ATAQ - a time trial experiment

[Gorefast]

Hi guys, i'm back! 🥳

At first, congratulations to @rheinaoi for blitzing everything (again )!

I've done some first tests in Autopolis. Was it realy me who suggest this track?
I know i have no idea how to get fast thru turn 1. Why on earth did i made this suggestion?!?!? 😭

I followed rheinaois idea of putting the 911 turbo engine into the GT3 RS. With this monster i'm sitting at 1:09,3.
Very, very maybe i could do a 1:08. But i can't see me doing a 1:07 or better as rheinaoi predicted.

Welcome back!

If you sit at low 09 and have trouble with the first corner you must do something right at the rest of that lap. 💪

🥳 Here comes a line of excitement:
I managed to get into 09, too!!! If Porsche, then Cayman for me and so I tried and will try again... 😙

 

[rheinaoi]

Surprisingly, my life over the last several days has managed levels of Super Suckiness even greater than my entry (and middle corner and exit...) for Turn 1.

I brought out the first half of Audi Sisters V10 Dance Team - The Gallardo - 1:08.888. The replay is up with the usual tags #ataq, #ataq4wd, #rheinaoi

I did not get my optimal of 1:08.5 because 8.888 looks more interesting. I tell that to myself to preserve my ego.

Maaaaaaaaaybe I can do a 1:08.3. And maybe the R8 can manage 1-2 tenths better than that. Though, that will require an order of magnitude less Super Sucking at Turn 1.

I want to get the Civic FL5 into the 1:10s. The Elantra is great, but 1 second slower in my hands. I think my tuning and driving are holding it back. I need to reflect and redo my FWD tunes. Because of some... struggles... in a recent online race, I'm not thinking about RWD and will be ignoring its existence for the rest of the week

Welcome back @911RSR !
Getting turn 1 right will be 2-3 tenths already. I think your precision / smoothness will help you find a bunch more time through the rest of the flowing corners (lots of coasting). Then once you see the exit of the final corner, the 992's grip + Nuclear Turbo Torque + DRS will give you an exit launch and run down the main straight that would make the Audi Sisters blush. Easier said than done, but definitely doable with your driving.

 

[911RSR]

Welcome back @911RSR !
Getting turn 1 right will be 2-3 tenths already. I think your precision / smoothness will help you find a bunch more time through the rest of the flowing corners (lots of coasting). Then once you see the exit of the final corner, the 992's grip + Nuclear Turbo Torque + DRS will give you an exit launch and run down the main straight that would make the Audi Sisters blush. Easier said than done, but definitely doable with your driving.

Thanks for your hommage! But please no more pressure like this! 🤣
Hope you're already feeling better and 'driveable'!

With the RSturbo Monster i had an optimal of 1:08,9. I'd be happy to reach that, but i realy can't say how much more i can push it here.

If i'll find the time, maybe i'll give your Lambo a chance to see how it feels in my old hands.

 

[rheinaoi]

I did more testing again, and forgot to talk about it. Again.

First, the new personal bests:

RWD Class

Pagani Huayra
1:09.014
535hp / 3086lbs [1399kg]
Muscular Grace

Once again the Huayra proves that it is the superior platform compared to the Corvette C8 [because the C8 has not posted a laptime]. The tune is the same as last round.

The Huayra's stability that was once detrimental to its overall time now becomes its advantage - it' resists scrubbing off too much speed entering the flowing sections. Optimal is 1:08.9x. So close to 1:08s, it hurts 🫠

4WD Class

Audi R8 V10
1:08.071
499hp / 2881lbs [1306kg]
Delicious Death by Rotation

I decreased the power to 499hp to make the R8 V10 less controversal. It took that personally. The stars aligned for the one lap where I stomped through the virtual pedal box at all the correct times, while also not dying when I released the throttle.

All the desperation for rotation in the last round culminated in my R8 entering that left hand corner that goes on forever and rotating into the abyss.

So close to 1:07s, it hurts 🫠 🫠

🫠Honorable Mentions + My Skill Issues🫠

Ruf CTR3
1:09.850
485hp / 2800lbs [1270kg]
You’re better than this...

The specs say one thing. The laptimes say another. Great torque. High downforce. Neutral handling. But why is it nowhere near the Huayra?!!

Dodge Viper GTS '13
1:09.530
504hp / 2934lbs [1330kg]
8 liters; yet gutless

When detuned from ~1000hp, the Viper's torque figure is incredibly... average. The engine feels asleep. That's a shame because the platform is wonderfully balanced with its mid-engine weight balance and strong aero.

Ford GT "06
1:09.581
502hp / 2934lbs [1330kg]
Slow Joy

Engaging driving experience. Neutral with an edge. Mega rear weight bias lobbed onto old suspension settings intended to create understeer -- because two extremes canceling each other out equals balance in my [unbalanced] mind.

Loudest, angriest engine note that does not sound like a V8 from inside the car.
Clio V6 – Engine Swap
1:11.330
405hp / 2343lbs [1062kg]
Struggles of Light Car Life

Great rotation, mountains of torque. Twitchy because of the short wheelbase. Somehow slower than the FL5. I have prepped a heavier, more powerful variant.

Radical SR3 - Engine Swap
1:11.914
384hp / 2216lbs [1005kg]
Struggles of Light Car Life: Part II

In real life, this hill climb prototype that wears number plates should cruise to the top of the leaderboard... But the Radical struggles so hard against the monsters and mutants that we have created, that it loses to the Almighty FL5.

The Radical needs that minimum 486-505hp horsepower badly, but the platform does not like the extra weight. Admittedly, mine had too much weight in the rear, hurting stability.

VW Golf VII - Engine Swap
1:12.585
463hp / 2831lbs [1284kg]
Super competent

It handles the power surprisingly well, but lacks downforce and understeers a lot off throttle in the high speed corners. I was too lazy to calculate power / weight, so this one may be underpowered

Citroen BX - Audi Swap
1:13.333
405hp / 2343lbs [1062kg]
Love can be slow and crazy

Overpowered, traction issues, but still a great handling platform. I do not care how slow it is.

Toyota MR2 – Engine Swap
1:10.294
499hp / 2881lbs [1306kg]
Balanced and competent

The engine is glorious, and the platform takes the power and weight well. It will give you bonkers top speeds despite having the five speed gearbox. Some oversteer on corner exit. And the curbs grab the front wheels too hard. I wish I knew how to find more time in this car.

As always, if you're morbidly curious about any of the tunes, feel free to ask.

 

[Gorefast]

I did more testing again, and forgot to talk about it. Again.

First, the new personal bests:

RWD Class

Pagani Huayra
1:09.014
535hp / 3086lbs [1399kg]
Muscular Grace

Once again the Huayra proves that it is the superior platform compared to the Corvette C8 [because the C8 has not posted a laptime]. The tune is the same as last round.

The Huayra's stability that was once detrimental to its overall time now becomes its advantage - it' resists scrubbing off too much speed entering the flowing sections. Optimal is 1:08.9x. So close to 1:08s, it hurts 🫠

4WD Class

Audi R8 V10
1:08.071
499hp / 2881lbs [1306kg]
Delicious Death by Rotation

I decreased the power to 499hp to make the R8 V10 less controversal. It took that personally. The stars aligned for the one lap where I stomped through the virtual pedal box at all the correct times, while also not dying when I released the throttle.

All the desperation for rotation in the last round culminated in my R8 entering that left hand corner that goes on forever and rotating into the abyss.

So close to 1:07s, it hurts 🫠 🫠

🫠Honorable Mentions + My Skill Issues🫠

Ruf CTR3
1:09.850
485hp / 2800lbs [1270kg]
You’re better than this...

The specs say one thing. The laptimes say another. Great torque. High downforce. Neutral handling. But why is it nowhere near the Huayra?!!

Dodge Viper GTS '13
1:09.530
504hp / 2934lbs [1330kg]
8 liters; yet gutless

When detuned from ~1000hp, the Viper's torque figure is incredibly... average. The engine feels asleep. That's a shame because the platform is wonderfully balanced with its mid-engine weight balance and strong aero.

Ford GT "06
1:09.581
502hp / 2934lbs [1330kg]
Slow Joy

Engaging driving experience. Neutral with an edge. Mega rear weight bias lobbed onto old suspension settings intended to create understeer -- because two extremes canceling each other out equals balance in my [unbalanced] mind.

Loudest, angriest engine note that does not sound like a V8 from inside the car.
Clio V6 – Engine Swap
1:11.330
405hp / 2343lbs [1062kg]
Struggles of Light Car Life

Great rotation, mountains of torque. Twitchy because of the short wheelbase. Somehow slower than the FL5. I have prepped a heavier, more powerful variant.

Radical SR3 - Engine Swap
1:11.914
384hp / 2216lbs [1005kg]
Struggles of Light Car Life: Part II

In real life, this hill climb prototype that wears number plates should cruise to the top of the leaderboard... But the Radical struggles so hard against the monsters and mutants that we have created, that it loses to the Almighty FL5.

The Radical needs that minimum 486-505hp horsepower badly, but the platform does not like the extra weight. Admittedly, mine had too much weight in the rear, hurting stability.

VW Golf VII - Engine Swap
1:12.585
463hp / 2831lbs [1284kg]
Super competent

It handles the power surprisingly well, but lacks downforce and understeers a lot off throttle in the high speed corners. I was too lazy to calculate power / weight, so this one may be underpowered

Citroen BX - Audi Swap
1:13.333
405hp / 2343lbs [1062kg]
Love can be slow and crazy

Overpowered, traction issues, but still a great handling platform. I do not care how slow it is.

Toyota MR2 – Engine Swap
1:10.294
499hp / 2881lbs [1306kg]
Balanced and competent

The engine is glorious, and the platform takes the power and weight well. It will give you bonkers top speeds despite having the five speed gearbox. Some oversteer on corner exit. And the curbs grab the front wheels too hard. I wish I knew how to find more time in this car.

As always, if you're morbidly curious about any of the tunes, feel free to ask.

Wow, that Audi time is insane! There are amazing creations among your army of time trial vehicles and your description have me the first laugh of the day. Thank you so much!