Any Hunters Here

[musclecarfan]

I was just wondering if any of you hunt ?I got a 10 pointer yesterday dressed out at 175 pounds Was a very nice deer.

 

[hanker]

No i dont hunt, but nice job on the 10 pointer

 

[boombexus]

Isn't hunting season over?

I don't hunt, but I know quite a few people that do.
I live in the mountains of Colorado so it's real easy hunting up here from what I hear.
I see deer and Elk almost daily. Matter of fact I've seen a 8 pointer the last two nights in a row hanging outside at work.

Something I just learned today as a matter of fact was the "point" system used to rate a deer or elk. You say that your deer was a 10 pointer, now is that 10 points total?
What I was told today it that on the East Coast, a 10 pointer would be all the antler points counted together. Where on the West Coast, the antler points are only counted on one side of the rack. So your 10 pointer would only be considered a 5 pointer out there.

 

[hanker]

Boombexus i always wondered about that point theory too, i just assumed he was talking about both antlers added together beasue i didn't think a 10 point (on 1 antler) could exist!!

 

[milefile]

I had some friends who hunted deer. One night I helped one of them transport one from his garage to his dad's. I took the front legs and he had the back. It's head swung and bounced against the inside of my knees. It cured me of my desire to hunt. But that may have changed over time. I don't know. I think I will have to at least try it.

 

[Ghost C]

I hunt small game. The beauty of small game is you don't need a license or a season, you just pop whatever you see (Birds, cats, dogs, raccoons - Squirrels are sort of sacred, so I won't kill them).

 

[hanker]

You kill small game just for the fun of it. It's not like you eat cat or dog meat, all you do it shoot it and then leave it there??? sounds very useless why dont you just go to a shooting rage.

 

[Ghost C]

I've never actually killed a dog before, and the cats I kill are for good reason. When there's an overpopulation of things that are causing more harm than good (Example: Japanese beetles), they are naturally wiped out by something else (Example: The Starlings that ate the Japanese beetles). When the overpopulation of stray cats coming from 3 different houses in my neighborhood began to dig out my trash, dig up my garden, sleep on and stink up things on my carport, and attack my cat, they were dealt with.

It's arguably more humane than sending them to sit in a tiny cage for the rest of their lives, but I also have no need to justify my actions to you, so I won't say that's why I did it.

 

[Codename 47]

Gun hunting is this weekend woo hoo! I am soo excited, I did alot of bowhunting this year to, it's been a great year.

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by Ghost C
I've never actually killed a dog before, and the cats I kill are for good reason. When there's an overpopulation of things that are causing more harm than good (Example: Japanese beetles), they are naturally wiped out by something else (Example: The Starlings that ate the Japanese beetles). When the overpopulation of stray cats coming from 3 different houses in my neighborhood began to dig out my trash, dig up my garden, sleep on and stink up things on my carport, and attack my cat, they were dealt with.

It's arguably more humane than sending them to sit in a tiny cage for the rest of their lives, but I also have no need to justify my actions to you, so I won't say that's why I did it.

Wouldn't it be easier to poison them?

 

[Timmotheus]

But then you're missing the whole "sport" aspect.

 

[Gil]

Originally posted by milefile
Wouldn't it be easier to poison them?

If his cat is indoor/outdoor he might poison it also.
Shooting is "pest specific".
I'm a very good shot, but never thought too much about hunting.
I'm also a city boy.
I know that beef comes from yellow styrofoam trays, pork from pink styrofoam trays, and fish from the blue ones.

I also know that there is a special way to "empty out" a deer so the meat doesn't become rancid. But the whole thing is just a bit more 'primal' than I'm ready for at this time. (Not that I don't feel primal at times, I just don't want to get up before daylight, and sit up in a tree (that I'm likely to fall out of) to put a .243 in Bambi's brainpan.
If there's some other color of styrofoam tray for Bambi parts...I'm in.

 

[Ghost C]

Originally posted by Timmotheus
But then you're missing the whole "sport" aspect.

There's no sport to it. When I go outside to take out small game, I'm just killing stuff for a lack of things to do (Except when those damn cats breed even more cats. Then it's because they're destroying my property) with a pellet rifle.

I'd suggest anyone who doesn't have one to get a pellet rifle with a muzzle velocity of around 500 FPS (Mine is a little over 1,000 but hey) for small pest control. I also like the hollowpoint pellets I have (Forgot the name of them, I think they come from Beeman), since they give me more of a chance on a one-shot kill (And you don't just kill, depending on the size of the pest, it usually explodes) than regular pointed pellets.

Avoid flat nose pellets like the plague. It once took me 7 shots to kill a black bird a year or so ago when my area had an overpopulation problem with them.

 

[Mike Rotch]

I went hunting with my friend at his farm in January for jackal. His dad has a game farm, so the jackal are considered pests. On the saturday morning we were out on the quad bike just riding around looking for some of the game they breed when we surprised a jackal. All he had on him was a 9mm parabellum, so he took a few cracks at it but it was rather pointless.

Then that arfternoon we went out on a "stake", to try and pick them off as they went back to their hole/lair/home. This time his dad came with his .22 hunting rifle (some Finish make) and my bud had an American .22 hunting rifle. No luck. So i was given a shot on the Finish rifle to get the feel of it. I couldnt hear anything but a faint "bzzzzz" in my ears for about 20secs after the shot.

I much prefered the quads.

 

[Ghost C]

A .22 left a buzz in your ears? I've never really had that problem shooting anything, and I've shot off .308's, .357's, .44's, and some other generally loud firearms.

What kind of .22 was it? Short, Long, Long Rifle, or Magnum? Also on the subject of .22's, has anyone had any experience with the .22 LR birdshot loads? I was thinking about buying a box whenever I get a box of the Aguila 60gr Subsonic rounds. Twice as much penetration as Federal 9mm +P, with half the bullet weight and half the muzzle velocity, and waaaay less than half the cost.

 

[Mike Rotch]

It was a long rifle (high velocity) and they had their own high velocity bullets.

Was the first time i let off a rifle, so maybe it just seemed loud. Bear in mind i didnt have ear muffs on. I shot the 9mm later in the weekend with ear muffs, and they made a big diff.

 

[Ghost C]

I've never shot with plugs or muffs, most of the shooting I've done has been on private property against beer cans and bottles, not really any time on ranges. .22 rifles like the Marlin Model 60 or 70 (I've got a 60 - 16 shots as fast as you can pull the trigger, extremely reliable, and very easy to maintain) are handy to have around, and they both cost less than $100 to buy. Most likely if you live outside the city you can go out and shoot in your back yard like I do without the neighbors caring, all you have to do is buy lightweight, subsonic ammunition, and you've got a really fun toy to plink with.

 

[Mike Rotch]

I dont know much about guns and stuff, but the Finnish jobbie the dad had and that I shot with cost R22000 which equates to about $3500. Hence it was a "privilage" to get a crack at it with that gun.

 

[Ghost C]

It was one of those overstylized, form over function, pretty boy rich kid's rifles, then? No offense meant to you, but I hate it when the topic of guns comes up with me around and people talk about how much their gun costed and how pretty it is.

Anyway, even if you don't know much about guns, you should pick up one of the Marlins I mentioned if you're interested in them (Guns, that is), because they're fun to have and shoot, and I'm sure with the right load you can take out a deer with one, if you like hunting deer.

 

[Mike Rotch]

Nah, no offence. to me a gun is a gun is a gun. Also it wasnt overstyled with ebony handles or anything. Was just a usual brown stock and polished, matte finished sliver barrel. I think the dad said it was Finish army spec.

 

[ALPHA]

I'm a Hunter, as in my last name . Seriously.

 

[Gil]

Originally posted by Mike Rotch
Nah, no offence. to me a gun is a gun is a gun. Also it wasnt overstyled with ebony handles or anything. Was just a usual brown stock and polished, matte finished sliver barrel. I think the dad said it was Finish army spec.

Sounds like a Tikka.
Was it a .22 or a .222? Same basic calliber, but a huge difference in cartridges.
The .222 is a rather large bottleneck cartrigde, while the .22 is just a dinky li'l thing.

 

[Red Eye Racer]

I always go up north for opening weekend of rifle season (last weekend),.. saw one doe opening morning but that was it.

The biggest misconception people get from hunting is when they talk to people like GHOST C who will blast anything that moves and has four legs.

Poachers and trophy hunters give the honest hunter, who just wants cheap meat and less car-deer accidents, a bad name.

 

[Ghost C]

Originally posted by Red Eye Racer
The biggest misconception people get from hunting is when they talk to people like GHOST C who will blast anything that moves and has four legs.

Poachers and trophy hunters give the honest hunter, who just wants cheap meat and less car-deer accidents, a bad name.

The last time I checked, birds had two legs. What I do is perfectly legal, and it keeps other animals fed (I know this as fact - I put a dead bird somewhere and see 15 of the neighborhood cats fighting over it ten minutes later), and the world has no shortage of black birds and crows. I don't give anyone a bad name, because I don't go anywhere to shoot except in my backyard, and 99% of the time, I use a rifle that makes no noise.

It seems you've had some personal vendetta against me since I proved every part of your argument wrong back on the guns thread. I suggest you drop this vendetta, as it will just end up bad for you, such as the guns thread.

 

[Red Eye Racer]

Originally posted by Ghost C
I don't give anyone a bad name, because I don't go anywhere to shoot except in my backyard, and 99% of the time, I use a rifle that makes no noise.

You do this in a populated, urban area,... your a genius.

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by Ghost C
The last time I checked, birds had two legs. What I do is perfectly legal, and it keeps other animals fed (I know this as fact - I put a dead bird somewhere and see 15 of the neighborhood cats fighting over it ten minutes later

And then you kill them.

 

[Ghost C]

Originally posted by Red Eye Racer
You do this in a poulated, urban area,... your a genius.

No, I do this in an unpopulated, suburban area, where there's nothing behind my house except forest, owned by a guy who's known me for 13 years, and doesn't care if I screw around on his property, or shoot towards it.

I'm having trouble here - Were you born this stupid, or did you have to work really hard at it?

I'm done here, I won't hijack a decent thread.

[Edit: No, milefile, I don't kill all of them. There's different people in the neighborhood with different cats. The people next door's cats are fairly nice, don't dig in my trash, all that happy stuff, and the bastard doesn't feed them, so I take them some leftover food from time to time, and let them eat the dead birds. It's the people up the street who have the annoying ass cats.]

 

[musclecarfan]

As for the point system here in indiana its a total of all points. shotgun season is in for another couple weeks here. I use a 12 gauge pump with remington sabot slugs they are copper plated hollow points 3 inch magnum rounds.I got him at 50 yards one shot through the lungs he moved about 2 feet then fell down and that was it. And as for just shooting stuff for the hell of it that is real stupid and I would only ever shoot an animal that i was going to use as a food source or that was trying to attack one of my animals or family members ther are easier way to get rid of pests than killing them.My buddy got a 16 pointer that was almost 300 pounds dressed it was huge.

 

[Ghost C]

Your posts are near impossible to read. You might try to use more periods, comas, etc in the future.

There is no better way to get rid of pests. If you think there is, name it.

 

[Red Eye Racer]

Originally posted by Ghost C
Your posts are near impossible to read. You might try to use more periods, comas, etc in the future.

There is no better way to get rid of pests. If you think there is, name it.

Poisoning their food might be a thought,.... but I know you dont score too many points in the "thought" catagory, so, I wont hold it against ya.