Any cars that handle well straight out of the box?

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The Griffith is great handling, and it's lighter than the 350C (not that it bothers me I still like it more)
 
I was recently forced to take a month's break from GT4, so when I came back I'd gone from being pretty damn fast to not being able to drive at all :ouch: So I thought it'd be interesting to get used to things again using stock cars rather than taking my usual all the 'best' parts approach. I wish someone could have told me what I was missing out on..

I really like the RX-7 Spirit Type A thing (I forget the name), the only RX-7 you can buy new (apart from the RE Amemiya, but that doesn't count).

I've mainly been using stocks to learn to drift though, so I can't comment on any others grip-wise.
 
you can add a New GTO to the list... I was screwing around watching myself destroy a 95 RX-7 with an M3, and decided to throw a GTO in the mix, and despite being somehow slower, with it's extra 100 HP, and despite weighing in at nearly 1700KG, it beat the 'ol RX by nearly a full second! Extremely neutral when on, or off the gas, and had the least understeer of the bunch under hard braking - a real pleasure to drive
 
Wow, you really love your flame wars. (While I will agree that the BMW M3 and the Pontiac GTO have very neutral, well done chassis' and relatively high handling limits, the simple fact that you continue to try to argue against the handling merits of a shrink-wrapped, purpose built, 2 seat, less-than-3000 pound performance car to a sporty BMW that weighs nearly 600 pounds more and a modified family sedan that weighs about a half-ton more tells me that you are just spitting out random phrases just to get attention. It also tells me that you are very bad at driving the FD RX-7.)
 
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Wow, you really love your flame wars. (While I will agree that the BMW M3 and the Pontiac GTO have very neutral, well done chassis' and relatively high handling limits, the simple fact that you continue to try to argue against the handling merits of a shrink-wrapped, purpose built, 2 seat, less-than-3000 pound performance car to a sporty BMW that weighs nearly 600 pounds more and a modified family sedan that weighs about a half-ton more tells me that you are just spitting out random phrases just to get attention. It also tells me that you are very bad at driving the FD RX-7.)
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Thank you..

I don't have any against BMW M3's there THE sports car. But there not the best. Not even close. RX-7's handlings are praised by the import gods. And theres more, the S2000 is easly an amazing car. And will ruin any other 4 banger. GTO's are also great cars. But when it comes to the ability to get around a corner in GT4, I have to give it to a GT-R Nur II, RX-7 Bathurst, or a Honda S2000. The C6 would also be there, but it's not in the game.
 
I would easily toss in the Protomotors Spirra and the Spyker Laviolette. Both are rather neutral stock and can go to controllable understeer on demand.

Memory serves me that my experiences in a Holden Monaro in the Nür 4 hour were excellent, as well. ;)
 
nowadays, before I tragically lost my PS2, I drove with stock cars that had oil change and chassis refresh done. but, here are the cars I used.

BMW 120i - neutral handling when driven calmly, tendency to oversteer when stepping on it. destroyed cars like M coupe and other 300bhp+ cars after tyres had warmed up.

Mazda MX-5 - any of the new ones. you can not avoid drifting in this one, because it's so easy and fun to do in this car. again, I was able to destroy cars that had twice the power.

Toyota MR2'86 - killed NSX with ease on El Capitan. fast and nimble, and good drifter.

Lotus Elise/Esprit - these cars have no competition on tighter tracks, but beware of TVR's, these can not match their straight speeds.

Audi A3, RS6 - if you want nimble and fast car that loves to rev, A3 is the choice. and if you feel that you want to humiliate opponents with an estate, RS6 avant is your tool.

Nissan Skyline - nuff said. R32 and R34 are the best ones.

Toyota Supra - in its stock setup, it pushes 349bhp and plenty of torque, achieving 180 mph.. and tail happy in corners.

Corvette ZR-1 - corvette that has power and torque way up in the rev range? must have! handles pretty well too, as long as you know how to do weight transfers.

3000GT/GTO - it's beautiful, fast, nimble and loaded with luxury, and willing to swing that pretty butt in the corners. can't live without one.

Mitsu Lancer 1600 GSR - this old car is faster than one thinks.. the key is it's lightness.

Tommykaira ZZ-II - swap softer tyres and this beautiful, ferrari-looking car shows M5 his rearlights on any track. nimble and FAAAAASSSSTTT!!

NSX - any of these are beautifully balanced cars, despite old chassis design.. if MR2 can eat these for lunch, what does this eat? you got it: upper class cars.

these are the ones that come in mind. I hope you find it helpful.
 
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Wow, you really love your flame wars. (While I will agree that the BMW M3 and the Pontiac GTO have very neutral, well done chassis' and relatively high handling limits, the simple fact that you continue to try to argue against the handling merits of a shrink-wrapped, purpose built, 2 seat, less-than-3000 pound performance car to a sporty BMW that weighs nearly 600 pounds more and a modified family sedan that weighs about a half-ton more tells me that you are just spitting out random phrases just to get attention. It also tells me that you are very bad at driving the FD RX-7.)
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Flame War? here it is again, someone argues with something I posted, and when I disagree, they insinuate I'm a bad person, and that I love arguments.👍
Call it what you will, scream out at the thread starter for thinking these cars don't handle that well, and get fussy and :dunce: when I test them out, to see who's right
Drive 'em. Put up or shut up
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=73361
we can continue this there.
Or, if you have another place we can compare them, feel free to post it
EDIT: better yet, PM me so this thread's left be.
I won't be blamed for someone else's stubborness again
 
RUF BTR

The BTR is my favorite model from RUF and for a few very good reasons. Just like in every day experience, the idea of “one size fits all” is associated with low quality. For this reason a manufacture such as Honda will design a “FF” model (civic), a “FR” model (S2000), and a MR model (NSX). This is to ensure that there is something that fits everybody’s needs or desires. RUF, or rather Porsche, did a wonderful job in creating a car that really did fit all.
Through fine-tuning, the BTR can be made to behave in any way desired. Simply shifting the attitude of the car in ride height will give dramatic, but more importantly predictable results in handling. After leveling out the natural tendency to under steer, the BTR will behave as a perfectly balanced car. An added bonus is its compatibility with an aerodynamics package, which allows adjustment of its high-speed characteristics.
Above all, the Porsche 911 has performance in its blood, which is why it is such a popular choice in racing events such as the Grand Am championship. Although the price may be hard to swallow, you get what you pay for and this car is worth every dollar.


Ford GT

A true supercar at heart, the Ford GT has great potential and is well worth the investment. The power is there to begin with and does not require much tuning. It is nearly unmatched in handling, something that should be capitalized on. Inexperienced drivers may find it helpful to soften the suspension a bit. Its weak point (or perhaps my own) is in corner entry where I have found it to be unstable and unpredictable so take caution.


Just something I dug up and it might be no good. I am learning how to write reports, so opinions are welcome.

(If you have cash I would strongly recommend a Honda NSX)

After a quick test run I have decided that the Shelby Series One is, in my opinion, the best handling
non-racing car.
 
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Flame War? here it is again, someone argues with something I posted, and when I disagree, they insinuate I'm a bad person, and that I love arguments.
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It has nothing to do with th fact that you disagreed. It has to do with the fact that you worded your disagreement intentionally to piss someone off. And now you are trying to play up the innocent victim angle. Quite frankly, I don't need put up nor shut up, in my opinion you are wrong, and I don't need to prove my opinion to you (and it will probably be a useless excercise anyways). If you disagree with my opinion about the RX-7's handling when compared to the M3, fine. But don't intentionally try to flame-bait someone into anything with you, and then don't try to pull this innocent crap.
 
I'd have to agree that Honda 2000s stick like glue and are very easy to drive right out of the box. Even old ones. Same goes for RX-7s. The Shelby Series One handles like a dream without doing anything to it.
 
Pontiac Sunfire Concept is probably the best FF, but speed is a handicap.
and The Shelby Series one is another great choice I forgot in my first post too
 
The car I was really surprised to have good handling was the Nissan Silvia Q's Aero (S14) '93. Around Deep Forest Raceway, I got a time of 1'38.260 (all cars were on N3s) which defeated the more powerful Toyota Celica GT-Four RC (ST185) '91, the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution GSR '92, and the Honda Accord Euro-R '02.

Nissan Silvia Q's Aero (S14) '93 (154HP): 1'38.260
Toyota Celica GT-Four RC (ST185) '91 (232HP): 1'38.545
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution GSR '92 (246HP): 1'38.724
Honda Accord Euro-R '02 (217HP): 1'39.076

Of course this would be just due to the drivetrain, FR vs 4WD and FF.

As for the BMW M3, I would say that for its weight class 1500-1600kg, it's one of the best handling cars in the game.

Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C5) (379HP): 1'27.774
Honda NSX Type R '02 (291HP): 1'27.967
Proto Motors SPIRRA 4.6 V8' 04 (320HP): 1'28.741
BMW M3 '04 (339HP): 1'28'788
Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD) (293HP): 1'28.980
Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R '00 (385HP): 1'29.098
Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34) Vspec II Nur' 02 (337HP): 1'29.721
 
The best stock-handling cars I've found (and I've driven a LOT of them in stock form) are:

TVR Cerbera Speed Six
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C5)
Honda NSX (just about any one)

Then there are lots of other random cars that are really good. As for some of the ones others have listed, the M3s are really good, but I found them to understeer a lot, as does the GTO (even though I love the car). Elises, S2000s, and MR2s are a lot of fun to drive, but they take very deliberate inputs to really get the best out of them, because their tails like to step out, which shaves off precious tenths. Try the Speed Six and the 'Vette Z06, and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Either one can beat cars with hundreds more horsepower, and both are just a joy to hit the apexes with. The NSX, while they have high limits, can understeer out of corners, and don't have quite enough power to be exceedingly fast. Also, they always leave you with the feeling that you could've gone faster through the last corner, which gets annoying.
 

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