Are These Illegal?

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Hey everyone.

I was wondering whether the following were illegal or not...

Travelling to Antarctica

I'm thinking of going to Antarctica. Travelling to the bottom of the world would be harsh and dangerous. Yet, I really want to go there, se what Robert Falcon Scott and Roald Amundsen went through, an isolated portion of the Earth where no "normal" human has ever gone before. Obviously, I'll be fully-prepared and won't go to the centre of the continent, where winds can reach ultra-high speeds. I'd fancy exploring the outermost rim for a few hours before returning back to New Zealand. Now, New Zealand owns a few islands off the coast of Antarctica. Is is legal for me to visit these, just like the way it is legal for me to travel from one area of my country to another?

Keeping a pet fox

Is it legal to own a pet fox? Many of these canids are shot in farms and countrysides. Most are considered "pests" and definitely not endangered. I've heard that they are small loyal animals, albiet a bit wild-tempered and "crazy", digging holes and constantly running around all day long. A suitable environment for a pet fox would be a large house, with wide open outdoor spaces. Apparantly they're legal to keep and have no troubles with the authorities, with even some famous figuires owning one and some being sold at various newspapers. Sure, you may be thinking that they should live in their natural habitat. But most foxes feed by raiding food scraps, killing farm animals, and spreading diseases. They are therefore, seen as "pests" and not to mention that foxhunting is a major sport. Is it legal to own a pet fox, preferably raised since early childhood?

Thanks, I am looking forward to seeing your replies.
 
I wouldn't reccommend doing either of them, but yeah, they're legal i think. As long as the fox is kept in control, that should be alright. I'm not 100% sure though, so better confirm it with someone else.
 
You'll need clearance from whichever country owns the territory on the continental mass of Antarctica you plan to visit. Other than that, fill your boots.

As for the foxes, ask your MP.
 
I know that you need a special permit to visit the Australian Antarctic Territory if you are an Australian citizen, due to the fact that it is such a delicate ecosystem, and very little is known about the area.
 
I would not recommend attempting to train any wild animal unless not doing so would end up in the animal's death. I wouldn't even think about attempting to train an adult wild animal, as it is extremely unlikely to stick around if you give it half a chance to escape, so you would have to chain it up or lock it away until such time as you've subdued its natural wild instincts.

Now think of the effects of unlawful long-term imprisonment on human beings (such as happens in the middle east or Cuba), and then transfer it to a wild animal and the psychological effect of subjugating it to your will don't really bear thinking about.

I'm not a big fan of foxes (I've seen what they like to do in a chicken coop), but it's going to have a much better life in the wild than it would have chained up at your place so you can have a "cool" pet. And I wouldn't take on any pet if I couldn't give it a good life.

Get a dog, there are plenty of 'cool' dogs out there. One of my friends has a Husky cross that looks excellent, like a wolf. But find out about what that dog's instincts make it want to do, and give it the kind of life it would naturally enjoy.
 
You'd probably never subdue a fully grown foxes instincs, a fox cub could be trained though but you'll need to ask you local MP what the laws are on that.
 
We have about six foxes that come to our house everyday for handouts (here are a few pictures). Every day I see how much they run around and play and enjoy their freedom, and I can’t think of a worse fate for them than to keep them in any kind of enclosed space, even a huge one. Even ten acres wouldn’t be enough at all.

Please consider a dog instead – they enjoy human company and aren’t bothered by their lack of freedom. Keeping a fox in an enclosed space would be nothing short of torture for it.
 
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We have about six foxes that come to our house everyday for handouts (here are a few pictures). Every day I see how much they run around and play and enjoy their freedom, and I can’t think of a worse fate for them than to keep them in any kind of enclosed space, even a huge one. Even ten acres wouldn’t be enough at all.

Please consider a dog instead – they enjoy human company and aren’t bothered by their lack of freedom. Keeping a fox in an enclosed space would be nothing short of torture for it.
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Sage I know this is totally off topic, but I have to say what an amazing place to have your house. Now thats a view I could wake up to everyday.

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Heh, thanks guys. :D

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Why are those foxes so small?
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Well, they’re about the same size as a smallish bobcat. They look a lot smaller just because they’re very lean.
 
Those were pretty cool pics Sage 👍

Yes, wild animals are though to train and even if you think you have them under your control, they can turn out on you...and it's normal because they are wild animals and they just follow their instincts. I think you should leave them in their current habitat.

ROAD_DOGG33J
Why are those foxes so small? They don't look like they could eat a duck.
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Actually I think they eat rabbits, bunnies, and other animals of the same type. They also eat fruits.


And Sage: Why don't you try this from your house ;)...Ive done it before 👍

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Ciao!
 
Steve Corwin has a pet fox. The thing is nuts, from what I've seen. It was biting him a little when he picked it up on his show. :/
 
I looked on wikipedia, and what I was thinking about was a red fox, which has a little longer, smoother fur. It also said they are considered a pest to poultry farmers.

Also, Soviet Russia domesticated the silver fox, but due to the lack of funding the number of tamed foxes dropped from 700 in 1997 to 100 in 1998.
 

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