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That looked like a stroke or a TIA. He also 100% šŸ’© his Depends.
 
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Trump's indictment over attempting to overturn the election results should be mortally embarrassing to all republicans that voted for him. And it should end his political career in disgrace. That doesn't seem to be happening.

Once again, as with all of Trump's indictments and articles of impeachment, the question is not whether he did it. Everyone already knows he did. The actual facts of the case are essentially out of dispute. He broke the law and you will find almost no one, including people prepared to vote for Trump for president again, who will take up the mantle that he did not do what he's accused of. If you're reading this right now and think he's innocent of attempting to flip georgia by pressuring georgia officials, do let us know by posting.

The question is not whether he's guilty. We all know he is. The question once again is whether he should get away with it, and over and over many people seem to think that he should.
 
And it should end his political career in disgrace. That doesn't seem to be happening.
What's weird is that it's not seemingly not happening, but it also seems to be helping him in some respects when it comes to things like finances. Trump is making a stupid amount of money off this.

And that's not even the worst of it. Trump has a very real shot at winning the next election.
 
Trump has a very real shot at winning the next election.

I mean what's "real".

One of the main ways he could win is if left wingers are convinced he'll lose and stay home. So there has to be some panic generated among left-wingers to get out and vote. And I think that panic is already starting. But I seriously doubt that Trump's circumstances now have made him any more popular than he was in 2020 or 2016. In both of those cases, he didn't manage to do well among the voting public.

More of a concern in my mind is whether a state is willing to overturn its own results. This has been made legally much easier in some key states since the last go around.
 
I mean what's "real".

One of the main ways he could win is if left wingers are convinced he'll lose and stay home. So there has to be some panic generated among left-wingers to get out and vote. And I think that panic is already starting. But I seriously doubt that Trump's circumstances now have made him any more popular than he was in 2020 or 2016. In both of those cases, he didn't manage to do well among the voting public.

More of a concern in my mind is whether a state is willing to overturn its own results. This has been made legally much easier in some key states since the last go around.
It is also state dependent. A voter in NJ not voting for Trump or Biden likely won't shift the final result while one in Georgia might easily do so.
 
Trump's indictment over attempting to overturn the election results should be mortally embarrassing to all republicans that voted for him. And it should end his political career in disgrace. That doesn't seem to be happening.
 
I mean what's "real".

One of the main ways he could win is if left wingers are convinced he'll lose and stay home. So there has to be some panic generated among left-wingers to get out and vote. And I think that panic is already starting. But I seriously doubt that Trump's circumstances now have made him any more popular than he was in 2020 or 2016. In both of those cases, he didn't manage to do well among the voting public.

More of a concern in my mind is whether a state is willing to overturn its own results. This has been made legally much easier in some key states since the last go around.
There are enough people that look at their life now compared to when Trump was in office and think it was better under Trump. I would wager many Americans don't understand the nuances of government and just put all their blame on the president. They're going to vote for Trump because they want that life back, even if it's not even remotely possible to get there. All you need to do is look at Biden's approval rating to see this. While the president doesn't control the economy, they do get the blame for it when it's not going well.

Biden isn't free from scandal and his son is very much a liability. So is Kamala Harris who's done...honestly, I don't know what she's done, I feel like the Democrats are actively trying to keep her out of the spotlight. While those two people are low for most voters, some will take that into consideration. Although, Trump's kids are a liability too and I'm not sure who he'd take as a running mate, someone probably equally unqualified as Trump himself.

Republicans will likely turn out in force, even with a criminal Trump as the candidate, because for them, he's better than a Democrat. Mail-in and drop-off voting has been kneecapped in many places too, which will hurt Democrats more than Republicans. That will put a dent in Biden's chances.

Finally, I would think there will be a large number of apathetic voters in 2024. If you hated the choices in 2020, you're really going to hate them in 2024 since both Biden and Trump have had 4 additional years to sour people's opinions. If you think nothing ever changes and see that the two choices are exactly the same as last time, you might not even bother to vote. You could vote third party, but it's been drilled into so many people for so long that third parties are useless, I doubt that will happen.

I dread the thought that it could be Biden v. Trump again. To me, that's a lose/lose situation and won't help the country when we're right on the edge of needing strong leadership due to the impending climate disasters.

I would hope that there's a dark horse out there that will suddenly rocket into the spotlight, but we're running out of time rather quickly for that to happen. Instead, we just keep getting crazier and crazier Republicans and RFK Jr. who's equally as nuts.
 
So is Kamala Harris who's done...honestly, I don't know what she's done, I feel like the Democrats are actively trying to keep her out of the spotlight.
This said, I'm kinda glad she told DeSantis to kick rocks. I'm not sure she could've debated him without looking worse.
 
She already has a strong case that nobody sane or compassionate would argue that slavery had net benefits for the enslaved. Not sure that a DeSantis-hosted debate would've been held in front of a sane, compassionate audience though.
 
Why would anyone want to debate DeSantis? All you're going to get is, "Well, woke, woke, woke... woke, woke, woke, left is woke, woke is destroying this country, woke, woke, woke".
 
Why would anyone want to debate DeSantis? All you're going to get is, "Well, woke, woke, woke... woke, woke, woke, left is woke, woke is destroying this country, woke, woke, woke".
Quickest way to fall asleep.
 
Debating DeSantis would be relatively easy for the candidates. His whole schtick is that he's anti-woke, which works great for the people in Florida, but hit him with a foreign policy question that's not about the Mexican border and he'll crumble. And even when it comes to the Mexican border, his solution is going to be to have the US military invade Mexico to deal with the cartels...which is incredibly problematic. Also, hit him with any question about the free market and no matter what he says will be used as ammunition by his opponents for what he's doing to Disney.

I was worried about DeSantis, but right now it looks like he's floundering badly, which is a good thing.
 
Wow, crazy idea but maybe if the GOP actually tried to lob a candidate to the public that didn't try to previously overthrow the government, doesn't have an arrest record, isn't hyper-distracted by social media, or actually has some middle-ground ideals...they could much more easily pull off a big victory in 2024 just rambling about our economy, and still keep all their existing rusted bolts and stripped nuts conveniently in place.

[ Jameson laugh ]
 
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Wow, crazy idea but maybe if the GOP actually tried to lob a candidate to the public that didn't try to previously overthrow the government, doesn't have an arrest record, isn't hyper-distracted by social media, or actually has some middle-ground ideals...they could much more easily pull off a big victory in 2024 just rambling about our economy, and still keep all their existing rusted bolts and stripped nuts conveniently in place.

[ Jameson laugh ]
Asa Hutchinson seems to fit that somewhat. He still has plenty of Republican ideas, but at the very least he's against the people who wanted to overthrow the government.
 
Asa Hutchinson seems to fit that somewhat. He still has plenty of Republican ideas, but at the very least he's against the people who wanted to overthrow the government.
In theory Christie COULD also be that candidate. The problem is that if Trump is NOT chosen, for whatever reason, he will bad mouth the candidate and kill any of their chances. They didn't remove the tumor before and now it is cancerous.
 

Amusing

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"If I'm a Democratic Party member, I am embarrassed, because he's actually doing his Democratic Party a disservice. Dark Brandon is not funny -- that's actually a really dark joke at the expense of the American public. Like, I don't think it's funny. And Brandon is not a compliment. That's all he's got to go on? Take the worst insult that he's adopted through his presidency and make something of it?"
Brandon Aggravation Disorder
 
lol. lmao, even.

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Just the absolute softest of bitches playacting as someone that doesn't have a giant, flapping vagina.
Looks like one of his posts finally caught the attention of the DOJ.
In a court filing just before 10 p.m. Friday, Senior Assistant Special Counsels Molly Gaston and Thomas Windom alerted the judge in Trump’s latest criminal case — U.S. District Court Judge Tanya Chutkan — to a combative post Trump sent earlier in the day.

ā€œIf you go after me, I’m coming after you!ā€ Trump wrote in all caps Friday afternoon on Truth Social, which is run by a media company he co-owns.

The prosecutors said Trump’s post raised concerns that he might improperly share evidence in the case on his social media account and they urged that he be ordered to keep any evidence prosecutors turn over to his defense team from public view.

Trump's newest batch of lawyers discovering that he simply can not abide by one of a lawyer's most important rules for their client; "Just shut the **** up else you make things worse".
 
Trump's newest batch of lawyers discovering that he simply can not abide by one of a lawyer's most important rules for their client; "Just shut the **** up else you make things worse".
At this point I'd say we should rename the Streisand Effect to the Streisand-Trump Effect, but then he'd probably throw a fit because he didn't get top billing.

Actually I guess it's not really the Streisand Effect, since Trump is actively sabotaging any efforts by his camp to suppress any information.
 
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