America - The Official Thread

[Earth]

This feels like the Columbine school shooting, in the sense that it's opened a can of worms, and set a very dangerous precedent

The columbine shooting told young people in school that if you're bullied, angry etc, shooting up your school was a viable way to respond. And we've had countless school shootings at an accelerating pace since then

The Charlie Kirk shooting tells people if you think someone's political views are bad/dangerous enough, then it's okay to kill them

Problem is, in the US both sides think eachother's political views are bad/dangerous. Both sides are in such a frenzy they can't see how extreme both of them have become

Really worried and honestly, scared about the precedent this sets. I don't see how ANY political figure at any level feels safe after this. Anyone who celebrates this is only giving fuel to the next assassin, except you have no idea whose side that assassin is on

 

[Danoff]

Really worried and honestly, scared about the precedent this sets. I don't see how ANY political figure at any level feels safe after this. Anyone who celebrates this is only giving fuel to the next assassin, except you have no idea whose side that assassin is on

Precedent? Columbine?

In what possible reality is this new? Trump had two attempted assassinations last year! This is not exactly the first time someone has been targeted. The luigi assassination (there's another video game reference), happened in December.

If you're getting excited about this specific shooting, it's because you're watching things that are trying to get you excited about it, and that's about it. It's pretty normal at this point.

January 6th is also worth a mention in this case.

 

[Joey D]

School shootings aren't new. One infamous incident happened at the University of Texas-Austin in 1966, which killed 31 people. There's also the Bath School Massacre, where a school was blown up in 1927.

Political violence in the US isn't new either, nor is this even the first case of major political violence this year. Josh Shipario's governor's mansion was a target of arson, and Melissa Hortman was shot dead in her home in Minnesota.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

School shootings aren't new. One infamous incident happened at the University of Texas-Austin in 1966, which killed 31 people. There's also the Bath School Massacre, where a school was blown up in 1927.

Political violence in the US isn't new either, nor is this even the first case of major political violence this year. Josh Shipario's governor's mansion was a target of arson, and Melissa Hortman was shot dead in her home in Minnesota.

Lets not forget the incredible levels of political violence in the 1960s and 1970s.

 

[Danoff]

Not until 2 seconds ago with Charlie Kirk did people think they should resort to violence in this country.

 

[TexRex]

Lets not forget the incredible levels of political violence in the 1960s and 1970s.

I'm regularly bewildered by the existence of a Weather Underground which provides actual information about the weather. How have they managed to pull that off?

 

[Famine]

Not until 2 seconds ago with Charlie Kirk did people think they should resort to violence in this country.

Yeah, but that's because liberals like Mike Pence were trying to sabotage the whole country by following the rule of law when it comes to certifying election results, not just saying honest and wholesome things like "I always worry when my plane has a black pilot", "I'd make my 10-year old daughter carry a rape baby to term", and "vaccines are medical apartheid".

He was just saying things.

(etc)

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Well, I can't believe I'm actually saying this, but it might be time to start supporting the NRA....

 

[TexRex]

What's the over/under on how long it takes MAGA to boycott a pediatric cancer foundation?

 

[Tired Tyres]

I didn't say it happens to most people, but some get addicted to video games and movies so much that they actually shoot people in real life. Idk, it's a bunch of mess and confusion. Whoever shot Charlie will probably be put behind bars for a long time. I don't care if a couple folks pooed my post. I'm speaking the truth.

No you are not.

 

[Liquid]

Not until 2 seconds ago with Charlie Kirk did people think they should resort to violence in this country.

"This picture brought to you by the party opposed to political violence."

I repeat again:

Republican calls for unity and healing without apology are false, meaningless and insincere.

 

[Northstar]

The FBI got insanely lucky that the dude's father was sane enough to turn his own child in.

Although they probably wished he had waited a little longer considering he doesn't fit the profile they wanted.

 

[McLaren]

Helldivers 2 but yeah. Maybe they had a point about the violent video games.

The amusing part is Helldivers 2's running gag is like Starship Troopers, it pokes a lot of fun at fascism/authoritarianism.

 

[MatskiMonk]

Really worried and honestly, scared about the precedent this sets.

Ask yourself why you are really worried now, and not on June 14th.

 

[GlamFM]

This feels like the Columbine school shooting, in the sense that it's opened a can of worms, and set a very dangerous precedent

The columbine shooting told young people in school that if you're bullied, angry etc, shooting up your school was a viable way to respond. And we've had countless school shootings at an accelerating pace since then

The Charlie Kirk shooting tells people if you think someone's political views are bad/dangerous enough, then it's okay to kill them

Problem is, in the US both sides think eachother's political views are bad/dangerous. Both sides are in such a frenzy they can't see how extreme both of them have become

Really worried and honestly, scared about the precedent this sets. I don't see how ANY political figure at any level feels safe after this. Anyone who celebrates this is only giving fuel to the next assassin, except you have no idea whose side that assassin is on

All it takes is a new president, republican or democrat, who is not a complete moron and leads by example.

You can draw a direct line from where the US are right now and the tone Trump set on the day of his inauguration.

 

[GBO Possum]

Brazil knows what to do with those who attempt a coup. Lock them up™ for 27 years and 3 months.

Bolsonaro’s guilty verdict – what it means for US-Brazil relations

US President Donald Trump has slammed former president’s trial for attempted coup as a ‘witch-hunt’.

www.aljazeera.com

EDIT: Coffee is about to see ANOTHER price hike I guess

 

[Tornado]

Problem is, in the US both sides think eachother's political views are bad/dangerous. Both sides are in such a frenzy they can't see how extreme both of them have become

Man, I was just being lectured yesterday about how this isn't a thing people actually say.

 

[FuriousDemon]

It's only human rights abuser if he abuses the right's right, right?

"The political persecutions by sanctioned human rights abuser Alexandre de Moraes continue, as he and others on Brazil's supreme court have unjustly ruled to imprison former President Jair Bolsonaro," Rubio wrote on X.

Rubio vows US response following conviction of Brazil's Bolsonaro

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the United States would respond, without specifying how, after former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro was convicted of plotting a coup to remain in power after losing the 2022 election.

www.reuters.com

 

[GBO Possum]

It's only human rights abuser if he abuses the right's right, right?

Rubio vows US response following conviction of Brazil's Bolsonaro

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the United States would respond, without specifying how, after former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro was convicted of plotting a coup to remain in power after losing the 2022 election.

www.reuters.com

If a former president is allowed to get away with an attempted coup in America, it stands to reason that Brazil should allow the same.

 

[McLaren]

It's only human rights abuser if he abuses the right's right, right?

Rubio vows US response following conviction of Brazil's Bolsonaro

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the United States would respond, without specifying how, after former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro was convicted of plotting a coup to remain in power after losing the 2022 election.

www.reuters.com

What happened to ignoring the rest of the world's problems & America First?

Oh right, the typical grandstanding campaigning.

Edit* Shout out to @Joey D for thinking outside the box & trying to determine what was the cause behind this beyond, "Musta been a trans-supporting lib" like MAGA did. Based on the new info today, a theory going around that I'm finding believable is that the kid fell down the Groyper rabbit hole. By itself, "Hey Fascist" written on a casing could be taken as "radical leftist", however, when you look at what was written on all the casings, this stuff is right in line with how Groypers/4Channers meme with each other to spread their beliefs. They love saying weird, out there things b/c it's funny to them.

• If you read this, you are gay LMAO
• Hey Fascist! Catch!
• Oh Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Ciao, Ciao!
• Notices bulge: OwO What’s this?
• ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ (Helldivers 2 reference)

Groypers are also typically young white dudes that the shooter falls right in the demographic of & coincidentally, Groypers are big followers of Nick Fuentes whom you're typically only going to be introduced to if you're already following online conservatism, which the kid might have been since he was evidently raised in a Republican household. Fuentes has been calling Trump fascist since he disavowed MAGA & the current administration for not doing enough despicable acts. Fuentes has also been beefing & trolling Charlie Kirk for years at this point.

That's the theory I'm leaning with until more information comes out about the guy's background.

Edit2* Having to recheck things, I believe the major fallout between Fuentes & Trump was ironically, the Epstein files cover-up. Nick has been upset with the way Trump keeps trying to avoid releasing them.

 

[TexRex]

I can't believe Fox News and on-air drag queen Harris Faulkner trotted out Benjamin goddamn Netanyahu to speculate about the motive of Charlie Kirk's killer...




...is something that I wish I could say truthfully.

 

[Blitz24]

I mean, using Nick Fuentes as a reason to go after Charlie Kirk would be a very interesting method because Trump probably would be too hesitant to act (just like he's doing on the Epstein files).

 

[Keef]

It's... weird that the President announced the guy's death before any law enforcement or media, and just as weird that he's announced the capture of the suspect before any law enforcement or media.

Really, really weird.

I don't think it's weird, I think it's obvious: Trump and his regime are placing Trump on the pedestal of information - a good dictator should own and be the source of all facts and truth. Various departments and officials are a complicated mess and the potential exists for the people to truth those officials rather than the dictator. Removing the responsibility of those officials to speak to the public and placing it all with the dictator solves that problem.

It's not weird, it's real tactics, strategy, historical precedent, etc.

I do not understand why anybody is still calling this weird or unusual or acting like it's just going to be fixed in the next round of elections. The entire goal is to eliminate elections and to eliminate the opportunity to fix anything at all. It is happening now. That's not weird, that's a stone cold fact.

 

[Childe Roland]

Hindu guy sends a message to a christian to meet in Norse heaven while a mormon nods with his head.
Im a little confused.

 

[Keef]

But he allegedly donated to Trump campaign

Possibly, it's a super common name. He's also from Washington, Utah, which is a suburb of St. George, but it's an independent city.

The -7238 ZIP+4 seems to be in St. George UT according to Google Maps, not in Washington UT.

@Gingerale don't forget that Utah is a by and large white-european ethnic state, largely of Scottish and English descent. Tyler Robinson is going to be an extremely common name. I'd avoid doxxing people and let actual investigators handle that part. Or even just let some other random person on the internet take on that project.

 

[UKMikey]

Really worried and honestly, scared about the precedent this sets. I don't see how ANY political figure at any level feels safe after this. Anyone who celebrates this is only giving fuel to the next assassin, except you have no idea whose side that assassin is on

cough cough 16th President cough cough

 

[Joey D]

Hindu guy sends a message to a christian to meet in Norse heaven while a mormon nods with his head.
Im a little confused.

I was laughing at that. Especially because to get into Valhalla, you either need to die in battle, with a weapon in your hand, or between a woman's legs.

@Gingerale don't forget that Utah is a by and large white-european ethnic state, largely of Scottish and English descent. Tyler Robinson is going to be an extremely common name. I'd avoid doxxing people and let actual investigators handle that part. Or even just let some other random person on the internet take on that project.

The population of Utah is also very related (and inbred) too. The state was only settled by a small group of people and the St. George area was especially settled by a small group of cotton farmers slave directors around the Civil War. They still call that area Utah's Dixie, and it's probably the most racist place in the state. It's also full of Mormon Fundamentalists who like to practice polygamy with 14-year-old girls.

 

[UKMikey]

I was laughing at that. Especially because to get into Valhalla, you either need to die in battle, with a weapon in your hand, or between a woman's legs.

So, John Entwistle, then?...

 

[sirjim73]

I was laughing at that. Especially because to get into Valhalla, you either need to die in battle, with a weapon in your hand, or between a woman's legs.

That's me damned for eternity then

 

[Blitz24]

I was laughing at that. Especially because to get into Valhalla, you either need to die in battle, with a weapon in your hand, or between a woman's legs.

So if you do 2 of the 3, does it become a double negative and you end up in purgatory? Asking for a friend.