We all get you don't like the game but don't expect it to be a motorsport free roam. 
Mmk?
I'm sure most of us here scratched our heads when we saw the "FIII logo" for the first time in FM4. I guess they want us to believe it was supposed to be "FM." Someone should tell them that "Forza Horizon" doesn't shorten to "FM," or "FIII," no matter what color you make it.
"hey we're ok with the Dev's laziness, just keep taking our money, we like it, please kick us in the butt too while you're at it, we like that too"
Harh harh haarhhh... this had me and my buddies rolling up and down the floor in no time!!
As for the FM franchise..well, sales and all numbers aside.. they have managed to make significant improvements after each iteration. Though it may be worth noting that while the jump from FM2 to 3 was quite an achievement, the FM3 to FM4 wasn't as big. A lot of reviewers called it Forza 3.5. It uses the FIII logo for a good reason I'm sure! Voting with our wallets...rewarding failures... yeah, some true say right there. Why do devs have to leave out the good stuff from the previous games in order to add the new and improved stuff? FM is a good example. Just to keep us hanging on I suppose, until they come up with something truly innovative. FM4 certainly didn't blow me away like FM3 did. Well, except for the changes/improvements to the physics and sounds...THAT did grab me by the kahunas!
Next gen... please grace us with your presence already!
Exactly. Which is why I did not buy GT5. When I heard only 200 of the 1000 cars were premium I decided not to buy it. It was later given to me as a christmas gift. The game was a disaster at launch. I rented it and my gosh dont get me going. 80% of the cars were standard which means no interior view, cant take these cars to photo travel, cant change wheels and so many more problems. Years later and a lot of updates later, its actually a good game. BUT thats the problem, it launched terrible. They should have waited another couple years then released the game. But even with that said, the standards are still standards in GT5. Which imo still means the game is only 20% complete because only 200 out of 1000 cars are premium. There are a few more now but the mass majority are PSP ported standard cars.
Exactly. Which is why I did not buy GT5. When I heard only 200 of the 1000 cars were premium I decided not to buy it. It was later given to me as a christmas gift. The game was a disaster at launch. I rented it and my gosh dont get me going. 80% of the cars were standard which means no interior view, cant take these cars to photo travel, cant change wheels and so many more problems. Years later and a lot of updates later, its actually a good game. BUT thats the problem, it launched terrible. They should have waited another couple years then released the game. But even with that said, the standards are still standards in GT5. Which imo still means the game is only 20% complete because only 200 out of 1000 cars are premium. There are a few more now but the mass majority are PSP ported standard cars.
Forza Horizon is a good game but not one I could justify supporting at the $60.00 launch price. I also wouldnt say its the best Forza. Far too many cons outwight the pros for this game. Map is way too small to start with along with no tuning setups. Its a fun beta for the open world introduction for Forza. But this is only a test.
Horizon 2 I think will be an amazing game now that this beta test is out of the way. The season pass was also very insulting for Horizon. I feel bad for the people that supported that $50.00 season pass. Ouch. The less people that support that, the more likely the next season pass wont be priced so high. As DD said, if you want to show how you do or do not support a product, you show that with your wallet. You cant buy every single dlc or season pass that comes out and still expect something to change. If you want something to change, keep your wallet closed.
I had fun with the Horizon rental and will buy this when the price drops to around $20-$25. Horizon 2 I expect to be an amazing game and hopefully will finally have weather effects too.
Are you actually comparing Horizon's map to other maps, or are you making an assumption based on that erroneously high "200 square mile" measurement of Paradise City? In reality Burnout Paradise was, at most, half the size of Horizon. You're free to think the map is too small, but the least you can do is ground that point on the basis of fact.
Hey man, sorry for having fun with a transparently hyperbolic joke, but I wouldn't say it if there wasn't a point behind it. I would bet the majority here would all agree that TDU has jagged roads that toss your car around as you roll over polygon edges. I don't remember how well TDU2 improved upon that, but in the first game it was awful. You could hardly track a straight line down some of the highways. Exciting, but pretty ridiculous.
You mean like complaining about the shortened car list, altered physics, and lack of tuning, when Horizon has 100+ more cars than most other games of its type, the most realistic physics of any open road racer, and a robust parts/customization system that puts the likes of Hot Pursuit '10 or Most Wanted '12 to shame?
With this logic you can compare any game to another based on replay value. Yet comparing Halo and a racing game doesn't make much sense. Thats why when it comes to Horizon Vs. FM4 it's down to personal preference like Halo vs a racing game. It's really hard to argue one is better than the other. Not trying to be a jerk.
Wait, you're talking about watching actual replays in-game? I thought you were speaking of replay value, can't say I spend much time watching replays
Nah, I was six years old when Star Fox was released. I remember.
