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A-mazing!



So I wasn't exactly right but I was pretty goddamned close.

And shocking absolutely nobody, Maxwell will only testify in exchange for immunity or clemency. So now Trump and his hapless DOJ need to decide if the evidence brought 5 years ago was worth anything or do they just release her and say Epstein was the only guilty party.
 
And shocking absolutely nobody, Maxwell will only testify in exchange for immunity or clemency. So now Trump and his hapless DOJ need to decide if the evidence brought 5 years ago was worth anything or do they just release her and say Epstein was the only guilty party.
Immunity is not necessarily the same thing as a pardon. Immunity in this case would just be that she doesn't get tried and convicted of additional crimes she implicates herself in. Not that she is absolved of what she's already been convicted of.
 
Immunity is not necessarily the same thing as a pardon. Immunity in this case would just be that she doesn't get tried and convicted of additional crimes she implicates herself in. Not that she is absolved of what she's already been convicted of.
IANAL, but wouldn't clemency be the bigger issue? My guess is clemency would mean Trump could pardon her, but would probably wait to sign off on it until January 19th, 2029.
 
lol.. as usual accusation is always an admission:

The order that Trump signed on Wednesday, which increases Brazil’s tariff by 40 percentage points, effective early next month, accuses the Brazilian government of “serious human rights abuses that have undermined the rule of law in Brazil.”

Funny thing is that support for the Brazilian Trump has severely diminished recently if I trust what my wife is telling me, so there really nothing to gain for the “deal maker” with this move.
 
President Donald Trump on Thursday said he would not raise U.S. tariffs on Mexican goods beyond their current levels for 90 days, in order to give the neighboring countries time to strike a trade deal.

Trump recently threatened to raise the blanket tariff rate on Mexican imports to 30%, up from the 25% duty he had previously imposed to address alleged cross-border crime and drug trafficking. Mexico is also exposed to a 25% tariff on auto imports and 50% tariffs on metals commodities.

Taco Dancing GIF by Patrick Kain
 
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Spend vast amounts of public money on something that doesn't benefit the public in any way.
Presumably it does. Don't get me wrong, I don't think a white house ballroom is a good idea, or needed, or at all reasonable, especially when we're laying off what feels like entire scientific fields. Would I prefer a well-funded NASA? Yes 100%. The sticker price for the ballroom is a half of a space mission.

But the argument will be that it will help impress foreign leaders that have the same narcissistic tendencies as Trump. And this will overall be good for US foreign relations. Do I think that's a good argument? No, absolutely not. But it's one that can't entirely be ignored either.

I think even if it did somehow make it easier to schmooze with foreign heads of state, the real issue is that a whitehouse ballroom is anti-American. It is exactly the kind of aristocratic thing that America was founded to do away with. I can imagine some old king arguing that the royal ballroom is needed so that deals could be made with neighboring kings to avoid war or somesuch, and this is used to perpetuate an upper aristocratic class. America was supposed to have a government that was of and for the people, and there is nothing about a ballroom that fits that description. So even if it's advantageous in some form or another, even if you could argue that it will help get deals done and even foster peace, America is supposed to be about all of us being equal.

Trump's administration, even if you pretend that it's somehow effective, even if you pretend that it's somehow beneficial for all (which I do not think), is about elevating himself and those around him above the rest of the country. It's about being unequal. And that's fundamentally unamerican.
 
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Presumably it does. Don't get me wrong, I don't think a white house ballroom is a good idea, or needed, or at all reasonable, especially when we're laying off what feels like entire scientific fields. Would I prefer a well-funded NASA? Yes 100%. The sticker price for the ballroom is a half of a space mission.

But the argument will be that it will help impress foreign leaders that have the same narcissistic tendencies as Trump. And this will overall be good for US foreign relations. Do I think that's a good argument? No, absolutely not. But it's one that can't entirely be ignored either.

I think even if it did somehow make it easier to schmooze with foreign heads of state, the real issue is that a whitehouse ballroom is anti-American. It is exactly the kind of aristocratic thing that America was founded to do away with. I can imagine some old king arguing that the royal ballroom is needed so that deals could be made with neighboring kings to avoid war or somesuch, and this is used to perpetuate an upper aristocratic class. America was supposed to have a government that was of and for the people, and there is nothing about a ballroom that fits that description. So even if it's advantageous in some form or another, even if you could argue that it will help get deals done and even foster peace, America is supposed to be about all of us being equal.
I assume for functions with foreign leaders up until this point they were hiring out a function room in a local Holiday Inn?

Perhaps its quite telling that the current administration clearly doesn't think it stands well on the world stage, if it feels it needs to impress foreign dignitaries in this way.

I can't begin to imagine the level of MAGA uproar had Binden pulled such a stunt.
 
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Presumably it does. Don't get me wrong, I don't think a white house ballroom is a good idea, or needed, or at all reasonable, especially when we're laying off what feels like entire scientific fields. Would I prefer a well-funded NASA? Yes 100%. The sticker price for the ballroom is a half of a space mission.

But the argument will be that it will help impress foreign leaders that have the same narcissistic tendencies as Trump. And this will overall be good for US foreign relations. Do I think that's a good argument? No, absolutely not. But it's one that can't entirely be ignored either.

I think even if it did somehow make it easier to schmooze with foreign heads of state, the real issue is that a whitehouse ballroom is anti-American. It is exactly the kind of aristocratic thing that America was founded to do away with. I can imagine some old king arguing that the royal ballroom is needed so that deals could be made with neighboring kings to avoid war or somesuch, and this is used to perpetuate an upper aristocratic class. America was supposed to have a government that was of and for the people, and there is nothing about a ballroom that fits that description. So even if it's advantageous in some form or another, even if you could argue that it will help get deals done and even foster peace, America is supposed to be about all of us being equal.

Trump's administration, even if you pretend that it's somehow effective, even if you pretend that it's somehow beneficial for all (which I do not think), is about elevating himself and those around him above the rest of the country. It's about being unequal. And that's fundamentally unamerican.
I agree wholeheartedly, but we should also expand the narcissism point.

Trump's whole presidency message is "Make America Great Again", while his actions are contrary to that mandate. Trump wants to make America great, but doesn't know how. Trump wants to be seen as the best American President, but the general consensus is that he's failing that objective as well. So what else can he do? What can he do to leave an indelible mark on American history? He can't leave it at '2 term President that was impeached in term 1 and a convicted felon in term 2'.

But every president sits in the White House. The White House is one of America's most historic buildings, seen as the seat of US power.

Wouldn't it be sublime if every president after him uses the Trump Banquet Hall? Just imagine a future president is hosting foreign dignitaries...

Pres "let's move this to the Trump Banquet Hall"

Foreign Dignitaries "The Trump Banquet Hall? What is that?"

Pres "It's a beautiful banquet hall, built by Donald Trump, the greatest president America has ever had."

It's pure self-serving narcissism. Nothing more. An absolute waste of American tax-payers money.
 
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I don't see the problem with upgrading the White nationalist House personally, heads of state have elaborate banquet halls all the time...

I mean this one is King Charlies...

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... what possible issue is there with the US president wanting to emulate a king!!!????
 
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