Sane people would have been condemning Kirk as a mentally ill cultist who advocates for the death of people he doesn't like and doesn't believe other humans deserve the same rights as white male christian nationalists do.
They also had a minute of silence for this vlogger at the NFL game. The same NFL that trump said has to stay out of politics. All this talk about left celebrating and going low…I mean, sure some people celebrate his murder (there’s much more right wingers who celebrate violence against the left/black/immigrants/lgbtq) Most just shrug and go on about their day. If left is only starting to go low, right has been 6 feet under with their morals for over a decade now.
Conservatives push the myth that the Nazis were left, and some even push the idea that Hamas and the Taliban are left. I don't think it would be too hard to spin it that way, especially given the media machine, and then throw in some antisemitism for good measure.
I don't know, there's already a rift there and Fuentes has called MAGA "weaklings." He also said this on one of his podcasts (via Newsweek):
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I don't think it was a conclusion at all. I think he simply doesn't care about the guy's death at all. What Trump does care about is this is a fantastic opportunity to seize, and his "conclusion" was actually a call to action. Two days later he was more interested in providing a soundbite about the ballroom construction than answering questions about Kirk.
It's true that the left-right spectrum is a scam and doesn't define anything well enough but how are we supposed to teach an entire country to use a Nolan chart when they can barely count all their fingers and toes?
Wanted. I know. It was also the case here that "everyone" wanted (and some still do, like that bitch Derrick Evans from West Virginia from which I posted a screenshot up-thread) it to be the case given their political leanings.
You may mean that but it doesn't reflect reality. I think you mean the subset [of the actual real everyone] that populate your cozy echo chamber and with whom you share a delusional worldview. That's more believable and explains a lot.
Oh. Neat. Honesty. More of that, please.
Gosh!
That's weird because I think I'm fairly online and the extent of my knowledge about groypers is that they're associated with Nick Fuentes (which is a very funny name, things considered) and I don't know an awful lot about that bitch but I am aware of a video in which the bitch is talking about baking "cookies" and how it takes a certain amount of time to bake "cookies" in batches and that there couldn't have been enough time to bake six million "cookies" so that number of "cookies" must have been made up...and I don't think he was actually talking about cookies. I think he may have been talking about Jews killed by the Nazis, and was focusing on a particular method they used to kill Jews and was asserting that that was the only method they used, denying that they used other methods, to craft a narrative in which the Jews that survived have lied about the total number of Jews that the Nazis killed. I should say that I saw this video posted online by an account bringing attention to it for its absurdity and callousness.
What's new from the left is old hat from the right. It's so normalized that even very high profile politicians do it, and here's a sitting United States Senator (representing Utah, even) mocking the murder of Minessota Democratic lawmaker Melissa Hortman along with her husband and their dog.
Sinple political convenience.
Gotcha. And I appreciate that. I [mis]understood "gopnik" as relating to groyper...culture, I guess, but that feels wrong.@TexRex In the interest of fairness, gopnik is a Slavic meme from Slavic culture; squatting Slavs in Adidas tracksuits with the three stripes and wearing a flatcap predates the internet and is well known in Slavic countries such as Czechia, Slovakia, Russia, Serbia, Poland and so on. There are countless pages from Slavic pages and accounts that do nothing but post amusing pictures of people unironically and ironically in this classic, cliched outfit.
I, like @novcze, also have no idea how it became part of this right-wing US culture war nonsense.
For decades, at least in the mid-atlantic states, we called that an I-talian and eventually, the Russian business suit…@TexRex In the interest of fairness, gopnik is a Slavic meme from Slavic culture; squatting Slavs in Adidas tracksuits with the three stripes and wearing a flatcap predates the internet and is well known in Slavic countries such as Czechia, Slovakia, Russia, Serbia, Poland and so on. There are countless pages from Slavic pages and accounts that do nothing but post amusing pictures of people unironically and ironically in this classic, cliched outfit.
I, like @novcze, also have no idea how it became part of this right-wing US culture war nonsense.
Yeah big dog, because the right is well known for the condemning of violence on a liberal.
There's a rift for sure, but Fuentes just has way too much of a documented history of saying right wing things & associating with prominent right wing folks for anyone within' the conservative sphere to label him a radical leftist. It would be too easily refutable.I don't know, there's already a rift there and Fuentes has called MAGA "weaklings." He also said this on one of his podcasts (via Newsweek):
Far-right influencer denounces Trump over Epstein: "Liber...
Nick Fuentes dined with Trump and Kanye West at Mar-a-Lago in 2022 and supported Trump in the 2024 election—but he ultimately refused to endorse him.
Anyone who doesn't agree with or like MAGA is going to be a leftist, even if that's not even remotely true.
So, what does he expect to take, when the White House is already taken?
Lol, nothing will happen. Hegseth wasn't punished for his Signal issue so Trump won't do anything here.FBI Director Kash Patel faces scrutiny for inaccurately saying Kirk killer had been caught
Patel announced on social media that the person responsible for the shooting was in custody.www.reuters.com
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I know the left is a spectrum, and I said ‘some people,’ which should make that clear.
It’s really a Russian subculture, not a generally Slavic thing, but for some reason some people like it.
Nowhere. I generally don’t have time to ‘hang out’ on the internet nowadays. I only know Kirk from a few YouTube videos. I don’t know what stupid things he may have said over time, so I think you’re overreacting to my simple condemnation of violence.
Don't worry, there are a number of people here who have concluded that because Trump, and far right are (undoubtedly) scum they should all be murdered asap. There's atleast one person here openly hoping for civil war. Because that went so well the last time? Remember more Americans were killed in the civil war than by ALL other countries in ALL other wars combined. And tanks etc didnt exist then.
