market position. Let's face it, it's not good business when your $250,000+ supercar gets beat on track by a $60,000 Corvette.
Exactly. That is the very exact same reason that the manufaturers want to see their cars on the racetrack too. And presumably win over the Vettes :) Thing is, this problem doesn´t seem to exist on the same level here in Europe. Only priveteers you know. Of course, the big teams win here too, but the gap down is not huge, and sometimes a small team get a win too. Perhaps ALMS need to go longer races, like over here. 1000km per race, and only 5 or 6 races per season.
Also, wins with several laps margin, is a rarity in LMS somehow, wich indicates that they have a good formula going.

FYI, LMS had 14M TV viewers per race only here in Europe, wich is huge, considering what is.
Winning is the only thing that justifies unloading a car off the trailer. That's Rule #1 of Motorsport. If you aren't there to rip the other bastard's throat out, go home.
Maybe, but there is a marketing value in it too, otherwise noone (at least not any manufacturers) would be racing. And there is also the very basic fact that some people just love racing.
General Motors, Pratt & Miller, and the men of Team Corvette have done just that and won. Ultimately, those who've tried against Corvette have not won, and instead of throwing money away (which is exactly what losing is), they keep the cars on the trailer.
Correct. And IIRC Prodrive accused ALMS of being biased towards Corvette, wich I must say sounds like utter BS. They weren´t fast enough, and that is it.
But on the other hand, if that is how they felt, I can understand why they packed up and left.
Either way, Prodrive would most likely not have been in ALMS this season, as they are to enter F1, and needs to prepare for that.
 
LMS, that is not allowed. Heavy backing from factories, fine, but not a factory team per se.

So, the Peugeot team, who I believe will be running the full schedule in the LMS aren't a factory team? Hahaha, how will they pull that off?

Also, Brazil being on the calendar for the LMS is a small step towards a global series. That could translate to a global series being "doable". I think when we see the grid size for the round we can start talking about a global series possibility. Am I saying that officials are talking about a series? No. Am I saying that officials aren't talking about a series? No. I have no idea, but with the LMS going global I believe that, assuming the event is successful, is a step that will catch the attention of the officials in America and in Europe.

It is interesting to me that we say Audi and Corvette are freight trains that can't be stopped. Certainly with Audi we've seen they can be stopped. Monterrey Sports Car Championships. The R8 could be stopped, (2005 - and not to mention when Panoz and the gang were around) and even though the R10 won this year both Creation and Zytek looked very competitive. Come 2008 or whenever the new regulations regarding fuel are put in place (just in time to see the French give themselves a shot at the 24 hours) the grid will be very even.

As far as GT1 goes, GM and Ford, or whoever will be funding Aston, need to take a step back. Understandably, Corvette coming in with a car "similar to" a $60, 000 road car beating a car "similar to" a $250, 000 road car, you get a step up or step out situation. Aston Martin, or whoever is being embarrassed by Corvette, need to go at it 100% or just get out. Corvette loses competition and GM brass will want to step out because they can't possibly play ads saying they are dominating a two car class where their only competition is themselves for too long. I think it is the same recycled thing all over again. I think that Layla's Keeper was spot on.

Which brings me to my next point. Grand-Am (whatever you think about the cars, the drivers, the lack of Le Mans etc.) seem to have their ducks in a row. With Le Mans, ACO, IMSA, ALMS, LMS whoever you are pointing the finger at (probably ACO) they are just off the mark. With P2 and GT2 they have their ducks in a row. One could say they tripped into the GT2 class but P2 (675) was mocked for being ridiculous and ACO stayed strong and the class exploded. Admittedly it was seen in America, SRP II from the old Grand-Am or USRRA or whatever it was called, in FIA in the old Sports Car Championship - not sure when that series or class was made - and the concept of the "Light" class is very old, probably why the ACO stuck with it.

Cheers,
 
So, the Peugeot team, who I believe will be running the full schedule in the LMS aren't a factory team? Hahaha, how will they pull that off?
The same way Audi did it, of course! How did they pull off a full ALMS season without being a factory team?? Outsourcing is the game here. Champion took care of Audi, but I don´t know who will run the Pugs yet.
It is interesting to me that we say Audi and Corvette are freight trains that can't be stopped. Certainly with Audi we've seen they can be stopped. Monterrey Sports Car Championships. The R8 could be stopped, (2005 - and not to mention when Panoz and the gang were around) and even though the R10 won this year both Creation and Zytek looked very competitive. Come 2008 or whenever the new regulations regarding fuel are put in place (just in time to see the French give themselves a shot at the 24 hours) the grid will be very even.
That is what I´m hoping for. If Audi get beaten this season, it will be good for the sport.
As far as GT1 goes, GM and Ford, or whoever will be funding Aston, need to take a step back. Understandably, Corvette coming in with a car "similar to" a $60, 000 road car beating a car "similar to" a $250, 000 road car, you get a step up or step out situation. Aston Martin, or whoever is being embarrassed by Corvette, need to go at it 100% or just get out. Corvette loses competition and GM brass will want to step out because they can't possibly play ads saying they are dominating a two car class where their only competition is themselves for too long. I think it is the same recycled thing all over again. I think that Layla's Keeper was spot on.
Aston is out allready, or to be precise, the team that ran the Astons, Prodrive. It´s not yet 100% that they are not coming back, but I have a strong notion that they won´t.
Which brings me to my next point. Grand-Am (whatever you think about the cars, the drivers, the lack of Le Mans etc.) seem to have their ducks in a row. With Le Mans, ACO, IMSA, ALMS, LMS whoever you are pointing the finger at (probably ACO) they are just off the mark. With P2 and GT2 they have their ducks in a row. One could say they tripped into the GT2 class but P2 (675) was mocked for being ridiculous and ACO stayed strong and the class exploded. Admittedly it was seen in America, SRP II from the old Grand-Am or USRRA or whatever it was called, in FIA in the old Sports Car Championship - not sure when that series or class was made - and the concept of the "Light" class is very old, probably why the ACO stuck with it.

Cheers,
Correctamundo! I have no quarrel with the smaller classes at all! I´m just upset that the larger classes have somewhat outplayed themselves, and I´d like the governing bodies to do something about it.
I can´t say anything about Grand-Am though. I have never followed it. Simply because I don´t get any coverage at all on it over here.
 
Look, does anyone have seen (sp?) that 908 pic?

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CORVETTE CONFIRMS GT1 CHAMPIONSHIP DEFENSE


Corvette Racing will defend its 2006 GT1 driver, team and manufacturer championships in 2007.
Corvette Racing officials have announced the perennial championship winning team will return to the American Le Mans Series in 2007 to defend its GT1 drivers, team and manufacturers crown in North America's leading sports car series. In addition, plans are underway for another assault on this year's 24 Hours of Le Mans.

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Look, does anyone have seen (sp?) that 908 pic?

Of course. The reason why it's not being discussed here is because the Peugeot 908 LMP1 is not racing in the 2007 season of American Le Mans Series. ;)

CORVETTE CONFIRMS GT1 CHAMPIONSHIP DEFENSE


Corvette Racing will defend its 2006 GT1 driver, team and manufacturer championships in 2007.
Corvette Racing officials have announced the perennial championship winning team will return to the American Le Mans Series in 2007 to defend its GT1 drivers, team and manufacturers crown in North America's leading sports car series. In addition, plans are underway for another assault on this year's 24 Hours of Le Mans.

Full story

This is great news, although if another competitive team doesn't step up, I don't know how exciting this season will be for the GT1 class.
 
I was kind of hoping they would go to Europe. Maybe then ACEMCO Motorsports would come back, Konrad Motorsports would do a full year, the American Racing Vipers would show up, and lord knows there are various C5-R's for sale in America so we could see a meatier field. However, maybe with Corvette confirmed back we'll get some magical announcement from Aston that they will come back - doubt that will happen almost as much as I doubt my meatier GT1 field dream would come true.

*Sigh*

Cheers,
 
I think the ´Vettes will have GT1 competition in all races though, but just about never from the same team :indiff:
BMS Scuderia is rumored to have a go at a few races, and that Ford GTR...well, they aim to be out there...
I´m sure some other teams will have a go at certain key races aswell.
 
Well RACECAR, that's because the B06/10 is really just an outgrowth of Lola's LMP2 chassis, the B05/40.

Several teams are already campaigning the B05/40, most notably reigning LMP2 Le Mans winner RML, Binnie Motorsports, and Intersport Racing.

Also, B-K Motorsports and Mazda will be using a specialized version of the B05/40 for the 2007 season. It remains to be seen if the car will have any "brand specific" aerodynamic work compared to the regular B05/40. Near as all current reports show, the Fernandez Acura/Lola is still pretty much 100% Lola in its chassis.
 
Well RACECAR, that's because the B06/10 is really just an outgrowth of Lola's LMP2 chassis, the B05/40.

I did notice that(I even pointed out this same fact in a thread somewhere). its just that front intakes don't look like the ones on say, the Intersport Lola B05/40 despite the fact its an LMP2 Lola. another thing I noticed is this B05/10 seems to have a subtle aero change from the B06/10, which looks present on the Lowes car. speaking of the B06/10, there was actually a third one. at the Le Mans race, I actually saw a Yellow Xbox 360 sponsored B06/10.
 
I feel that the big problem is that there is a lack of sponsorship in sportscar racing. Shell is Audi's biggest non-VAG backer. Champion Racing had ADT('02-05), Infineon('04) and S line/quattro Gmbh('05) as sponsors. Infineon also sponsored the Joest Audi factory teams.

Same issue is plaguing NASCAR. If you don't have close connections with a major factoy in sportscar racing, you need good sponsorship. So, just like Chris Economacki said about NASCAR, sportscar racing is now a charity case.
 
The problem with sportscar racing today is lack of sponsorship. Shell is Audi's biggest non-VAG backer. Champion Racing when they ran the R8 had ADT('02-05), Infineon('04) and S line/quattro Gmbh('05) as sponsors. Joest was also sponsored by Infineon when he ran the factory R8s.

If you don't have major factoy connections, you're gonna need good sponsors. Sportscar racing has become what motorsports writer Chris Economaki said of NASCAR: it's basically a charity case now(sorry, repost-I'm new and didn't know to turn the mark forums thing off)
 
It seems that Audi won't be running at the Sebring test(to my dispair). I really wanted to see if Audi made any major changes to the '07 R10s. I guess that I'll(and anyone else who wants to know) have to wait until Audi formally launches the '07 program(they've already made announcements), or some testing pics surface.
 
I believe there is one additional Porsche - either that or Flying Lizard are down to one car, the second to be run under the "Bell Motorsports" label, also known as Team Transports. I believe the first to be true.

Cheers,
 
As I understand it, Bell Motorsports are their own team. Flying Lizard are expected to run two 997's. Apparently to the Winter Tests they brought a 996 as well - not sure if there is a seperate driver line-up or a setup/test, or parts mule for the 997. Though, I'm not sure how many parts will be interchangable. The impression I got was, the cars are very different.

m.piedgros

Sources report seeing an Acemco truck in Sebring apparently with an S7 in tow. Not sure how accurate the report is, or what this means for the GT1 class. I do remind you that Acemco competed only at Le Mans last year and do have experience with Ferrari's. Also of note, Terry Borcheller will be running with the Bell Motorsports team, so that is at least one former Acemco driver off the market. I believe Johnny Mowlem also has a ride making that two drivers off the market. Christian Fittipaldi will most likely be running with Cheever Motorsports in a Porsche Fabcar DP but if Acemco goes full season in ALMS it shouldn't be too much of a challenge to do double-duty, to no ones surprise it has been done before. A new Lola B07/10 is expected to run the LMS season, Le Mans, and the last two American Le Mans series events of the season with the famous Czech team Charouz Racing Systems.

To conclude, GT1 could be thicker than once thought, and LM P1 will get at least one extra ride for the final two rounds of competition. Still no new information from BMS on the Astons...
 
Acemco are in town. They are driving their S7's to a super car show somewhere in Palm Beach. They are most definitely not running a team, still their cars are for sale, however no one appears to want them. With the way the S7's will be restricted, there is very little chance of having a competitive car without IMSA stepping in and making the car ineligible for Le Mans. Those being the main reason Acemco are out - along with the ridiculous cost to run a car that was only "almost" consistently competitive.

m.piedgros
 
Piedgros beat me to the Acemco news...

Tafel racing up top of GT2 in the first session of the final days official winter testing. Porsche remain on top in LM P2, this time with the #7. The Acura cars are much closer in terms of lap times as the learning curve appears to be passing rather quickly. Of note, the perennial underdogs Intersport are only 1.5 seconds off of this morning's top pace (their time being 1:50.032 - compared to this mornings best time of 1:47.166).

With all the setup testing going on, we don't know who is really showing what they got.

Cheers,
 
Say, I found this very interesting. Take a Look at the Intersport Racing B05/40:
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Now Look at the Lowes Fernandez Racing B05/40:
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notice the Valence Panals are curved and are slightly higher on the Lowes car then the intersport car. also, the intakes are also the B06/10 intakes rather then the standard B05/40 intakes.

it might just be me noticing this, but I found it interesting and I start to think that perhaps thats one of dyson's Lolas.

also, thought you guys might be interested in seeing this picture. I didn't see or hear about Miracle Motorsports anymore after Le Mans so this happened to catch my eye.
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I believe the difference between the two Lola's is mainly due to their age. The Lowes-Fernandez Racing car was built in 2006 whereas the Intersport car was one of the very original B05/40's and it has been upgraded 1) to a budget and 2) to team preferences based on performance, feel, etc.

The 26 car, as I understand it is the Andretti-Green car.

Cheers,

EDIT: You'll see the 26 car in the background of the Intersport shot you posted. And if you have a real keen eye you'll say Dario Franchitti manning the wheel.

EDIT 2: I'm pretty confident that the Lowes-Fernandez car is not an ex-Dyson car. I think Dyson used a B06/10 whereas Lowes-Fernandez are using a B07/40. I'm sure there are some fairly major similarities between the two, and heck between the three with that old B05/40 in there.
 
So, Dario Franchitti (Mr. Ashley Judd) is driving for Andretti-Green and Danica Patrick?
http://www.americanlemans.com/News/Article.aspx?ID=2796

Is this just for Sebring or is this for the season?

If it is season that would bring a lot of needed attention to the series, but just one race will barely get a mention. They barely mentioned it when Dale Earnhardt did it and almost never when Dale Jr. does it.
 
With Danica Patrick. The team is Andretti-Green so, naturally they're using drivers at their disposal. I don't know off the top of my head if she'll be running the entire year, I think Marino Franchitti and Bryan Herta, or Marino Franchitti and brother Dario will be driving (or some combination of the three.) I think with Danica-mania sort of dying out, there would be no point in putting Danica in the car when Bryan, Dario, and Marino have all proven to be much faster, better technically and all with much more experience.

m.piedgros
 
The 26 car, as I understand it is the Andretti-Green car.
I could tell by the sponsorship. its just that I was curious as to what happened to Miracle Motorsports and I wondered if perhaps if this was their car, though it would be awesome to see that race with an acura powerplant.


EDIT: You'll see the 26 car in the background of the Intersport shot you posted. And if you have a real keen eye you'll say Dario Franchitti manning the wheel.
I knew it was one of the Franchittis, just forgot which one.

EDIT 2: I'm pretty confident that the Lowes-Fernandez car is not an ex-Dyson car. I think Dyson used a B06/10 whereas Lowes-Fernandez are using a B07/40. I'm sure there are some fairly major similarities between the two, and heck between the three with that old B05/40 in there.
yeah, dyson did race two B06/10s during the 06 season. thats what got me curious because the Fernandez Lola shares some features as that car, like the Valence Panels and the intakes.
 
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