Analogue stick for go / stop

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Does anyone here use the analogue stick on a DS3 controller for acceleration and braking? If so, does it take long to get used to, or is it a bad idea?

I've had a couple of goes and found it to be great for long bends where you want a steady pace, but not full speed. But, I generally give up with it after a mistake or two. The question is, is it worth sticking with.... will it work out better than X for go, 0 for stop??


I know a wheel is the answer, but the wheel I want, I can't afford (that new Thrustmaster thingy...)!!
 
Is it possible to have the stick for accelerate and a button for brake?

Only reason I say that is because if heel/toe braking
Or rather finger/ thumb or however you could do it.

Haven't played with a pad for awhile now. Probably useless at it TBH.
 
I use the analog stick.

It's better than X or R2 and L2 I think, more control.

I used X in GT2 but then started to use the analog in GT3 onwards, never changed back since.
 
I have used the right stick for gas and brake since GT1. I have a lot more control that way instead of using L1 and R1. I also use R1 and R2 for up and down shifts.
 
I used the right analog stick for both acc and for brake I found it easier to control throttle input more accurately, it probably took 2-3 days to fully get used to it, much better then using the buttons IMO.
 
Thanks all, that's really useful. I think I'll try and get the hang of it while saving up...:-)
 
Use the analog stick for the throttle only and assign either L2 or R2 for brake. Whichever you prefer. You get control and you can brake and apply throttle at the same time too.
 
F1Addict
Use the analog stick for the throttle only and assign either L2 or R2 for brake. Whichever you prefer. You get control and you can brake and apply throttle at the same time too.
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That's a good idea... I'll give it a go. Thanks.
 
F1Addict
Use the analog stick for the throttle only and assign either L2 or R2 for brake. Whichever you prefer. You get control and you can brake and apply throttle at the same time too.
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You should not do ever do this, fast times come from clean accelerating and hard braking, never using both at once.
 
chippy1000
You should not do ever do this, fast times come from clean accelerating and hard braking, never using both at once.
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Look up left foot braking and heel-toe.

Anytime you say "never" you open yourself up to being wrong quite easily. Very few rules have no exceptions.
 
R2 and L2 are the only way to go for acceleration and braking on the DS3. Anyone who does otherwise is just plain stupid.

And using the brakes and gas at the same time actually helps A LOT with some cars.

But I am going to disagree again and say that having the analog stick as either accelerate or brake and then L2 / R2 as the other is even more stupid than just using the analog stick.

BUT the analog stick is better then using X and [], R2 and L2 give the throttle sensitivity of using the analog without the stupidity of trying to fiddle with it
 
As said... better than using X/O but probably not as good as the triggers.

On some faster (or more wayward cars) you need to start gently braking while decreasing throttle so that the weight transfer isn't quite so sudden. That's obviously impossible using a single analogue stick as you have to stop throttling to start braking (and vice versa).
 
TenEightyOne
As said... better than using X/O but probably not as good as the triggers.

On some faster (or more wayward cars) you need to start gently braking while decreasing throttle so that the weight transfer isn't quite so sudden. That's obviously impossible using a single analogue stick as you have to stop throttling to start braking (and vice versa).
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I was moreso saying if you use the buttons you are just plain not going to be able to drive like you can with the triggers.
 
Poppins
R2 and L2 are the only way to go for acceleration and braking on the DS3. Anyone who does otherwise is just plain stupid.

And using the brakes and gas at the same time actually helps A LOT with some cars.

But I am going to disagree again and say that having the analog stick as either accelerate or brake and then L2 / R2 as the other is even more stupid than just using the analog stick.

BUT the analog stick is better then using X and [], R2 and L2 give the throttle sensitivity of using the analog without the stupidity of trying to fiddle with it
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I suppose your 1st racing game was on X360/PS3, yeah? I've seen many replies like that from people who started with some crap as Motorstorm which has R2/L2 setup.
So i would say...saying that someone who are using different setup than you are stupid... is stupid.
I use right analogue stick since GT3 as well and i'm a way faster with this, than i'm with L2/R2. Never even had a race when i felt like i need use gas and brake at the same time.
Besides, as far as i know, using DS3 just sucks in this game, because Kazunori-sama thought it would be great to make a perfect control in game for 10% of the players who have the wheel. So it's doesn't really matter who's setup sucks more... hell, even some wheels didn't got a full support in GT5, so forget about a "proper" control with a DS3.
 
freedomweasel
Look up left foot braking and heel-toe.

Anytime you say "never" you open yourself up to being wrong quite easily. Very few rules have no exceptions.
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1-So you heel and to brake with a controller? By definition thats impossible.

2-By the way F1 addict posted his controls sounds like he using auto. Impossible to heel toe with auto.

3-When using a controller I'm pretty sure that the game automatically rev matches when down shifting making heel toe braking redundant.

4- I know exactly what left foot braking is and it is a technique used to instantly push the brake when you lift off the throttle, it is so there is no gap in braking and acceleration it is not for braking and accelerating at the same time.
 
Yeah the game is pretty hag with a DS3 but I manage 30 second Indy laps in my S. Vet no problems with the DS3 and if I used the analog instead of L2/R2 it would be the same because of the track, the main difference when it comes to lap times is tricky tracks with tight cornering where L2 / R2 is just plain superior.

And no Ive played many racing games, for example the triggers on a ps2 controller arent throttle sensitive so using the analog can help a lot with GT3 and GT4, But since the PS3 has movement sensitive triggers I can apply the same precision throttle as an analog without having it move left or right as well as being able to give it a bit of brakes while flooring it to get the back end out a bit easier on tight corners for example.

EDIT for post above mine, I dont think the game rev matches when downshifting.
 
Poppins
R2 and L2 are the only way to go for acceleration and braking on the DS3. Anyone who does otherwise is just plain stupid.

And using the brakes and gas at the same time actually helps A LOT with some cars.

But I am going to disagree again and say that having the analog stick as either accelerate or brake and then L2 / R2 as the other is even more stupid than just using the analog stick.

BUT the analog stick is better then using X and [], R2 and L2 give the throttle sensitivity of using the analog without the stupidity of trying to fiddle with it
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Did you read the part in the AUP about not insulting other members?

I have tried switching to R2/L2 but it just feels wrong to me and limits my level of control. I use the right analogue stick for both accelerate and brake, it gives me much better control than any other configuration that I've tried. Ultimately, it all comes down to personal preference, I prefer the analogue sticks, other people may prefer the buttons or the triggers.
 
I have been playing this game since gt1. As soon as analog sticks came out I was using them. Using r2 l2 for shifting. By far my preferred way of playing. And I'm one of the fastest cleanest racers online. So stick to what feels right for you.
 
Someone here recommended I use the R2 for gas, and L2 for brake.....and use the right analog for shifting. I adapted very quickly....and can't belive I didn't use this combo along time ago.
 
chippy1000
1-So you heel and to brake with a controller? By definition thats impossible.

2-By the way F1 addict posted his controls sounds like he using auto. Impossible to heel toe with auto.

3-When using a controller I'm pretty sure that the game automatically rev matches when down shifting making heel toe braking redundant.

4- I know exactly what left foot braking is and it is a technique used to instantly push the brake when you lift off the throttle, it is so there is no gap in braking and acceleration it is not for braking and accelerating at the same time.
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First, your post said to never use the brake and gas at the same time, as it will always result in slower times. I gave you two techniques which require the use of brake and gas simultaneously.

If you want to speak only in game terms using a gamepad, then fine, heel-toe isn't applicable.

Even a casual look at a wikipedia page will show you that left foot braking can mean more than one thing, not just using your left foot brake after your right foot lifts. There are instances where one would want to brake with the left *and* use the right to control the throttle.
 
freedomweasel
First, your post said to never use the brake and gas at the same time, as it will always result in slower times. I gave you two techniques which require the use of brake and gas simultaneously.

If you want to speak only in game terms using a gamepad, then fine, heel-toe isn't applicable.

Even a casual look at a wikipedia page will show you that left foot braking can mean more than one thing, not just using your left foot brake after your right foot lifts. There are instances where one would want to brake with the left *and* use the right to control the throttle.
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I never said "it will always result in slow time'' so you are totally wrong there.

And as for talking in ''game terms only'' well I don't really know what to say to that I thought it was blatantly obvious that we were all discussing one particular game and which controls we use to play it.
 
You can remap just about any button to any action. I use the right analog stick as the brake, but I push up on it. (you have to change that from the default.) Then I use R2 for accelerator.
It works great for me. I have excellent brake control when braking late coming off the straights with the analog stick. it feels more natural to me to push the stick up when braking like I'm pushing the pedal down in a car, and then the R2 gives excellent control coming out of the corner with high HP cars.

That's just me though...
 
chippy1000
You should not do ever do this, fast times come from clean accelerating and hard braking, never using both at once.
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I think my post came across with a different meaning. I agree you shouldn't brake and accelerate at the same time, but sometimes for those higher speed turns that you need to slow down slightly for, I find that a slight bit of brake with a bit of throttle lift is quicker for me. Not braking and just lifting, or braking slightly and lifting may be the better option, but with a DS3 the steering input does not always match how much you turn the wheel so its kinda hard to steer enough without braking.
The driving technique I use with the DS3 might be a bad one, especially in real life, but within the game it works for me. :)

chippy1000
2-By the way F1 addict posted his controls sounds like he using auto. Impossible to heel toe with auto.
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I don't use auto where possible. Ever. Auto is :yuck: imo.
 
old school gt1 racer here, and right stick for gas and brake, and left for steering. just like running a R/C car.

i added the r2 for a brake also so I could use it along with throttle mostly for the X2010 to try to control it better.
 
seadog777
Does anyone here use the analogue stick on a DS3 controller for acceleration and braking? If so, does it take long to get used to, or is it a bad idea?

I've had a couple of goes and found it to be great for long bends where you want a steady pace, but not full speed. But, I generally give up with it after a mistake or two. The question is, is it worth sticking with.... will it work out better than X for go, 0 for stop??


I know a wheel is the answer, but the wheel I want, I can't afford (that new Thrustmaster thingy...)!!
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When I was doing the GT academy last year I played with X as accelerator
I tried Analog next and It was half second quicker,
Then I tried L2 and R2 as acc and brake. It was same as analog for me.
Then I got the wheel and It was almost a full second quicker than analogs && R2 L2.

I got 1:36.2 in the tuned car with wheel so I was laping pretty consistently and it was good to compare the differant set ups
 
chippy1000
I never said "it will always result in slow time'' so you are totally wrong there.

And as for talking in ''game terms only'' well I don't really know what to say to that I thought it was blatantly obvious that we were all discussing one particular game and which controls we use to play it.
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"You should not do ever do this, fast times come from clean accelerating and hard braking, never using both at once." (emphasis added)

To me that sounds like you're saying to never use brake and gas simultaneously, as you will be less fast when compared to using them separately. I don't see any other way to interpret the words.

Being a sim-ish type of game, countless threads that focus on tuning or driving techniques (such as your statement above) reference real life techniques. There are two or three other people in this very thread making mention of techniques (used in-game and in real life) that require two simultaneous inputs.

Anyway, I have no desire to continue this. Sorry if I misinterpreted your original post, but as I said, whenever one says "never" or "always"...
 
chippy1000
You should not do ever do this, fast times come from clean accelerating and hard braking, never using both at once.
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I used to do this and it worked great for me.

Analog for acc and L2 for brakes. Once you get the hang of it you can actually get great times with it. I didnt like having the brake on the analog at all.
 

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