Are you racist against some car makes?

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You know whats funny ,everyone putting down american cars .saying they are cheaper made . but every so called american has probably 75 % of imported parts on it from japan ,china, mexico ect...

The only real thing american about our cars now are the names.
but i like most cars in general
 
Cars don't have "race/ethnicity"
My bias is towards cars with exceptional quality.
I happen to like Fords, Mazda, Nissan, BMW, Chevrolet.
These cars seem to offer good quality.
You'll note the absence of Toyota and Honda from my little list above. Not because they aren't reliable. I think that they are way too expensive.
I refuse to drive a KIA. In my youth that meant "Killed in Action" Not too keen on that at all.
 
I`m open to other
makes such as Subaru and toyota, but apart from that I coulden`t see my self owning anything other then a Nissan
 
I'd say American car manafacturers are hated most because of their environmental policies.

But thats a conception thats afflicting most American industries and the lines have become so blurred I can't make out the truth.
 
Originally posted by Gil
I refuse to drive a KIA. In my youth that meant "Killed in Action" Not too keen on that at all.
Can anyone tell me why it took me about 3 or 4 years to just realise that now???

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I think my brain is slowly dissolving :dunce:
 
Originally posted by Rossell
I'd say American car manafacturers are hated most because of their environmental policies.

But thats a conception thats afflicting most American industries and the lines have become so blurred I can't make out the truth.

I dont see why. America has stricter polution regulations than japan does, so american cars have to meet our standards, while there are quite a few japanese cars that dont.
 
Originally posted by Rossell
Exactly. But because of their history of muscles cars, this is where the assumption is made.

But then you factor in the CO/HC emissions at idle against the fuel economy...

Many cars fall foul of the emissions at idle in California, but turn in a fuel economy 3-4 times better than your Explorer/Excursions/H2s/Blazers which are still allowed. The original Elise isn't allowed, but returns 35mpg combined...

The fuel economy figure is still what people look at in relation to "environmental policies", and it's still true that many "American" cars for the US market are very far behind compared to other markets.
 
Lack of torque where?

Or do you just mean peak torque?

OR... are you being "carist" against Honda? :D
 
Originally posted by Quattro
How can you hate Honda?? Old CRX's, Prelude's, Integra's, NSX!, S2000,... !!
I never said I hate Hondas and Toyotas.
However, you won't see my poor, brown, furry *** in one unless I get one heck of a deal.
There's an '89 Prelude down my street for sale. The guy wants $3,100 for it. That's three thousand dollars for a 15 year old car.:eek:
I saw an '01 Accord coupe last year with an asking price of $20k plus.
Now Toyotas aren't as bad, but you won't get a deal on anything but a Corolla, without some serious shopping around.

I can go right up to my local Ford dealer, and cull a year old Mustang from the herd for under $20K Even a V-8 model. I can pick up 3 ZX-2 Escorts, and get a few fancy meals for $20k.

Yeah, they aren't as cool looking as a late model Celica, or Prelude. But, as I've never been stranded far from home in a Ford, but have in GM, Dodge, Nissan, and VW, I'll say I wouldn't mind owning one, but I don't leave home without my cell phone.
 
Originally posted by Gil

There's an '89 Prelude down my street for sale. The guy wants $3,100 for it. That's three thousand dollars for a 15 year old car.:eek:
I saw an '01 Accord coupe last year with an asking price of $20k plus.


Cool. How about new cars? I see nothing wrong with the price Honda and Toyota are charging for a single one of their new cars except maybe the Sequoia and Tacoma.
 
Reading through this I see a lot of hypocrites. I'm biased towards American made autos, yes. But on the same note I'd like to hear people say they are biased towards Japanese cars. When I tell someone I think most Hondas are crap, they turn around and tell me that American cars are crap. That doesn't make you any better, nor any more respectable. I see no problem with American cars and my Blazer is the best auto I've owned.
 
I know a few people with Fords and they run great. Except for my brother's friend with his Ford Escort. He neutral drops it all the time and went through about 6 transmissions under warranty... Took the dealer a while to figure out that it was the driver's fault. lol...Also, I mentioned before, Probes and Contour SVT's are great cars. Also, I love Honda Preludes. It's not that bad of a price for a Honda, it's quick, and extremely reliable (I just don't like that its a 4 cylinder) But you can find them for about 10K
 
Originally posted by Fenrir51
The lack of torque maybe?

Here it is again. I'm begining to see a pattern develop.

The subject of Hondas get brought up. Someone bashes Honda by saying their engines make no torque. While this is technically true at the crank, many people tend to use this sort of thinking to discredit even Honda's horsepower cars, like the S2000 and NSX.

So I step in and ask "what do gears do?"

No response.

C'mon, Fenrir. Tell us what gears do.


///M-Spec
 
Originally posted by Famine
Lack of torque where?

Or do you just mean peak torque?

OR... are you being "carist" against Honda? :D

Never did get a reply to that either.
 
i'm biased towards american cars, hey with me living here i gotta root for the home team, but the europeans and japanese make some damn awesome cars too.
 
Originally posted by Motorer1
i'm racist against Scions. HEY LETS MAKE UNDERPOWERED CARS FOR KIDS. fuc that man i wanna go fast
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Don't do any of that again.
 
my bad, sorry allow me to rephrase:

it seems inexplicably obsolent for Toyota to brand teenagers with underpowered wagons that wouldn't even race a minivan. Better?
 
i dont really like new american cars, i liked the old muscle cars though cuz they were the best, the only new american cars i like is the viper and the mustang, all other car makers back in the fifties n sixties sucked lol, n i dont really like fiat or citroen cuz all of their cars ive seen are ugly, but i love all Japanese companies especially toyota, they make the best quality cars and will soon beat out GM for the top spot

and i hate what GM did with the new GTO, i think they were hoping that no one would notice that its a holden, they really disapointed me cuz the old GTO was a great car and it started the whole muscle car thing.
 
You do realize the GTO is a Holden brought to America. And the only reason they did that was because GM was strapped for time.There will be a redesign soon from what I've read
 
I personally do not like american cars. I know I am not the only one, and I also know that there are others out here who hate the cars I like as well. Something I notice is that people tend to hate the owners of cars, and not just the manufacturers.

Thats lame... you cannot knock someone for liking their own car. Everyone is different in that they have their own personal preferences. Without a diverse selection of car makes and models, the world would suck. Think about seeing the same ****ing car drive by all day everyday. Anyways, to get to my beef...

I dont like american cars because...

1) They require HUGE V8s or V10s to get a little bit of horsepower; kinda funny when that 1.6l B16 passes you...

2) I dont like the design... but thats my opinion... however, their designs are much nicer than a few years ago.

3) Gas Mileage... or lack there-of... you cant tell me a 5-8 litre car gets good mileage... NO IT DOESNT! Now look at the opposite side of the spectrum, (Ill pick on the B16 yet again) a 1.6l engine redlining probably gets better mileage than any V10 viper engine at an idle.

4) Finally, I like cars that can revv... Like a STOCK S2000 that can push 9 grand out of the box. And imagine... 240bhp coming from a 2.2L powerplant... you cannot knock honda for that piece of technology.

*I may be wrong.. but this is only IMO...

This will never end will it?? :banghead:
 

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