Another new car search, changing my mind?

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The recent Ralliart's are definitely out of my reach.

Today, I asked some of the sales staff if they could look at the auctions and see if they could find an IS300 Sportcross... They didn't get back to me today, but I'll see what they find tomorrow. Not expecting much with such low numbers.

How bad would it be for me to do a auto loan from a bank on a 10 year old car...? :scared:
 
@MedigoFlame many banks have a lot of restrictions on cars they'll loan money on. My brother applied for a loan for a truck and he was limited to a truck no older than 6 years old and it had to have under 100K miles. From what I've heard and read, Credit Unions are generally more lenient with their loans.
 
I'll consider it, but may try and see if I could convince another family member to help me out.

On the other hand, I just talked with my current insurance provider and the Lexus is actually cheaper than the Mazda. :lol: (I'm guessing it's due to the safety features the Lexus has over the Mazda)
 
Well...considering doing financing on the Lexus if it turns out to be good. Any tips on doing this? I don't have any credit (good or bad), but plan on having my brother who does have good credit cosign with me. And I plan on putting down a decent sized down payment... As I don't know much about doing this, is it possible to even negotiate when financing a car? :dunce:
 
Well, I honestly can't recommend that you finance the car, but with that said, the first hurdle is getting financing on a 10 year old car. Lots of places have mileage and age limits on loans they'll give you, and 10 years is right on the edge.

Assuming that isn't a concern, there are two ways to do financing. You can go to a bank/credit union and be pre-approved for a certain amount (loaned money is good for either private party or dealer sale), or you can finance through a dealer (loaned money is only good with that particular dealer). If you get the loan through a bank/credit union, when you buy a car at a dealer, it is similar to buying with cash, other than additional paperwork, the dealer gets whatever amount is agreed to.

If you have to finance, financing through a bank/credit union is generally preferable than to go through the dealer. The bank/credit union will generally have better rates and better terms. This will also give you more flexibility to cross shop between different sellers. Between banks and credit unions, credit unions tend to offer slightly better rates and terms, though that really depends on each individual institution, and you'll have to research and cross-shop. Financing through the dealer I think tends to be a little easier (ie. they'll loan to people with worse credit), but you get worse rates, and the loan is only good at that dealer or dealer network.

As with anything in buying a car, everything can be negotiated, even the financing and terms. Just because you're financing does not lock you out of being able to negotiate for a lower price. However, if only one dealer will give you financing, and you desperately want the car, you may end up being locked into that deal just purely by your emotional desire, which means you'll lose one of the most powerful negotiating tool: your ability to walk away from a deal.

All this financing talk though, is contingent upon being approved. Not having any credit history makes it incredibly difficult, especially with banks/credit unions post-crash. Not having credit history is almost even worse than having a bad history, because then at least they know how bad you may be. I'll be honest, I think even with a co-signer, it's going to be difficult for you to get a loan for a 10 year old Lexus, at least at any sort of decent rates from a bank/credit union.

Just another tidbit, if you haven't already thought about it already, you should go get a credit card from your local bank, just to build credit. They'll start you off with a small limit, use only about 1/3 of the limit during each billing cycle and always have enough cash on hand to cover your credit card balance, and make sure you pay it off in full every month. You have to start building credit.
 
Figured that it wasn't entirely the best idea... But finally thinking things through a little more I suppose. With some connections, I was able to find that the service history was rather spotty on the vehicle. The IS300 requires a 90k or 9 year maintenance service that is...rather large and can be quite expensive. When I called about the car, the dealership said that they didn't have the service history but said that their technicians "looked it over thoroughly." Would it be a good bargaining tactic to point out the lack of service history and the missed maintenance? Or would they just not care...

Planning on looking at the car on Tuesday and if it turns out good, I suppose I could work things out with a family member. Then possibly do the purchase on Saturday.

I did sell my Mazda yesterday and now have a total of $9k to spend (Of course keeping some for reserve and not blowing all of my money). Currently have my brother's car I can use as he doesn't really have a use for it with no job.
 
Honestly, they probably won't care. If you don't buy it or you're concerned because of the lack of service history (which doesn't mean it hasn't been serviced) there is someone else who couldn't care less about the lack of history that will buy it.

But that is part of haggling. Use everything you can to try and get the price down, even if you think it may not do anything.
 
I may just be digging myself too much of a hole.

On the other hand...what if I suddenly went the other route with...beaters? :lol:
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http://maine.craigslist.org/cto/4475341627.html

Edit: Completely forgot that there was a Lexus specialist nearby. Thinking I might see how they compare to getting work done at the dealership...
 
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How would your parents look towards being co-signers on a financing contract for a new or pre-owned car? I talked mine into it and was able to get a brand new Ford Escape last winter. Your parents won't have to spend a single penny as such, unless you go broke, in which case they'll be on the hook to pay off the rest of the deal. Obviously you have to be very responsible with your money and have a stable job, but with $9k sitting in your bank you won't be risking that much, and when you pay off the deal in full, it'll be a very good mark on your credit history.

Otherwise financing a 10 year old car is never a good idea. For the reasons @Crash mentioned and for the simple fact that the car's no longer under warranty, and with a financing contract, regardless of whether it turns out to be a complete lemon you'll still have to continue paying for it.
 
Had a look at the car and everything turned out to be pretty good. Despite one of the rear headrest missing and there being winter tires on it as well as mushy brakes. I talked them down to $10,500 and they'd replace the pads and rotors! So...I think I might just take it up. :D
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90K is when the timing belt gets replaced. Spark plugs, too...if they didn't do it by then (some folks liked to do it at 60K). Since it's a 2JZ motor, a Toyota shop could do it cheaper. Look under the hood, and see if there's a white sticker (or a black-and-silver sticker) on the air intake/radiator brace/engine area showing the (possible) replacement date. After that, the service history is a bit moot, unless you want to know if there's been an accident.

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Bah, those rear headrests just get in the way of the back window. You could probably get one from eBay or even a pick/pull yard.
 
Might be back to the search again...

My uncle backed out on me (I'm probably about $2k short myself) after having offered to help earlier. Also got an email from the salesperson telling me they had someone else who had just put a deposit down on the vehicle today.
 
Double post... The IS300 Sportcross will probably not happen at this rate. So...I've been on the search for IS300 sedans and even the GS models. Haven't found much for the IS300's (although I could always just ask for the sedan from the sales team to find at auction) and had...some luck with the GS's.

Found this and thought it was interesting.

2001 Lexus GS300 L-Tuned
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http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/4519412349.html

Contacted the seller and I have been getting some information on the vehicle. From some information I've been given, it seems as though this may be a legitimate L-Tuned GS. Which was a tuning company for Lexus that offered different wheels, exterior pieces, and sport tuned suspension. The wheels aren't stock...but I strangely like them... Any recommendations/complaints about the Lexus GS300?

I love wagons, but...maybe it just wouldn't hurt to look at sedans. I was being a bit stubborn. :lol:
 
Wow, I am late to this conversation and haven't much right to jump in (especially since I have not taken the time to read all 4 pages of posts up to this point!), but as a fellow glacier silver 6 owner, I feel strangely compelled so:

I'm just curious if you still have the 6? If you do still have it, I'd try to get more than $6,300(?) for it personally, unless it does have a lot of issues... I mean, I live in Texas, so I really have no idea what that snow and rust is all about. But man, a wagon 6, you never see those...

And I did see your recent post about the Lexus, is that not rear-wheel drive though? Seems to me you could find a Subaru wagon fairly easily there, no? I don't mean to bring any negativity though if you're close to getting a new car, if you're good with it by all means, go for it - I just stumbled on this and was curious is all!
 
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