Are we capable of moving to a different planet?
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Originally posted by Sage
Well, I honestly can't think of something to contribute to the thread at the moment, but jeezes christ Famine, you're a walking encyclopedia!👍 I've certainly learned a lot just from reading this thread.
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Btw f1...
That guy next to that other guy laughing looks like my freshman history teacher...
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Yeah, as odd as it may seem...
He used to sound like a drunk. Some people say he got into a motorcycle accident...I dont beleive it one bit.
He used to sound like a drunk. Some people say he got into a motorcycle accident...I dont beleive it one bit.
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That is the point i was gonna bring up. Jupiter has massive radiation belts around it, making habitation of any of the moon impossible (unless we walk around in lead suits). Also as the moons are so far from the sun, their temps are naturally too low for habitation.
The only bet worth considering would be mars, but that isnt exactly far from the sun - to avoid frizzle sizzle in 3 millions yrs or whenever the sun goes to supernova.
either way, unless we could build stable, life sustaining space craft of huge proportions, human kind will end when the sun dies. As Steven Hawkings suggested. We may only exist by chance. Our earth was the correct distance from the sun to sustain life by chance. chance must eventually run out. Unless we can learn to travel at light speed, which of course, is impossible.
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yeah but bending space time we can travel at slow speeds whilst covering vast distances. hence the requirement for extensive research into warp.
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I think we'll eventually move to a different planet. It would probably be either on mars or europa, one of jupiter's moons. I saw this program and it said that found water on Europa.
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I may be off the mark here, but to bend space-time, a vast gravitational force is needed. EG Stars light 'bend' around the sun. To bend space time enough to enable travel across vast distances would mean this vast gravitational force would need to be harnessed and controlled. Last time i checked there werent many bodies in the universe that had enough gravity to bend light and that could fit into a laboratory without bending that too.
PS a while back somce scientist in Aus i think "transported" photons ala Star Trek. Maybe that is the way, altho it would be a bit dodge, i mean i a feather finds its way into the transport chamber at the wrong time, its freak time.
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Any object with a non-zero rest mass will warp space-time - if it has mass, it has a gravitational force associated to it. If it has a gravitational force, it affects the curvature of space-time - but you are right in that only the bigger things make a noticeable effect.
Oddly, the "Star Trek" warp drive theory is now held as being the closest to the mark, in terms of possibility. A matter/anti-matter reaction to produce sufficient energy to create a warp field, so that space-time is reordered around the craft, with less in front than behind... That would mean that although the ship clearly moves in space-time, it's actually totally stationary and space-time is moving around it. That's the point where I give up and go for a lie down. Or possibly sideways.
You are also correct that a team of Australian scientists succeeded in teleporting a single photon approximately 1 metre across the laboratory. Unfortunately, when you get on to more complex things - like teleporting a single atom - you're boned, due to the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, which states that it is impossible to know the location AND speed at the same time of any particle with a non-zero rest mass. Photons have no rest mass, so it is relatively easy (relative to teleporting an atom, that is... It's still a phenomenal acheivement).
Oddly, the "Star Trek" warp drive theory is now held as being the closest to the mark, in terms of possibility. A matter/anti-matter reaction to produce sufficient energy to create a warp field, so that space-time is reordered around the craft, with less in front than behind... That would mean that although the ship clearly moves in space-time, it's actually totally stationary and space-time is moving around it. That's the point where I give up and go for a lie down. Or possibly sideways.
You are also correct that a team of Australian scientists succeeded in teleporting a single photon approximately 1 metre across the laboratory. Unfortunately, when you get on to more complex things - like teleporting a single atom - you're boned, due to the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, which states that it is impossible to know the location AND speed at the same time of any particle with a non-zero rest mass. Photons have no rest mass, so it is relatively easy (relative to teleporting an atom, that is... It's still a phenomenal acheivement).
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Here's some food for thought:
If an asteroid was going to hit Earth, and we somehow managed to find somewhere else to live, would you really leave Earth to go to some other planet or moon and start all over from scratch?
I'm not so sure that I wouldn't just stay here, and enjoy what time was left before the inevitable...
If an asteroid was going to hit Earth, and we somehow managed to find somewhere else to live, would you really leave Earth to go to some other planet or moon and start all over from scratch?
I'm not so sure that I wouldn't just stay here, and enjoy what time was left before the inevitable...
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Also when it comes to transporting, i dont think there will ever be a database large enough to store all the data necessary to re-compile a human after transporting.
Yea, i know Heisenberg principle - but my head starts to hurt when them scientists start yakking on about the different spins of particles and how something can spin 2 times and still not show the same side
Dunno bout this warp drive stuff. If a 'warp drive' can create a gravitational field large enough to bend space-time around it, surely it will bend its users too?
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ur putting ideas into my head dood... they wouldn't be able/allowed to take any cars to their next planets right?
bwahahahaha. though id be unsure of staying behind if there were no cops / armies around. total chaos wouldn't be a great thing to stick around for 
