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Hi alll

i was reading through all the threads [well most of them , god, one has 168 pages , like um.. yeah] . From the title , yes i do live in Australia, and unfortunately i don't have GT4 yet, but hey i think i can wait for a full english version rather than reading Japanese.

The main reason i made this thread was to talk about the Australian cars now involved in GT4 and how you Australians . i know we had ONE car in GT3 (The Tickford). but now we have a total of five. On that note if anyone has the game , do the cars drive like a dream.

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Though i haven't played GT4 yet i am really excited about it , but there is a few things i would have like in it anyway . ( and yes i do now there is a thread called GT5 and what you want , but as Australians i thought you may have different oppinions to other nations in the involvement of Australian cars and tracks)

ie - more Australian cars.... utes, more holdens and fords, atleast one aussie racing car and an elfin :sly:

Bathurst , every Australians dream, i know it was in V8 supercars 1 and 2 , but come on that was just **** , you jumped in places you can't even get air (and if you do get air its like 1 cm off the ground or 3 wheels , not a whole 2 foot flying through the air)

Ayways i cant' wait to play gT4 , i've got GT4P but people have said that it's totally different .


So you know what i'll be doing when GT4 comes to Australia,

*** TAKING ONE WEEK OFF WORK AND JUST PLAYING , GT4 WITH MY DFP ***
 
Just Bathurst I dont really care for the rest of Aussie tracks, but I would like tons of more Aussie cars.
 
Yup, Bathurst and Phillip Island for me...

A couple of HSV's and an HRT supercar would go down pretty well also.
 
Yeah the inclusion of bathurst would be great but (i'm gonna get flamed) I'd like the inclusion of more famous tracks around the world like Spa and Monza before bathurst is included. As great as bathurst is, IMO Spa is better (only by a micrometer :) )

As for more aussie cars. I really dont see why? I mean with the cars that are currently included, what more cars would need to be included to make it more balanced as it is already. I mean including HSV's is no point as they will more or less handle the same as the SS once appropriately tunes (lightly). What would be cool is if they included some cars from the past like the Fury Turbo Bluebird or an XY GTHO.

Phillip Island would have been a better inclusion than bathurst I think as it has AWESOME scenery and is a great track...
 
Good to see this type of tthread...

I am going to import the Jpn version I think. If it is going to take over a month to even get the US one, Jeez, Im think Mid March or Easter release for PAL.

I'm not to blown away by the tracks in Australia. Bathurst is an exception, a brilliant track. Especially coming down the mountain. But besides that, maybe a Grand canyon-esque rally track near Uluru/Ayers Rock would be sensational. What do you think?

But what I'd like to see more of are Australian Cars. They really could have done better in the Holden department. Im a ford fan, so getting the Typhoon and the GT-P, they nailed it. Well done FPV. But the CV8 and SS?? Hmmm, not bad, but you wouldn't have minded a GTS, or the HRT 427?? Cant really remember the name of it. Saw it at the Brissy/Melbourne Motor show a couple of times I think.
 
R8ado
But what I'd like to see more of are Australian Cars. They really could have done better in the Holden department. Im a ford fan, so getting the Typhoon and the GT-P, they nailed it. Well done FPV.
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I'm with you on that one, I think HSV/HRT's promo dept. have dropped the ball on this issue. I believe they put all their eggs in the awful V8Supercars 2 basket and it will be to their detriment.
I don't think that simply "modding" an SS will cut it as we won't know how accurate it will be in the PD scheme of things.

BTW, anyone seen any vid's of the CV8, SS etc yet?
 
Bathurst and Phillip island would be great, could you imagine reid park or McPhillamy in something like an R8 or a GT-ONE. Not to mention the chase at about 350kph.

More local cars would also obiviously be a plus, for example:

Tornado ute
HSV GTO 0-100 4.99sec.
HSV GTS
Elfin 300 kw
SBR Ford 04 (heard that Craig Lowndes CAT ford was going to be in GT4 but it looks like the old Tickford one made it (according to the offical list by The 359)).
Herrod XR8 (400kw with the supercharger)
6.2 litre Maloo ute (ultimate beaut ute)

Since there are now drag races how about some purpose built drag cars, Jack Daniels doorslammer etc.
 
Pharaoh
Bathurst and Phillip island would be great, could you imagine reid park or McPhillamy in something like an R8 or a GT-ONE. Not to mention the chase at about 350kph.

More local cars would also obiviously be a plus, for example:

Tornado ute
HSV GTO 0-100 4.99sec.
HSV GTS
Elfin 300 kw
SBR Ford 04 (heard that Craig Lowndes CAT ford was going to be in GT4 but it looks like the old Tickford one made it (according to the offical list by The 359)).
Herrod XR8 (400kw with the supercharger)
6.2 litre Maloo ute (ultimate beaut ute)

Since there are now drag races how about some purpose built drag cars, Jack Daniels doorslammer etc.
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you read my mine buddy - i think the cars (Aussie cars) that are in GT4 are good, but we do have more and better ones than the Holden SS anyway. As i think 'Brocky' said in another thread, "What about the GTS-R", or even the nations cup monaro ( even though you cant really say its a monaro, but hey i think i would have like to drive that against the GT-one and the R8
 
Did Holden always use engines / transmissions from GM? Was there a period of time when they were with another car company? :confused:

EDIT: 1931 - GM purchases HMBB for just £1 111 600. GM (Aust) and HMBB merge to form General Motors Holden's Limited (GM-H) with Sir Edward Holden as its first chairman.

Never mind... I found the answer... 💡
 
Imprezed
Wouldnt mind seeing a GTR (Godzilla) vs the V8 supercars around Bathurst. Bring back some old memories. :dopey:
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Yeah, the GTR's would get banned again for winning :)
In the magazine SPEED ( issue 16) it was mentioned in one article that a few JGTC V8 Supras were brought to Australia and were 10 seconds quicker per lap than the V8 supercars at Phillip Island.
 
MrktMkr1986
Did Holden always use engines / transmissions from GM? Was there a period of time when they were with another car company? :confused:

EDIT: 1931 - GM purchases HMBB for just £1 111 600. GM (Aust) and HMBB merge to form General Motors Holden's Limited (GM-H) with Sir Edward Holden as its first chairman.

Never mind... I found the answer... 💡
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In the late 80's Holden used Nissan RB30 6 cylinder turbo and non-turbo engines in the Holden VL commodore,the turbo version of which was used by our police forces down here :)

The motors are tough as nails and they were very popular and still are to some extent due to the awesome tuning ability,also the RB26DETT fits nicely in the engine bay :D
 
Imprezed
Wouldnt mind seeing a GTR (Godzilla) vs the V8 supercars around Bathurst. Bring back some old memories. :dopey:
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A bit of nonsense really. One is a converted taxi and the other was a purpose built racing car for the road, homologated to take advantage of a liberal set of rules.

A more apt comparison would have been the GTR vs the stillborn HRT427 methinks...

Edit: Crap spelling
 
winnah
In the late 80's Holden used Nissan RB30 6 cylinder turbo and non-turbo engines in the Holden VL commodore,the turbo version of which was used by our police forces down here :)

The motors are tough as nails and they were very popular and still are to some extent due to the awesome tuning ability,also the RB26DETT fits nicely in the engine bay :D
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Thanks for the info! :)
 
Akina Racer
Yeah, the GTR's would get banned again for winning :)
In the magazine SPEED ( issue 16) it was mentioned in one article that a few JGTC V8 Supras were brought to Australia and were 10 seconds quicker per lap than the V8 supercars at Phillip Island.
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still, It's not hard to beat a taxi is it.
 
wtf! I think quite a few people have lost the plot.

First of all, its true the Aussie cars such as the XR6 Turbo and XR8's and SS's arent that special in the overall scheme of things, they are bloody good cars for the $ they ask. Beats the pants of the Euro/American cars for value for money.

Tell me what other car has a v8 motor pumping out 400hp with a leather interior from anywhere in the world that you can buy for 80k (AUD). I cant think of any! Infact, you cant even get a second hand M5 (E39) for 80k (AUD) in Australia.

And as for the JGTC vs V8 supercars, yes the JGTC can beat the v8Supercar pretty comprehensively but you'd expect it to when a JGTC is so packed with carbon fiber and pushrod suspension etc etc which will end up costing a whole lot more than a v8 supercar. It boils down to a JGTC car being ligher than a v8Supercar with about the same HP (if not, a tad more) than a v8 supercar thanks to all the race technology. And if you take into account the cost of running a v8supercar compared to a JGTC, I'll bet the Japanese one costs heaps more. So you cant really say one is better than the other.

And before anyone says otherwise, I much prefer a GT-R or an Evo to a XR8 or SS.

winnah, yep. The RB30ET is one tuff motor. Theres a Yellow VL running in the 10's (10.08 I think it was) with an internally stock motor! The fastest RB30 (in a 300ZX) in the country is a 7.92. All from a single cam motor.
 
Akina Racer
I guess the R32 GTR was ahead of its time then.
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Not ahead of it's time, not any more than the Mk 1 Cortinas, Mini's, XY GT's, 350 Monaros, Ford Sierra's and Group C Commodores were in their time. As mentioned previously, they were built for a purpose and did their job too well making the "entertainment" factor much less so for most motorsport fans in Oz.

Some may argue that having only two makes in the current Supercar series is as boring, however that's what the public want so thats what they get. The fastest car is not always the best for the sport.
 
XPLOSV
wtf! I think quite a few people have lost the plot.

First of all, its true the Aussie cars such as the XR6 Turbo and XR8's and SS's arent that special in the overall scheme of things, they are bloody good cars for the $ they ask. Beats the pants of the Euro/American cars for value for money.
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Finally a bit of sense, what you say is quite true. Additionally, I would like to see how well some imports would travel after a couple of hundred thousand Km's in some of the harsh roads in the bush... or for that matter, the availability of spares etc. if one were to breakdown out there... or for that matter how some would perform on some sub-standard fuel you get in some of the more remote areas of Oz. It's all horses for courses.
 
XPLOSV
It boils down to a JGTC car being ligher than a v8Supercar with about the same HP (if not, a tad more)
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The JGTC GT500 cars are limited to 500ps, the V8 Supercars have abit over 600hp dont they?
 
maxter
Finally a bit of sense, what you say is quite true. Additionally, I would like to see how well some imports would travel after a couple of hundred thousand Km's in some of the harsh roads in the bush... or for that matter, the availability of spares etc. if one were to breakdown out there... or for that matter how some would perform on some sub-standard fuel you get in some of the more remote areas of Oz. It's all horses for courses.
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Yes, grey Imports like Skylines etc were designed for Japanese conditions, you cant expect a Import like that hold up aswell in Australias conditions against cars that were made and designed for Australia.
 
VIPERGTSR01
The JGTC GT500 cars are limited to 500ps, the V8 Supercars have abit over 600hp dont they?
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While they are limited to 500hp, they are only limited via an air restrictor. I'm guessing that even with the restrictor, they are producing more which is legal. I was reading an interview with James Courtney (I think he was the one) and he said their TOMS car (I think that was the one) made 600ish hp.
v8supercars produce around the 620-630 hp mark.
 
Yes but while they race (In JGTC) they must have that restriction, when they compared one of the JGTC cars to the V8 Supercars they may have removed it, but yes you can see the JGTC cars are of a higher tune overall than the V8 Supercars.
 
Yep, that could be true but I'm not sure the nature of this JGTC test.
Did they bring a JGTC car over for some reason? Couldnt have been just for a comparison with a v8 Supercar.
 
JGTC cars also have less weight, and as far as mid corner speed and braking is concerned there is no substitute for less weight. Yes, centre of gravity and aerodynamics play a large part, however, less weight is always an advantage.
 

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