An idea!

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Stiglitz

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Hello !

Would something like being able to scan my own car, and be able to submit that data to the game and have it to play with, be possible ? Like an APP in game prepared to read the data from a supposed scan?, i was thinking with a smartphone with an enough powerful camera

Too far from reality?

Thank you
 
Lomic
Yeah sure 😅 they take 6 months to make any new car, they will surely offer all random plebs to submit their own car 😂
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Its not like they are obligated to get it into the game, just have it there for -an eventual- actual inclusion of the car in-game
 
Technology and AI is improving fast, at some point AI will be able to fully or mostly automate the work involved in creating an accurate car mesh to a desired standard. But we aren't there yet, and even if we do get there, we'll never likely have a situation where we as consumers will be able to access an official built in feature or app that allow us to import a car into the game by scanning it from a camera or phone due to licensing issues.
 
alvitoxde123
I see possible in a future having to fill an form from PD where you specify your car specs, and send an scan made by the yourself. Then if they can license the car, they aldready have the scan prepared.
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That's not happening because that's not how that works.

PD in all likelihood curates a list of vehicles they'd like to have, then sends the corresponding list to each manufacturer for approval. Manufacturer responds with stipulations; licensing fees, special rules about how the cars are treated in-game (likely why some OEMs are missing engine swaps and weight reduction) and other amendments and PD decides to okay or not. Then it's the matter of release schedules and actual modeling.

If you want your personal vehicle in a GT game... Honestly your best bet is purchasing whatever legally remains of a dead OEM that they might be interested in including & an example of the car you want added.
 
I have to assume what they use to 'scan' cars is more than just a camera (if anything, an array of cameras precisely situated around the car, in a controlled environment with uniform lighting) and they probably take more-traditional measurements as well. It's hard to say how much of a complete 3D model a 'scan' will give them, but they probably have to go back and touch up quite a lot manually. A basic camera or phone might give you an approximation, but it would look pretty bad compared to the standard of car models in modern games. Assuming you could get a perfect scan of the exterior, there still the interior, which I have to assume is much more complicated.

But beyond a 3D scan, there's the weight of the car, the distribution of the weight and center of gravity, the size and type and mounting location of the engine, the power/torque curve, the type of transmission, the suspension, the sound of the engine and the sound of the exhaust, the size of the fuel tank and fuel efficiency...

The technology just isn't there to get a convincing 3D scan with pictures taken from a walk-around. But even if it was, it couldn't possibly know all (or any) of those characteristics from photos, which determine exactly how the car drives and sounds. You would basically just a have a shell with generic performance values, some of which you maybe could tweak, but I don't think that would be good enough to properly capture the handling/performance.
 
astrarobotica
I have to assume what they use to 'scan' cars is more than just a camera (if anything, an array of cameras precisely situated around the car, in a controlled environment with uniform lighting) and they probably take more-traditional measurements as well. It's hard to say how much of a complete 3D model a 'scan' will give them, but they probably have to go back and touch up quite a lot manually. A basic camera or phone might give you an approximation, but it would look pretty bad compared to the standard of car models in modern games. Assuming you could get a perfect scan of the exterior, there still the interior, which I have to assume is much more complicated.

But beyond a 3D scan, there's the weight of the car, the distribution of the weight and center of gravity, the size and type and mounting location of the engine, the power/torque curve, the type of transmission, the suspension, the sound of the engine and the sound of the exhaust, the size of the fuel tank and fuel efficiency...

The technology just isn't there to get a convincing 3D scan with pictures taken from a walk-around. But even if it was, it couldn't possibly know all (or any) of those characteristics from photos, which determine exactly how the car drives and sounds. You would basically just a have a shell with generic performance values, some of which you maybe could tweak, but I don't think that would be good enough to properly capture the handling/performance.
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Yeah, the whole premise posited by OP is vastly underestimating how much work goes into the thing.
 
benjoi84
Yeah, the whole premise posited by OP is vastly underestimating how much work goes into the thing.
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I think it's a perfectly reasonable question. We're just so dependent on the convenience of modern technology, particularly computers, without needing to properly understand how they actually work, and the vast majority of people don't. And the only way you get an understanding of those things is through college/university or just learning on your own. And in a vacuum that's not necessarily a bad thing, but I think it's rapidly becoming problematic with the tech industry's obsession with AI, because the corporations trying to profit off of it are relying on the fact that most people have no idea how that technology actually works. It might as well be magic.

All of the marketing around LLMs is either: a neat little gimmick that makes editing photos on your phone easier, or trying to convince people that 'AI' is much more advanced than it actually is, or just that it will be in The Future™, even though the corporations throwing billions at it have no idea what it will be truly useful for in a way that's actually profitable. It's digital snake oil. Unfortunately that's convinced a lot of people use ChatGPT as an alternative to a proper search engine, and to ask it questions as if it has human-level reasoning. I have a coworker who supposedly relies on it for prescription medication advice.

I guess that was a bit of a tangent on AI, but I think it's relevant because it only further obscures how technology works and what it's actually capable of. When all of these companies are trying to convince us that our phones have this Super Powerful AI inside of them, I think it has a knock-on effect where people assume that if we already have this powerful AI, that is seemingly the technology of the future which will revolutionize society, then taking some photos of a car with your phone and having it create a high-quality model (and conveniently just figuring out everything else about the car) doesn't seem that unreasonable.
 
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They use lidar inside and out, pictures of every single surface, they colour sync their data/imagery. If there are clocks or other gauges, they set them to every single mode and configuration. They record the sound of every gear in different rpm ranges.

If you’ve got PSVR2 - only then will you truly appreciate these car models in GT7 and why it takes them so long to create.
 

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