Audi A1; Official Release

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The fact that you haven't gotten how tongue in cheek I have been ever since post #60 tells me something, but I'm not sure what.
 
Sorry, I missed that tongue in cheek -thing totally. Or did I..? I guess I did. It may be just my lack of humour I guess. Or my bad English...:nervous:
 
I understand that, but everything this would compete with (premium sub-compact) has taught handling and wheels-to-the-corners design. This has what looks to be a foot and a half of front overhang. In any case, Audi wouldn't sell any of them here.

This car should compete with the mini handling wise because that is audi's aim.

From experience if you made a few suspension mods to a ibiza or polo it would leave mini cooper's well behind.

And the audi A1's chassis is going to be well more advanced than that of the ibiza and polo in the first place.

If its anything like the new audi TT or R8 it will be fun. Anyway this car is gonna be a quaranteed success. Audi should sell easily over 100k of these a year.
 
You mean this one?



Yeah, well, Audi at least made it look good...

Actually, I was thinking this, and the stupid pillars:



This car should compete with the mini handling wise because that is audi's aim.

From experience if you made a few suspension mods to a ibiza or polo it would leave mini cooper's well behind.

And the audi A1's chassis is going to be well more advanced than that of the ibiza and polo in the first place.

If its anything like the new audi TT or R8 it will be fun. Anyway this car is gonna be a quaranteed success. Audi should sell easily over 100k of these a year.

Uh, right. So because the A4 was Audi's aim at the E46, it was competitive with it handling-wise? Nope.

Give the Mini owner the same chance to modify their suspension and you'll be back to playing catch up.

If it's like those, yes, it could be. If it's just another VAG small-car platform, with the engine slung out clear in front of the wheels, and doesn't have the hit looks of the Mini, I really don't see how it'll out-sell it.
 
From experience if you made a few suspension mods to a ibiza or polo it would leave mini cooper's well behind.

Comparing a car with modified suspension to a car with stock suspension is dumb.

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Actually, I was thinking this, and the stupid pillars:
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When anything gets compared to a Saturn Ion nothing good can come from it.
 
This car should compete with the mini handling wise because that is audi's aim.
Just like with the S8, yes?

From experience if you made a few suspension mods to a ibiza or polo it would leave mini cooper's well behind.
If I made a few suspension mods to a anything it would leave Mini Coppers well behind. That doesn't mean anything.

And the audi A1's chassis is going to be well more advanced than that of the ibiza and polo in the first place.
Which will mean nothing if the car has terrible weight distribution.

Anyway this car is gonna be a quaranteed success.
Based on what? Audi's past successes in the segment? The car's great looks? The handling that we know nothing about, but can only assume?
 
Just like with the S8, yes?


If I made a few suspension mods to a anything it would leave Mini Coppers well behind. That doesn't mean anything.


Which will mean nothing if the car has terrible weight distribution.


Based on what? Audi's past successes in the segment? The car's great looks? The handling that we know nothing about, but can only assume?

Based on the fact that it has an audi badge. Just like how ugly BMW's sell because it has a BMW badge.
 
And yet, even the new BMWs were fraught with controversy when they were unveiled. As a result, Chris Bangle had to tone down the styling.

So, it only really sells if a later offering becmes less bold, or what seems to be evidenced by this, though I have to agree with you (to a degree) that the badge alone would help in selling it, and at such a cost.

Where did the grille come from? Is it that legendary that it has to be preserved even on the smaller cars in Audi's lineup? It appears to be rather spontaneous, looking at the preceding models.
 
Looks like America isn't getting the A1.

Autoblog
Audi A1 not bound for U.S. shores
Despite the burgeoning popularity of small cars, especially with premium nameplates, Audi doesn't think there's a case for bringing its MINI-sized A1 to the United States. Audi CEO Rupert Stadler acknowledges that American customers are increasingly interested in fuel efficiency, but also contends that we want that frugality wrapped in larger sheetmetal than customers elsewhere might go with. In the interest of greener numbers, Audi's planning on going electric, launching an armature-motivated car around 2010, roughly the same due date as a Volkswagen electron-mobile. No decision has yet been made about a plant in North America, but that might reduce costs enough for attractive pricing to facilitate Audi's target of selling 1.5 million annual units by 2015. Without the A1, we're going to be forced to continue drooling all over the Alfa MiTo's roundy-round front fenders.
 
I am and I am not at the same time. I don't understand why Audi wouldn't want to bring it here based on the demand for little cars in the states right now. It's the same reason why I don't understand why the VW part of VAG isn't bringing over the Polo. However, I understand that VAG probably doesn't make a whole lot off cars sold here because of the weak dollar compared to Euro's...I know BMW has said that's the reason MINI's aren't being shipped in great numbers here. I have to imagine Audi has the same reasoning.
 
Audi would have issues selling the A1 at a competitive price whilst still making a profit.

VW might send over the next gen polo, as if its the same like the ibiza should take a good couple hours less to make per vehicle thus reducing production costs.

The VW is boring though, no one who is in the market for a mini will generally go for a polo instead, except maybe for the GTI, but the polo GTI is laughable performance wise.
 
Phewie, people in this thread don't like change do they? I quite like the A1, it's something different. I liked the A2 too, which was also regarded as the best handling Audi by a fair bit by much of the press until stuff like the new RS4 et al started appearing.

From experience if you made a few suspension mods to a ibiza or polo it would leave mini cooper's well behind.

Here we go again with the SEATs. You're really going to put me off them you know... if you made suspension mods to a lot of vehicles it'd leave a Cooper behind, but then if you made mods to the Cooper the tables would be turned again. So that comment is pointless.

Because they no longer make cars like the A2 and instead cars such as the MK2 TT, Q7, A5 and R8.

Why single the A2 out? It was genuinely innovative and objectively wiped the floor with the Merc A-class against which it was designed to compete. The only real downside was it's high price, unless you don't like the styling. But styling is subjective, and I loved it.

Subjectively, the Q7 could be said to harm Audi's image more than the A2, as big SUVs are starting to fall out of favour whereas light and economical small cars are becoming more popular. I can see absolutely no evidence as to how the A2 was holding back Audi's image - it just happened to not be too successful due to an inflated price.
 
The VW is boring though, no one who is in the market for a mini will generally go for a polo instead, except maybe for the GTI, but the polo GTI is laughable performance wise.

Most of the Coopers in the US are being sold to people who could careless about the fun aspect of the car and more about the economical aspect of it. At least this is what my dealer told me, I have no way to actually prove this. We've had a big discussion on it over on NAM forum and we all agree. If VW brought the Polo over it would easily take sales away from MINI if they could stock them and price them right. A lot of people want Cooper's, they just don't want to wait 6-8 weeks to take delivery.

The A1 would probably take away sales from the Cooper S if they managed to keep it in stock. Really the VAG needs to bring some of their small cars to America.
 
Quite right. Technically speaking, VW is still "funky" in the US, but the problem (again) is that they're competing in an odd way with everyone else. Its absolutely no surprise with the A1 won't come here, it would have been an overpriced alternative to the MINI that likely would have ended up being worse. If we're going to start shoving these small cars off in the US, at least give us the "bread-and-butter" models like the VW Polo, FIAT 500 and GM Corsa.

The problem, at least in the US, is that Honda offers the Fit (which will be updated soon) and Ford will have the new Fiesta soon as well. Both being MINI-sized, offering somewhat similar performance in some models, and costing thousands less, they would likely tend to sell a bit better... And likely a better case as to why we'd get a VW-branded model in the first place.
 

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