I got my new setup less than a month ago, never ever I even looked at a possible Intel option. Mind was set at first of a 3500+ Venice, then looked in the dual core direction since I'm an heavy heavy multi-tasking user and then settled on the entry line of the X2 with the 3800+ Manchester. lol so in the end I went with the 4400+ Toledo with 1MB X2 L2 Cache. I said to myself, just fawk it put the money once and you'll be done for the next 2-3 years. Best buy I ever did in my entire life, I was expecting alot given the price I payed but it just simply surpassed all my wishes. Idle at 28-29C and full load at 35C with a Zalman CNPS9500 with the rpm on the fan at 1700rpm (goes to like 2600rpm)!!! LMAO you can't even tell the damm hsf is acually spinning.
I have friends with Intel setups and it just doesn't even come close when you compare the processor in all the overall departments. When you look at gaming, encoding, applications, multi-tasking, temperatures all of that in a global evaluation you just clearly see that AMD is ahead of Intel. If you don't realize this well stick to your Intel cpus and enjoy life...maybe one day you'll see the light.