Christian_C
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Do I have a complete lack of understand in this area or is it that GT5 simulates ARB's badly.
For example, I did some reading and from what I could understand the simple rules of ARB's is this:
-To reduce understeer- soften front ARB / stiffen rear ARB
-To reduce oversteer- stiffen front ARB / soften rear ARB
Yet in practice whenever I soften the front ARB to reduce mid-corner understeer I get the opposite effect and get yet more understeer. However when I stiffen the front ARB the car seems to become more responsive and results in less understeer.
For example, before noticing this odd 'phenomenon' (if that's what it is and not just me being stupid) I'd go to the complete max of adjustment is desperation to rid myself of understeer and seem to end up with more
The reason I post this is that I've just taken a Z4 I had built but not touched tune wise at all and driven it with front ARB settings of 1,3 & 7 respectively and observed the following results:
ARB setting at 3 (default start position) for the sake of the argument I'm putting across I'll just presume this state to be 'neutral handling'
ARB setting at 1 (to test the soften front bar to increase oversteer theory) I suffered from absolutely horrendous understeer through the corners and direction change became simply abominably bad.
ARB setting at 7 (to test the soften front bar to increase understeer theory) I found this set up to provide a much more rigid feel and I suffered from no understeer at all, in fact the opposite happened and I suffered from an increase in oversteer and the limiting element to the handling was the other suspension settings.
Now this makes... NO SENSE to me whatsoever and flies completely in the face of everything I've ever read about ARB's. So am I either stupid, inept or experiencing something that no one else seems to?
For example, I did some reading and from what I could understand the simple rules of ARB's is this:
-To reduce understeer- soften front ARB / stiffen rear ARB
-To reduce oversteer- stiffen front ARB / soften rear ARB
Yet in practice whenever I soften the front ARB to reduce mid-corner understeer I get the opposite effect and get yet more understeer. However when I stiffen the front ARB the car seems to become more responsive and results in less understeer.
For example, before noticing this odd 'phenomenon' (if that's what it is and not just me being stupid) I'd go to the complete max of adjustment is desperation to rid myself of understeer and seem to end up with more
The reason I post this is that I've just taken a Z4 I had built but not touched tune wise at all and driven it with front ARB settings of 1,3 & 7 respectively and observed the following results:
ARB setting at 3 (default start position) for the sake of the argument I'm putting across I'll just presume this state to be 'neutral handling'
ARB setting at 1 (to test the soften front bar to increase oversteer theory) I suffered from absolutely horrendous understeer through the corners and direction change became simply abominably bad.
ARB setting at 7 (to test the soften front bar to increase understeer theory) I found this set up to provide a much more rigid feel and I suffered from no understeer at all, in fact the opposite happened and I suffered from an increase in oversteer and the limiting element to the handling was the other suspension settings.
Now this makes... NO SENSE to me whatsoever and flies completely in the face of everything I've ever read about ARB's. So am I either stupid, inept or experiencing something that no one else seems to?